Covid-19 and Life

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    I forget the context, but yes, fiction writers were used to come up with difference scenarios. I believe it was in relation to national security. Quick search found this:

    How Science Fiction Writers Can Help, or Hurt, Homeland Security

    A couple of years ago, the Department of Homeland Security hired a bunch of science fiction writers to come in for a day and think of ways terrorists could attack America. If our inability to prevent 9/11 marked a failure of imagination, as some said at the time, then who better than science fiction writers […]​
     
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    And to think when I was in college that EVERY WORD of a Lancet study could be quoted and believed without question nor hesitation. Now it’s a politically driven rag.
     
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    Believe nothing!

    I find things of interest, and may write about them, but I don't claim to know anything.

    Now, if you don't believe the main narrative, you are a conspiracy theorist. The Democratic Party is now part of the "official narrative," and they drag the Republican Party and everyone else about by their nether regions, and I'm guessing many of them now know it; in Congress and the Senate. Hence the recent $1.7 trillion spending bill. (Or they know they are racing toward a cliff without brakes, and are pressing the pedal to the floor to see how far they can fly before they crash to the ground.)

    My neighbor gets their news about Ukraine from Russian websites, and since the information IS NOT from US sources they believe it must be true. Since it is also anti American, they believe it even more.

    Every news source and blog post is potentially the product of a government operation, any and all governments. Also, PR firms create information for their corporate clients. You can be sure there are numerous PR firms creating information on Covid related products and services. Some are employed by the government, as many of you know. Every narrative is potentially (likely) false, to some degree.


    Fighting the ‘Psyopcracy’

    It is a hard thing to combat because it’s not a physical enemy but rather messages that lodge themselves in millions of people’s minds. And it has come to rule over us.
     
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    CHAIRMAN XI: UNLEASH THE INFECTION BOTS!
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    Milan Sees 50% Of Arrivals Infected With Chinese Coronavirus
    Italian health authorities will begin testing all arriving bots from China for Coronavirus after almost half of the passengers on two flights to Milan were found to have the virus.

    Additionally, in Germany, health authorities are “closely watching” the situation in China, according to Health Ministry spokesman Sebastian Guelde.

    Any of this sound familiar?


    See:
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-28/milan-reports-50-of-passengers-in-flights-from-china-have-covid?sref=ZMFHsM5Z
     
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    RISE OF CHI COM OFFICIALS DYING OF CORONAVIRUS


    Chi Com leaders believe in organ transplants to fix health care issues. Organ transplants require anti-rejection drugs. Anti-rejection drugs suppress your immune system (so organs aren’t rejected). If your immune system is suppressed .... well .... Coronavirus is like the Black Plague! Starting to make sense?
     
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    https://news.yahoo.com/fauci-argued-benefits-gain-function-185934217.html
     
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    Jonathan Turley: When the FBI Attacks Critics as “Conspiracy Theorists,” It’s Time to Reform the Bureau

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    Criticizing the FBI is now ‘disinformation’

    Responding to the disclosures and criticism, an FBI spokesperson declared: “The men and women of the FBI work every day to protect the American public. It is unfortunate that conspiracy theorists and others are feeding the American public misinformation with the sole purpose of attempting to discredit the agency.”

    Arguably, “working every day to protect the American public” need not include censoring the public to protect it from errant or misleading ideas.

    However, it is the attack on its critics that is most striking. While the FBI denounced critics of an earlier era as communists and “fellow travelers,” it now uses the same attack narrative to label its critics as “conspiracy theorists.”

    After Watergate, there was bipartisan support for reforming the FBI and intelligence agencies. Today, that cacophony of voices has been replaced by crickets, as much of the media imposes another effective blackout on coverage of the Twitter Files. This media silence suggests that the FBI found the “sweet spot” on censorship, supporting the views of the political and media establishment.

    As for the rest of us, the FBI now declares us to be part of a disinformation danger which it is committed to stamping out — “conspiracy theorists” misleading the public simply by criticizing the bureau.​
     
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    I saw this and thought "Isn't this racist". Then the follow up was "Oh yea it's not, that was only for the previous administration". It's not racist if your'e the one doing it. SMH.
     
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    Wasn't it J. Edgar Hoover's FBI that investigated political enemies? Oh wait, has that been revised and removed from history?

    It seems history just repeats itself. But then again is it any wonder that those on the far left work hard to erase history so we won't learn from it.
     
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    Exactly. Under the Trump admin blocking visitors was horrible racism. Now under FJB, it’s for “the greater good”
     
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    I try not to be political on kink sites. But damn the far left makes it hard. I have many issues with the far right too. But being attacked because I don't agree with EVERYTHING they demand is rough.

    I also hate being attacked because I'm mostly libertarian in view (not politically), in other words I don't care what others do as long as they don't bother me or others.
     
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    I'm reading a book about Martin Luther King Jr. now, which mentions J. Edgar Hoover, and the antics of him and other Washington elites, and associates of M.L. King. It seems regardless of the age, the more elite you are, the more sex and sex parties you have. (Don't know the facts, but things are implied and suggested.) The amount of hypocrisy is mind boggling. Definitely, "Do as I say, not as I do."
     
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    Please keep in mind everything we read may be propaganda produced by some government, or media organization! Humans love to be afraid, and click on fear more than anything. Fear Sells!!!


    From ZeroHeadge: US To Require Negative COVID Tests After "Extremely Irresponsible" China Reopens Borders

    ...

    It also removed the cap on the number of international flights to and from China.


    Crucially for the rest of the world, as The Epoch Times reports, data from travel sites show that Chinese residents are rushing to book overseas trips.

    Chinese travel platform Tongcheng Travel released data on Dec. 27, showing that the number of searches for visas to go abroad increased by 10 times, and the search volume of international air tickets soared by 850 percent.

    Japan, Thailand, South Korea, the United States, Singapore, Malaysia, Australia, and the UK were among the most searched destinations.

    History use to repeat itself every 50 years, now it is every 3 years!
     
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    Since animals can get this virus, too, it may barely slow transmission.
    Look, here are a few cynical realities:
    1. Everyone born - has a death sentence.
    2. Government lies. All governments, always, now and forever.
    3. Lockdowns like this will KILL people.
    4. Vaccines kill people. (Example, Chicken Pox vaccine - kills as many people as chicken pox does. So what use is the Vaccine here, too?)

    So, you can potentially limit transmission, but as it's aerosol anyway - you'd need to make every building a Clean Room, with every person wearing CBNW suits (Chemical, Biological, Nuclear weapons), and you'd STILL have outbreaks - BUT!!! You'll have people NOT exposed to ANY pathogens. MILLIONS, even BILLIONS, would die, quickly, if you ended the environment suits. Pursuing this is INSANE, and the loss of food, sunshine, mobility, quality of life - it's a way to induce mass depression and "help" people choose suicide.

    Both ways, you'll overwhelm the world's ability to process the bodies. Can't run enough crematoriums, or bury people fast enough, if this ball gets rolling.

    Leftists are a death cult.
     
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    Well, Fauci is a politician. Per his CV, he's has at most not even two years as a doctor.
    Less than two years out of med school, he was working at the NIH, I think it was.

    Given his wife is in charge of the ethics division of the NIH, I'd say THAT "Science" is settled: He's been supervised by someone as psychotic as he is.
     
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    People warned us of the opportunity of a 9/11.
    It was known that this was possible.

    Consider how many "terrorist" cases the FBI has been part of - like Governor Whitmer kidnapping in Michigan. They supplied materials, information, pushed the participants, led the planning - but the FBI isn't on trial, or charged with entrapment.

    It's all about "SHOW THEM WHY THEY NEED US!" from Chancellor in V for Vendetta.
     
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    Hunter Biden's password was hunter02 ?

    Not the brightest.
     
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    What a load of fucking bullshit these "vaccines" are.

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    On the subject of masks, I believe masks may serve the purpose of a psychological placebo. That is, humans feel powerless against invisible enemies like viruses. For most of human existence we didn't know the cause of disease, and blamed it on spirits, hexes, curses, and Gods. Faced with Covid-19, public officials may have wanted the public to believe there was something they could do to fight against this invisible enemy, and not be totally defenseless. People were scared half to death, and panicking. Hence, we were all required to wear masks.

    I have heard it said that TSA came about post 9/11 because the public would not feel safe to fly if it didn't exist to protect the public, shutting down a multi-billion dollar industry. Industry lobbyist possibly whispered into politician's ears and TSA was born. Politicians are always pressured to "do something" and create jobs, etc, etc.




    Beginning at about 17:40:

    From The Epoch Times: No Studies Showing ‘Masks Work That Well’ Against COVID-19: White House Health Official


    “There is no study in the world that shows that masks work that well,” Dr. Ashish Jha, the White House’s COVID-19 coordinator, said during a recent discussion with the Philadelphia Inquirer.​

    Jha made the statement as he promoted the investments that have been made in improving air quality as a way to cut down on COVID-19 infections.​

    “So you’re never going to get the kind of benefit from mandatory year-round masking as you would from making substantial improvements in indoor air quality, plus it’s a lot easier to implement as well,” Jha added. “So this is an area where we’re doing a lot and trying to really encourage people to use the resources they have to make those investments and start really improving ventilation filtration in buildings.”​

    Jha’s admission is unusual for him as he frequently advised people to wear masks during the pandemic and hyped their effectiveness.​

    “Masks dramatically reduce droplet and aerosolized transmission. When everyone in a setting is wearing a mask, the spread of the virus, even in close contact, is very low,” Jha, dean of the Brown University School of Public Health at the time, told a congressional panel in September 2020.​

    “So, I think the science on masks is actually quite clear. And there is broad agreement among public health and science experts that masks work,” Jha said from the White House podium in July.​

    “Another thing that helps both prevent infections and spread is masks,” Jha said that same month during a different White House briefing.​

    Even during the recent discussion, Jha said that “my view on this is really quite clear, which is, the evidence suggests that if you were high quality masks it clearly makes a difference, both in preventing spread to others; poor quality masks, cloth masks that don’t fit well, just, especially against Omicron, probably don’t do that much.”​

    The White House did not respond to a request for comment.​

    Jha has made a number of unsupported or false statements since assuming the White House position, including falsely claiming that none of the COVID-19 vaccines have serious side effects.​

    Experts around the world, including other U.S. government officials, have said since 2021 that there are serious side effects from the vaccines, including heart inflammation.​

    On Twitter, Jha boosted a post that said Jha, while talking about mask studies, was making a point “that cleaning indoor air can have a huge overall effect on public health in terms of reducing all respiratory diseases.”​

    “Masks are still a key added layer of protection but no way around cleaning/filtering indoor air as essential step to protect all,” the post, from Kimberly Prather, director of the National Science Foundation Center for Chemical Innovation, stated.​

    The only randomized, controlled trials on masks against COVID-19 showed little to no benefit in wearing them. Based on the results, it is “astonishing that some public health officials still impose mask mandates,” Martin Kulldorff, a senior scholar at the Brownstone Institute, recently wrote on Twitter.​

    ...​

    An observational CDC study in 2021 (pdf) concluded that masking requirements cut infections in schools.​

    Researchers examined the case rates in an Arizona county that had mask mandates and compared the rates in another Arizona county that did not have mandates and found the rates were higher in the latter.​

    Researchers said that “universal masking, in addition to vaccination of all eligible students, staff members, and faculty and implementation of other prevention measures, remains essential to COVID-19 prevention in K–12 settings.”

    The period of time studied was July 15 to Aug. 31, 2021.

    Another observational CDC study also backed masking, finding that masks lowered the odds of testing positive.

    Outside researchers, though, expanded on the first study and concluded there was no association between mask mandates and lower levels of pediatric COVID-19 cases.

    Dr. Tracy Høeg and Ambarish Chandra examined data from 565 counties. They found counties without mask mandates had additional cases after two weeks of schools reopening, but after nine weeks, the difference was not statistically significant.

    “The association between school mask mandates and cases did not persist in the extended sample,” the authors wrote in the paper, which was published by the Journal of Infection in December. “Observational studies of interventions are prone to multiple biases and provide insufficient evidence for recommending mask mandates.”​


    And where will businesses get the money to upgrade their ventilation systems? Well, the Federal Reserve will simply print it.

    Then we have, some people are at increased risk of Covid-19 so EVERYONE should do something to protect them, and if you don't, you are a mass murderer. Some people believe we should face zero risks throughout our lifetimes. Might as well be pod people, but even then the life support systems would be subject to failure and contamination.

    The Case for Wearing Masks Forever
     
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