Covid-19 and Life

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    Actor Tim Robbins admits he was wrong to support lockdowns and mask mandates.

     
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    That is good to learn. Chris offered a nice alternative view that guided my brain in a direction it wasn’t trained to do. Despite my vigilance, I can get fooled too. So chris’ approach is refreshing.
     
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    His Washington Nationals “mustache” is a great touch.
     
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    Hell just froze over.
     
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    What if there are numerous adverse events following Covid 19 vaccination, AND the vaccinations are "generally safe?"

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    A post-marketing safety assessment of COVID-19 mRNA vaccination for serious adverse outcomes using administrative claims data linked with vaccination registry in a city of Japan


    This study indicates 126 people died within 3 weeks of receiving their first or second dose of Covid vaccinations.

    But, 2,316 people died during the observation periods before, between, and following these two 3 week observation periods.

    There were a total of 387 adverse events within 3 weeks of vaccination, but 4,099 adverse events occurred during the "Control Periods."

    This is amongst the same population group, a city within Japan. People having or having had Covid 19 were excluded from the study. As were those with a recent history of these adverse events.

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    I stripped away the statistical information and presented the main numbers. I'm not a math or statistics major, so some may call foul on my methodology.

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    This study doesn't address adverse events per age group, and relative or absolute risk per age group. I would like to have seen the adverse events during each control period. Mainly before vaccination, and then following vaccination. I don't know what ugliness could be hidden in these gross (large) numbers.

    We also don't know what medical conditions were excluded, but should not have been.

    They copied prior studies done in Israel and the US, and were constrained by those methodologies
     
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    It sure looks that way.

    It sure seems like this was well planned.
    The massive scare, the way people panicked, and the huge over reaction just seem too much to be someone organic. To me it seems like a lot of effort had to be done to ensure all of this.

    What amazes me is how well the puppet masters are able to keep themselves hidden. Only Bill Gates and a few others slip up every now and then. And sometimes we see an idiot like Fauci blow it (for them) big time. But it's pretty rare.
     
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    And then we told them freedom of speech threatens democracy.

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    Elon Musk Retweets Robert Kennedy, Jr.’s Tweet Predicting The Esteemed Little Elf’s Life Is About to be Turned Upside Down
    The FDA finally admitted that Pfizer’s Chinese Coronavirus vaccine causes blood clots. See my post #4418 above.

    On Sunday The Hodge Twins tweeted on this sudden admission by the FDA.


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    Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. then weighed in on the discussion, “Fauci purchased omertà among virologists globally with a total of $37 billion in annual payoffs in research grants. With the paymaster gone, the orthodoxies will unravel.”

    Omertà is an Italian-Mafia word for code of silence. So Robert Kennedy, Jr. is predicting The Elf’s life is about to be turned upside down.

    Musk responded, “Precisely.”


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    May their words be prophesy!



     
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    You have NO idea how much it tickles me that such luminaries as Elon Must and RFK Junior listen to, or know, The Hodge Twins!!!!


    This really made my day.
     
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    I had no idea children get so many jabs. (We’ve no children). The unanticipated interactions alone must cause problems.
     
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    VAERS Shows a 4070% Increase in Miscarriages and Stillbirths Since mRNA Roll-out
    The vaccine is “safe and effective” according to Pfi$er, The Esteemed Little Elf, Dr. Silk Scarf, the CDC, FDA and the Federal government. (Yet you will recall Pfi$er’s President of International Developed Markets, Janine Small, admitted that the “vaccine” had never been tested on whether or not it prevented transmission of the disease before it entered the market.)

    But ... move along ... there is nothing to see here. Pay no attention to the 4,070% increase in miscarriages and stillbirths, as reported by VAERS.

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    Miscarriages as a result of a non-covid vaccine seemed to spike in 2008 around the HPV vaccine. That number was just over 160 cases (165). In 2021 and 2022, we see 3,379 and 1,445, miscarriages respectively, related to the Chinese Coronavirus vaccines.

    It is worth mentioning that only a small percentage of actual VAERS injuries get reported. So, the actual number is likely significantly higher.


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    https://twitter.com/NeilEJohnson/status/1604979946719412224
     
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    NO MATTER WHAT THE DEEP STATE SO-CALLED PUBLIC HEALTH EXPERTS AND THE MEDICAL-BIG PHARMA INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX WOULD LIKE YOU TO BELIEVE ... THE CLINICAL DATA IN SUPPORT OF IVERMECTIN AS A PROPHYLAXIS AND AS AN EARLY TREATMENT IS OVERWHELMING
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    And ... last time I looked it doesn’t cause myocarditis, miscarriages, or worm-like giant blood clots.

    See:

    https://c19ivm.org/

     
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    I wouldn't go that far. Although it sure seems like it now.

    I would say that government sure seems to be corrupt and determined to gain as much power as it can get. It seems to be hellbent on destroying the idea that government serves the people not the other way around.

    Sadly too many people are weak and afraid and won't take back the power that we have over government. Too many don't vote in primaries, don't learn about the candidates and now don't even want to go to the polls.

    To me it's sad that people can't take an hour or two to participate in determining our government(s). Do we really want these folks having a voice? In the US initially only land owners in some places could vote. Imagine that now. Imagine people having to have some investment in their communities and government to have a say. I know it's not popular and I'm not saying it's a good idea. But I am saying it's another perspective.

    Sadly as Musk is showing perspectives and voices outside of those that support those in power are being shut down. And to me that's frightening.
     
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    The information I presented above shows that "adverse events" normally occur to any given population at a certain expected rate. This means people who receive a vaccine will continue to experience these "adverse events" at least at the same rate. Adverse events occurring after vaccination DOES NOT automatically mean the vaccine WAS the cause, but DOES NOT mean the vaccine WAS NOT the cause.


    The CDC indicates 660,400,812 vaccine doses had been administered as of 12/15/2022.

    OpenVAERS indicates 2,380,043 adverse events have occurred. A very large number.

    Cold unfeeling math indicates 0.36% of vaccine doses have been associated with adverse events. (2,380,043 / 660,400,812)

    The CDC indicates 228,831,995 Americans have received at least the primary series of vaccines. These people may also have received booster shots.

    The CDC indicates 267,907,969 American have received at least one dose of vaccine.

    Cold unfeeling math indicates 0.89% of American who have received at least one vaccine dose have experienced adverse events. (2,380,043 / 267,907,969)

    I calculation 39,075,974 Americans received only 1 dose of vaccine. (267,907,969 - 228,831,995)


    The CDC indicates 1,083,279 deaths have been caused by Covid-19.

    The mortality rate is much higher for the elderly than those less than 65 years of age.

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    All this having been said, there is an usually high number of adverse events associated with Covid 19 vaccination based on historical trends.

    https://openvaers.com/

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    The Esteemed Little Elf: “It’s Nice that Some People Idolize Me and Put Me on a Pedestal”
    How nauseating is that?

    The Elf will be stepping down from his post after 54 years as a scientist at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease.

    He was the director of the NIAID for 38 years.

    The Elf lied about funding the Wuhan lab’s research on gain-of-function which ultimately led to the Chinese Coronavirus pandemic ... and boldly proclaimed that “he was science.”


    The twisted little midget is a megalomaniac drunk on power.

    After destroying millions of lives with Chinese Coronavirus lockdowns, putting roadblocks to alternative therapies and treatments that resulted in untold deaths, and then promoting the experimental Chinese Coronavirus vaccines for his Big Pharma buddies, The Elf is now gushing over people idolizing him.


    It’s nice that some people idolize me and put me on a pedestal,” The Elf said on Tuesday.

    Makes you want to puke .... literally.

    You can watch the video linked below ... if you have the stomach for it.


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    Why am I not surprised!
    And no just reading your post was bad enough. I suspect your video would make me nauseous for the rest of the day.

    We really need to use this to remind everyone that this is how politicians think. They may not be as overt about it, but they do think they're better than those they're suppose to serve.
     
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    DR. SCIENCE, AKA, THE ESTEEMED LITTLE ELF, AND HIS SUDDEN MEMORY FAILURE

    • In May 2022, the New Civil Liberties Alliance and the attorneys general of Missouri and Louisiana (Eric Schmitt and Jeff Landry) sued President Biden for illegally colluding with social media companies to suppress Americans’ First Amendment rights to free speech;
    • October 21, 2022, the court authorized expedited depositions of eight key federal officials, including The Esteemed Little. The Elf’s deposition took place November 23, 2022, and the full transcript was released December 5 - which I commented on above;
    • The Elf, who last year claimed to be the personification of science and whose statements could not be challenged or questioned, suddenly did not know much about anything and even claimed he’s unqualified to speak on certain scientific issues. According to the transcript, The Elf answered questions with “I don’t recall” 174 times - so much for being the personification of science;
    • However, in his deposition, The Elf definitively stated that it is “impossible” that the research he funded in Wuhan could have sparked the pandemic. Yet at the same time, he claimed to be only “vaguely familiar” with the research he funded there; and
    • The Elf also denied knowing key researchers whose work he’s been funding with millions of dollars for years, including Shi Zhengli at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, EcoHealth Alliance president Peter Daszak and Ralph Baric at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
    Lying fucking piece of shit ... Why don’t you ask me how I really feel about him?

    See:

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    I have become overly ambitious and started to look at CDC data on deaths.

    There are multiple categories, and the first data appearing on my spreadsheet of deaths in the US was for "Alzheimer disease and dementia data." That is why I am presenting data on this category first. I don't know how many categories I will get to, as it is a time consuming process to organize the data; for me at least.

    Alzheimer deaths have been trending upward at least since 2015, and there was a spike in 2020. The spike in 2020 MAY be related to the increase in deaths of the elderly caused by Covid 19, especially in nursing homes.

    The data for 2022 is incomplete, and is based on the first 47 weeks, of deaths and average deaths 2015-2019.

    "Variance" is basically my term for excess deaths. When there is an ongoing trend upwards it isn't overly accurate.

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    The second time around went much faster, as I had the necessary preparations completed. Only had to cut and paste data, for the most part.

    As with Alzheimer deaths, Heart Failure deaths were also tending up from 2015 to 2019. I used the "unweighted data," which doesn't take into some variable(s); perhaps population data. I will look at the weighted data and do a comparison.

    All I can say is, there were excess deaths from heart failure between 2020 and 2022, based on the average deaths from 2015 to 2019. But less than would be expected. I don't know how complete the data is for the more recent years.

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    This is quite significant...

    Top (woke) doctor says she suffered COVID-19 vaccine injury | 9 News Australia.

     
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