The Permanent Chastity/Denial Matrix

I agree with @Tom Allen , the main goal of the Matrix is an easy indicator to share "where you are at the spectrum". This helps to find "equal fellows" or just "opposite friends". The Matrix may work easily without a lot of thinking and/or discussion with your Queen or KH first (although some of us did). By the way, are we sure that all our Queens and KH's agree with our given C and D rates here?

However, I can also see @lockedforfun point and yes, also that elaboration helps a lot. However, I see the later more to facilitate an in depth discussion with fellows about the subject. Even at mid-day, I boggled my mind about this how to present this in an easy and "unified interpretable Excel model". So, with one main parameter (no. of O's average a year), two leading variables (R and C) and six "kinky indicators", there might be no other way to think about a Multi-dimensional graph…..

By the way I am at 12-R35-C0-E-P-V (measured by keeping 10 months statistics).

@cshorts, you will be included in the next update.

 

And would you have put your mind to creating such a metric if you were not caged?

 

The Matrix is a great indicator that shows where we are in the spectrum as elias has mentioned,but lockedforfun's new scale gives us additional insight on the details on how each of us actually achieves the scoring within the Matrix!!
I find it most interesting!
My formula would be 9- MC67-E-K

 

As one of the few in that lower right corner... well, it's not bad. I'm locked most of the time (last week, for instance, I count 7 hours uncaged, all of it divided between two long bike rides, which is about average, I'd say), and my wife and I both like to keep me locked. She'll make sure I'm re-locked after my ride, for instance. Perhaps on the 'C' axis, that's not all that unusual?

On the denial, though, my wife likes PIV, and so do I, so that works well. Masturbation is denied, but we have sex when we want to; the cage doesn't change that. (Kids, work, life, and so on are the real deciding factors.) When we want to take a romp in the sack, we just take the cage off, and since I haven't been jerking off I'm generally much more ready and willing than I was before wearing the cage. Denial or such is usually more of a playful thing because I'm 'not ready' for her, or she just wants oral, or some other rare event.

So, that's the life in the lower right... it's not so bad, come on down. (Oh, wait, phrasing...

 

For me, also in the lower right, it's different certainly. With no KH and a wife who doesn't want or like sex it's very much being left to my own devices.

She doesn't know that i am caged and cares even less about my sexual wants. When i O it's caged at the moment. Rubbing, hard to explain. So, 15 times since starting on 2 Feb.

It's quite depressing, and i use that term advisedly, that no one has noticed that i have been caged, or that i am now wearing underwear designed for women. But, what do i expect? The suspicion was that i wasn't really important to anyone romantically or sexually, and this has rather proved that.

Being diagnosed ASD and approaching my 40s very soon, coupled with being incredibly boring and difficult to live with will do that. So, for me at least, the cage is an attempt to pretend like it all matters.

 

Thanks to our esteemed group, I now use the app called "HabitBull" and I have been tracking for a while now my locked time vs orgasm time.

Turns out my "4/9" was a very apt description! My locked time this past month has been 46% and my orgasms have been 4% (1 day out of 30) So officially a "4.6" and a "9.6".......

I love data and information.

Laz

 

Count me in on that group!

asa

 

Starting Locktober with a much better cage that might be the cage? I might try going for an 8 in cages going forward. My ideal would be 10.

for denial? Probably a 7 when that happens. Though I might be tempted to allow orgasm from anal stimulation only.

 

that sounds amazing lucky you

 

Our new journey puts me at 9,9 on the Rectrix/Tom Allen scale.

@Artemistress has told me that my penis is irrelevant to her for sexual purposes, and that "I've had enough orgasms for one lifetime". So I'm caged at all times except for cleaning or other practical (non-sexual) reasons, and I'm not to expect a full orgasm again. I'm not a 10 on denial because milkings and ruined orgasms haven't been ruled out, though they haven't happened as of yet.

I like Rectrix's refinements to the top end of the scale, as they take into account intent. There's a big difference between removing the cage for cleaning or "practical reasons" and removing the cage to play. Keeping a clean cage and an uninjured package is important to facilitate lockups that approach permanent. But like with all things, most of us will see diminishing returns as you approach Caged 10, unless you happen to have found a device that works perfectly for you.

 

Simple and wonderful.

 

Thanks for the link to your blog Tom. Nice post. You are right, the subjective word of "permanent" is not really relevant.

I think the matrix is so well done, that LUCY may wish to arrange the site in some way that we men put our subjective ranking on our profiles or something. It would be interesting to me to know I was talking to a 5/5 or an 8/9.

I remain OBJECTIVELY.....a 4/9. (Thanks to rather meticulous record keeping using HabitBull.)

 

I think really that if a man that make a mess a lot is lockk up in a cage for ages and ages then he is really the very very brave one to do it cos he must miss make a mess more than anybody. i am lock up a lot but it dont matter cos i dont make a mess no more.

 

I would be a 7/3 on all the time but allowed out and orgasms frequently, occasionally ruined

 

Well if I have understood this right and basing my 'score' on my personal situation
so facts only and no rambling re reasons or justifications

In 3 years and 7 months my Lady has not let me cum. she won't describe my situation a s permanent but it sure looks that way to me so for denied I'm a 10 on the y-axis

I am allowed out of the cage for all aspects of maintenance about 4 times a year and of course I'm allowed out for medical appointments if my trousers are comming off. Which is why we don't have her device permanently locked on. So I assume that's a 9 on the x-axis


Which makes me a 9,10

Whilst I'll admit guys do like their stats I do think it is more an American thing than a Brit thing and as for Europe I don't know enough about them to know what they like.

 

It is a really useful scale, and since it appeared has made for clearer discussions.

However, it describes the result, but doesn't quite capture the psychological dimension around the variety of possible arrangements.

For example, we'll all remember @Minas bitch's glorious titanium device with PA hook that he had to drill his way out of using high-spec power tools after, I think 6 months. I myself did 11 months sealed in using a polymorph plastic rivet.

My adventure turned out to be longer than his, his was more extreme out of the gate. However, what we had in common was that neither of us knew upfront where we were going to be on the Allen Scale. Also, though I was fairly certain that device would be removed for travel or doctor's examination, there wasn't much prospect of this happening.

Our experiences would have been different had there been keys involved, or if we had been self locking, or if our dominants had specified a sentence.

I don't think a 3rd axis can capture this. However, perhaps like Command Lines, we could add some flags and parameters (square brackets indicates optional)

"I'm a Tom Allen C - D, [Self Locked] [Using Keyholder Service] [Limitless], [Pierced], [with [{Light|Heavy}] [{Cheap|Costly}]Seal]."

• C - D: Ratings on the Allen Chastity Denial Matrix, e.g. 5 - 6.
• Self Locked: When the wearer doesn't have a person in charge of their lockup.
• Using Keyholder Service: Self explanatory.
  
• Limitless: When there is no set limit to the lockup, subject to the C part of the Allen Matrix, e.g. you can be Limitless but subject to being an "8" and expecting to unlock for a medical examination.
• Pierced: For when a piercing secures the device.
• [{Light|Heavy}] [{Cheap|Costly}] Seal: For when there is no key for the device.
  • Light Seal: Device is merely escape evident.
  • Seal: Craft tools and care are required to escape.
  • Heavy Seal: Serious power tools and great care are required to escape.
    
  • Cheap: Breaking the seal is cheap in terms of money or labour.
  • Costly: Breaking the seal is costly in terms of money or labour.

Note that the flags are only used when things deviate from the default assumption, so there is no Medium Moderately Expensive Seal, that's just Sealed.

So, Minas bitch would be a 10-10, Limitless, Pierced, with a Heavy Costly Seal.
My adventure with a polymorph plastic rivet would be an "8-10, Limitless, with a Cheap Seal."
The fellow on Xtube gluing his device would be "10-10 Limitless, Self Locking with Serious Expensive Seal" since getting out will require destroying the device.

What do you think?

 

Not intended as a criticism of your scale so much as an extension or incorporation of it.

 

I don’t know how long wait to move my marker up the caged line from 6. It is clear I am now and should safely expect to be live on the 7 point on the caged axis.

That said, I have worn my cage during travel and a doctor has seen it. So 9 isn’t out of the question. It’s a matter of what my keyholding wife wants.

On denial, the vast majority of my ejaculations are slow twitchless ruined orgasms now.
7: Rarely allowed orgasm, although possible ruins/milkings allowed.

I think it’s fair to put me on the 7,7 position now.

 

In the last few months I've gone from and 8,6 to an 8,7.

No doctor has seen it yet....

 

I'm only 2 months in to the experience. We will see where it leads in the future. Likes futures I expect shares to rise and fall.