Pulling out of cage

This might be a shock to you but controlling one's self is a very different feeling than being controlled by someone else. Some people want actual bondage not just the idea of wearing a device as a symbol. If I'm able to pull out of my cage and jerk off at a whim, it does absolutely nothing for me, because it's not bondage.

Sorry if this stings a bit but you either haven't experienced this or you didn't understand it when you did. It's honestly just annoying to read you, among others, invalidate the experiences of some of us with, "no chastity is truly inescapable." Honestly, fuck off. Some of us go to extreme lengths for our kinks; be respectful of that.

 

Edit: words.

Also:

You should re-read my post, because you obviously didn't understand it.

FURTHER
No one cares what YOU need. Stop invalidating others who need something else.

 

Okay, how about this? Go get your dick pierced, spend an entire month of your earnings on a cage, have someone mercilessly deny you any sort of release, and then report back about the inescapability of all cages. Sounds like a good idea?

 

As some else mentioned with enough lube and/or cold water, I could probably pull out of my iron maiden, not that I’m going to try! but I would never be able to get back in!

 

Being Locked is a crazy turn-on for me and enforced chastity must be the most extreme form of 24/7 bondage I can imagine, so I really get that the device must the most secure possible and my quest to that end has been exhaustive.

It has nothing to do with my agreement with my wife but rather the two fold issues are; that I know when I am not locked I will eventually fail and break the agreement - it has happened too many times; and two it is a lot of effort, commitment and compromise to wear a properly secure device - so it best be the most secure, inescapable and effective I can get.

After many cages; all that I could all pull out of (only a pa stopped that) and all allow a vibrator stimulated climax (albeit not very successful - problem is it still causes the low) I can say only a full steel belt with a pa securing pin solved my quest for security.

The BBCS with a rear wire and pa securing system is the ONLY really secure device I have found (strong enough to wear 24/7 and comfortable enough for us to have been able to use it full time for 19 months) and I can say we have tried MANY different devices to eventually get there. Yes it can be broken and so in effect can be defeated but that is soooo much effort and before you actually manage to destroy it you would come to your senses and stop.

I feel a device is mainly a deterrent to stop doing something stupid - but even having said that - if its not the most secure possible how is it going to give you the "bondage high coupled to the denial high" which for me is a really serious and amazing state of mind!

 

I could probably pull out if I tried enough, getting back in would be an issue. Plus there’s this part….if I did cheat, my Wife would hand me the keys and say we’re done living this way now.
I will add this tidbit too, get pierced, do whatever you want to lock it away, then bust out a wand and vibrate your cage till you cum, or if you get some special cage that you can’t vibrate, shove a vibrating prostate massager in your bum until you cum.
Basically if you want to cheat and get off, maybe chastity isn’t your thing?
But whatever, do what’s right for you and your KH, or don’t

 

Here's the thing though, you have no idea what it's actually like because you've never experienced it. You're just typing on a keyboard about things you don't actually have experience with and in the process telling others who have made sacrifices to experience those things that they did so in vain.

This is the equivalent of you telling and oil-rigger how to do their job and that it's not that hard when you've never worked on a oil rig once in your life.

 

And, for the record, I HAVE cut myself out of one of these cages and I can confirm that even a plastic version is WAY more daunting of a task than you think it is.

 

You just confirmed everything I stated in the post you replied to. Good job.

 

If I didn't have the key, no. I can't, not at least without hours or days of work and the destruction of an entire mortgage payment.

Good fucking luck getting my PA-lock off. Seriously, see above.

Almost. Again, you lack experience.

Now you're reaching well beyond enforced chastity. I hate to break this to you but not everyone here is straight and afraid of their anus. I'm gay and I love having my prostate destroyed by a horny man with a hard dick. That doesn't mean I get to orgasm. These two things are completely separate.

This is where you -completely- miss the point.
For some people (maybe not you, and that's great) bondage/chastity has nothing to do with self control; it's everything to do with power exchange and/or someone else's control. This is where you're proving yourself to be completely oblivious to the reality of actually wearing a cock cage. You think it's about self control. This is not why these things have locks and keys; no, these devices were invented and produce for enforcing a power exchange between partners.

Yes, there's a lot of people here who think it's about self control but, to that point wearing a cage at all is just wank-fodder.

To wrap this up, yes, I understand this might invalidate a few people here on this forum, that think will power and commitment to their spouse are the key points of chastity and, in turn, getting their rocks off, great, you do you and I'm sorry. The reality is that anything that's locked onto your body for any reason is a power exchange and if it can't be excepted as such then it's not and it just becomes wank-fodder.

 

I am very sorry that I need an expensive titanium cage with a PA, that I cannot pull out from, in order to enjoy chastity. I can understand that you think that it is wrong, and I should live my life the way you feel is the right way.

I am now very insecure about other things that turns me on, I do not know if these are right or wrong. Could you please provide a list of what should turn me on, I really want to live my own life the way you think is the right way.

(Sarcasm may occur in this post)

 

I totally understand that you have great self control but people come in all sorts. Some have actually reached this lifestyle because they can’t stop master baiting. For some it is a real life struggle. For some it’s an addiction. Almost like a drug. For me I didn’t realize pull out was an actual thing until reading in a thread somewhere. Then I tried it and found I could which totally messed things up for me on the mental aspects of it. I wasn’t truly locked up. This for my Queen was also a mind fuck. We talked about it and I threw the idea of a piercing into the conversation. We together decided it was a good idea. I received an apadravya. I don’t have a custom cage for it yet but the one I have I cannot get to the bottom ball of the piercing if I tried… so I can’t pull out once locked either. For us it was a permanent fix for the domination, kink, and ownership aspect of it. It had nothing to do with me hiding in the closet ripping a cheap orgasm out. When you talk about all devices being able to be removed no matter what… well duh, but who is going to take a grinder or saw to there cage every time they wanna jerk off? I would guess if someone had it would be because a cage malfunction or they were done with chastity. Be honest… you’ve never wanked that fucker when pulling out? If you say never I call bullshit! We are all human and we all make mistakes. Everyone has also broken a promise…

 

My wife has less interest in my self control with regard to chastity than she has interest in using leather restraints without locks. Zero in either case.

 

Amen to that!

 

I have a lot of self control. We are now separated for about 2 months, and i can very easily pull out and jerk off. But i won’t. No way.
And still its a huge turn on for me not being able to pull out.
So for me, looking for a cage that would be far more difficult to escape than a simple ball trap device (and spending money on it) goes side by side with self control…

 

I can only speak for myself. I wouldn't masturbate if I was not locked It leaves me cold and unsatisfied. For me a device is there to physical make it impossible (or as close as it can). I want that feeling that it’s not my choice, I am owned by another. I want to be going out of my mind with frustration and at the mercy of my Key holder, but it’s her choice if I get relief.

 

I completely agree, and have said this multiple times, but this does keep coming up again and again.

I don't pull out the back for cleaning, I have a hidden bathroom key that is only used for cleaning. The one on her nightstand is for play. I respect the significance of both, and keep a consistent narrative in my head of... "Pulling out is cheating". When we started out I'd have to grab the key from her handbag, and ask. It got too much like micromanagement for her. Trust is much more important..... and convenience.