This is a thread to discuss the terms and usages of a concept that none of us even agree on: "permanent" chastity. I'm in permanent chastity. Except when I'm not. In my situation, I'm locked all the time. Except for medical visits, travel where I'm likely to pass through metal detectors, cleaning/hygiene, and longish road cycling jaunts. I'm also denied orgasm. Except for an occasional involuntary ruined one in my cage, or when Mrs Edge decides it would be fun to make me come in the cage. So... is this permanent? We have members here who declare that they are in permanent chastity, but they have various times that they are actually locked into a device. We have members who have various degrees of orgasm denial. We have members who are essentially sealed into a device which can only be opened with tools. We also have members who are released fairly often (fsv of often) for teasing, or even orgasms. Can all of these members be in permanent chastity? I think that I can answer this: Yes. But here's the caveat: The conception of permanent, that is, the common understanding or connotation that comes to mind when we use the term, refers to a length of time. Permanent is forever, or at the least, an indefinite period of time. That is, when some says "I'm in permanent chastity," what they essentially mean is that they are in a condition (a condition that is not yet described in terms of being locked or denied) for a period of time that they expect to stretch out indefinitely. "Indefinitely" is a word used here to mean "not defined by a length of time." This is why expressions such as "I'm in permanent chastity until the end of the month" sound so ridiculous: the concept is oxymoronic. It is my contention that when we use the word "permanent" to describe anything other than an indefinite length of time involved, it's confusing for some of the readers (and as you can see, annoying to others). While it's tempting to try to avoid using the word, the problem is that the idea of "permanent chastity" is kind of hot. We don't want to stop using it because there really is not another expression that conveys the weight or immensity of doing something for really, really long periods of time. This is why our attempts at using words like "sealed" (a favorite of @Giles_English ), "lifestyle," "persistent," "serious," etc., never really catch on: they do not convey the gut-wrenching, heart-stopping, cold sweat of facing down something like this for years, or possibly even until you're dead. Anyway, I'm not going to suggest that we stop using it. But maybe it would be nice if we could stop using it in an oxymoronic way. Thoughts?