Ways To Get Women More Involved in This?

I have been reading this thread with interest.

I can only offer a couple things. A true alpha male is more concerned with the happiness and welfare of his loved ones than with anything else. If that means he is caged and puts on a pair of panties and a bra because his Wife/Domme/ KH says so, then so be it. It makes him no less to do that. On the contrary, it reaffirms his status as an alpha. Because he has no fear to do those things nor to admit doing them.

Part of getting more Women interested and participating refers directly to the above. Nature causes women to search out the alpha type. And societal mores have twisted that a bit to the point where a loving/caring male who does for instead of doing to is no longer considered an alpha. Communicating this through the written or spoken word like a blog instead of goofy captions would be key. Women are smart, I feel that all the captions are more oriented to males. We are a more visual beast anyway. Give the women some brain food in the form of communication without the tawdry pictures and captions.

Or sit down with your partner/KH and talk. Dont demand, dont manipulate, dont, as they say,top from the bottom. Explain where you are and where you would like to be. If you believe in FLR that is all you will do initially. After all, FLR means the decisions are hers, not yours. After you give the information, let her decide.

As a last bit; I am as much an alpha as anyone here. I am also very proud to be permanently collared and caged by the one person here who knows just how alpha i am. If she says panties and bra, well, panties and bra it is, and i do it proudly. The collar i wear 24/7 is seen and noticed and has never caused a loss of alphaness.

Communicate with the ladies their way, you may become pleasantly surprised.

 

This was beautifully put.

 

Turned on by turning someone else on. Great description BTW. I once went to a party about 30 yeats ago in drag (plastic bin liner theme) I owned it! And pulled that night.

 

i am not a sissy i am a tgirl and i dont mind sissys cos i think they nice and dont shout and moan a lot like some men on here dose and it a pity i think that the sissymen get moan at a lot. i think there a lot of piccys now in the forums with Ladys with not many clothes on and sometime with men that got none on and all writing on them and theres more and more come on and some Ladys if they seen all them wud not like it i think. there wern lots and lots of piccys on here in the forums once cos they was all in the gallrey.

 

This thread has diverted widely off-topic.

This thread is not about how to get a singular female to be interested in chastity and FLRs.

This was about converting a mass of women so one partially submissive (if it’s exactly within his confines of submission) individual can actually find a partner…

 

Speaking only for my own relationship, my wife does NOT want (and would probably be repulsed by):

* Any femininity on my part
* Any cross-dressing on my part
* Any "submissiveness" on my part
* Me as a door mat for her to walk all over
* Anything to do with pegging and anal play with me
* Anything to do with cuckolding

All she wants is:

* A husband who loves, respects, listens to, appreciates, and protects her
* Me to do whatever she wants, whenever she wants it, without question
* Me to be desiring her sexually, and ready to go, whenever she happens to feel like she wants to be desired sexually
* Me to not mention sex or wanting sex or pressuring her for sex at any other time
* Me to take care of all the things that she doesn't want to think about

Obviously, I have to submit to her to make her happy. She just doesn't want a submissive husband

 

Excellent! I think you got it all. You are very good at taking dictation. My wife will be pleased!

 

I see the second a woman shows up here she gets dog piled on by so many people it runs her off...I would say a way would be to stop dog piling on the women as soon as they march in the door..if they wanna talk to you they will

 

This is a very useful description of that dynamic and I find it enlightening.

My problem is that pictures, captions, stories do not express that. I think the captions and illustrations are the worst "marketing" possible. Like anything, if you want to attract newcomers you've got to speak on their level. If I only discussed economic theory using PhD terms, no one besides another PhD would want to talk to me about it.

The images we use and way we talk about chastity are inaccessible to most women. If we want more women to find it appealing, we've got to find ways to talk about it at level 1, not 10.

 

Exactly that

 

This thread. Good lord.

Nothing about this kink is "alpha."

The alpha male isn't bending over backwards to win approval in the hopes of getting sex as a reward.

Obviously I'm not saying this kink makes you a bad person or inferior. I'm into it. But it's basically the opposite of how an alpha male behaves.

The whole "women like jerks" thing is an over simplification, but it's based on something. There's a power dynamic between two people. If she wants him more than he wants her, that's reflected in their behavior. He's not chasing her because he's confident he can get another woman. Maybe even a better one. So he's perfectly comfortable being playful or borderline rude. It's not that women want you to be a jerk, they don't like it, but being a jerk says something about how he views their relative status and on some primal level that appeals to some women.

Chastity is the literal opposite.

There are no other women possible.

We're trying to please the one we have.

One of the stated benefits for women is how much nicer we are.

There's a reason most of us are married and older. This kink/game isn't for the 20 year old coeds who might still be impressed by the cocky guy. It's for the women who have aged out of that and value stability and companionship.

Nothing about this is alpha. And that's OK.

 

Define for me "alpha" also please define how an "alpha" behaves.

 

I don't really feel like going over the extreme generalizations you just spewed out in one post. But it is well known that very often people who are the "go getters" in society are submissive in the bedroom. That doesn't make them less "alpha" as you would call it...

 

The "alpha" theory is the same as flat-earth or that vaccines cause autism. It has been thoroughly debunked.

I don't know why the false theory persists. There's cultural and sociological phenomena, sure. But there's nothing primal about it.

 

Agreed!

Others, as have I, have asked what an alpha male is based on conflicting opinions on this site that have led to some heated exchanges. Here are the dictionary definitions:

noun

• a male animal having the highest rank in a dominance hierarchy:

"Studies show that in spite of their high rank, access to females, etc., baboon alpha males experience a great deal of stress."​

• the most dominant, powerful, or assertive man in a particular group:

"the alpha male of investment bankers."​

When I look up the definition of a beta male, I think you are starting to come close to that although you're description doesn't imply being passive or fully subservient. It sounds somewhere in between.

 

Many of us are Alpha to all outsiders except our mate, who gives us a vacation from our work life and the rest of the outside world whenever we’re alone.

 

Yes, I think there are two main problems with most pictures/captions. One, the extreme fantasies are vastly over-represented because - being fantasies - they're less likely for any particular horney guy to experience in real life, so experiencing them through pictures is the only outlet. I kiss my wife and tell her how lucky I am to have her to play games with all the time, so I don't need a visual outlet for that.

Two, the pictures are always a moment in time, and the context remains in the poster's imagination and isn't conveyed by the picture itself. So a woman using a naked man as a bench to sit on in my imagination is something that happens once in a while as part of play time, but the picture frozen in time implies that's the totality of the relationship. I don't want to be nothing but a piece of furniture to my wife (and she doesn't want that either) but I do want her to occasionally order me onto all fours so she has a place to sit and put on her shoes. Because we love each other, because I know her kind and sweet nature, and she knows my willpower and strength, I can trust her with the power. But it's hard for a single picture to really convey all that.