There is no reason to invest in a secure chastity device.

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    MYTH: your keyholder must rely on your promise and your willpower to stay in your chastity device because all devices can be defeated.

    TRUTH: that many or nearly all people can orgasm in their device. However, in some men’s experience it is uncomfortable or even painful and not worth it.

    TRUTH: all device can be removed without a key.

    MYTH: there are no devices available that can’t be escaped from without detection. In fact, there are several devices that can’t be escaped from without detection with as simple a device as a quality wire seal. There are other methods, devices differ,

    TRUTH: your keyholder can respond to you escaping in an unpredictable manner.

    TRUTH: Some couples don’t need a secure device or any device. They are in no way better or worse than those who do.

    TRUTH: There will always be people who will insist that their way is the ONLY correct way to do chastity or any kink or anything.
     
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    I disagree. I think there are a few reasons:

    1. Symbolic. It's a physical and visual reminder of the commitment.

    2. Gear-heads. There are people who are simply into hardware.

    3. Toys. While some people don't like the idea of sexual or kink aids as "toys", other people feel that items specifically made for sexual or kinky fun are toys because toys are fun.

    4. Difficult. Just because chastity isn't inescapable doesn't mean that it won't be anywhere between tricky to difficult to get out of.

    5. Security. Just as some people feel more secure and cared for in bondage, some people feel that way about chastity.

    6. The Look. Some folks love the look of a chastity device - either metal or in a flattering color.

    If the only goal of chastity for you is that the penis stays unaccessible then, yes, there'd be no point for folks who hold that one opinion of chastity to get a secure device. Not everyone holds that one opinion, though.
     
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    Myth: chastity requires a cage
     
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    That’s covered by my second-to-last TRUTH
     
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    I'm in agreement as far as a $50 device does same job as a $5000 diamond encrusted one. A lavish device doesn't make one more chaste just because it costs more. I'd like a custom cage one day just because but my $50 stainless amazon cage does same thing. I've said before and I stand by it. Chasity is mental not how much a device costs.
     
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    As said many times before, chastity is what you make of it. Could I pull out of my device? Maybe, but I would never be able to get back in! The break in trust and devotion would ruin all my Madam and I have, so it’s simply not worth the gamble!
     
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    God forbid you be thankful for a real keyholder who loves you and wants the best for you so much that you accept what they want for you and not try to constantly jerk off in your cage. Also, if I ever got a real loving keyholder, I would get a PA and a lori tube to show them I'm on board.
     
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    It would appear your assuming that all keyholders seek submission or care about your masturbation habits. That assumption would be incorrect in some cases.
     
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    Your not wrong for you. But for me the mental aspect is irrelevant. For me a chastity device is just another bondage device. I’m always in bondage of one type or another. Control is her kink.

    My wife cares not one wit about the mental aspect of chastity only the physical aspect of control. She like effective, high quality bondage devices. Control is important to her, imposition is entertaining for her, cooperation is boring, being “chaste”, has no value to her. Being able to escape without detection would not be acceptable.
     
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    That may be true for you. My experience differs. I’ve lost track of the number of chastity devices I’ve had over 40 years. However I can tell you that for me ball trap devices suck. I have a bespoke chastity device that is PA secured, incredibly light, tube only and sized perfectly so that friction keeps it from putting any strain on my piercing. A side effect of the tightness is a discomfort that turns to pain as I approach orgasm. A feat I have only achieved once and it was too painful to repeat. I am confident I can’t release myself without shearing the PA pin. Which I or any emergency room can accomplish. But that would require destruction of the PA pin and likely damage to a very expensive device. My wife loves the situation. In short I think it’s cool that chastity devices have improved over the years that people are happy with a fifty dollar device. I’m happy that some people are happy without a device. None of my previous devices provided my wife with the confidence she has in our current device. As a bonus I pass through security of all kinds regularly without issue. Yes it’s expensive, but for us it’s worth every dime.
     
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    I’ll add this - technically YES, any device COULD be defeated without the key… however in some cases, as in mine, it would be very difficult, and involve some very dangerous use of tools near something that wouldn’t want to be damaged.

    Also, I’m in the camp where if I try to stimulate and orgasm in my device, it’s definitely painful later/sore and not worth it. I’ve only been desperate enough once and it was with her by my side and the head of my cock and my piercing was very sore for a few days, and I don’t want to repeat that.
     
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    How does the PA make balltraps more difficult to cheat whilst in?

    Same question for the tube only devices. Surely you can get off by stroking the base of the penis when erect. How does it hang? Surely it doesn't prevent erections?
     
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    I won’t speak for ball traps I genuinely dislike them based on comfort. As for my tube only device as it doe not prevent an erection mine is tight enough that when fully erect it is pretty uncomfortable the urethra is collapsed and your ejaculate has nowhere to go the head is swollen to the confines of the vented cap and it becomes very painful to orgasm. So yes, I could induce an orgasm via stroking or a vibrator. But I’m not doing that again. Plus with a really hard erection filling the tube that in itself is very uncomfortable. You can’t pinch down the erection (the cap prevents it) so you can’t relieve the discomfort.
     
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    Edging? Is that too much too?
     
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    Edging is great until you mis-judge and take it to far then not so great.
     
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    I don't think any device prevents erections. The physical response still happens if you are able. But it restricts them from achieving fullness and become highly uncomfortable (or comfortable if you like that kind of thing). They don't prevent you from getting off either.

    There are lot of fallacies with common chastity claims.
     
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    It may be because I'm on various meds and 66, but my Cherry Keeper micro has totally stopped my erections. I had one the first night, none since then. The slightly larger Stub had the same effect. The short and small I did get erections while wearing them.
     
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    With the wife’s permission I attempted to orgasm while in cage. I won’t be doing that again.

    My cage has a piercing prong, which when vibrations are added hurts like crazy. I succeeded, it was after she was done and she jokingly asked if I wanted a turn. I didn’t hesitate lol. I was plenty worked up from playing with her, and it still took 30 minutes to succeed. I was then sore for a week.

    It was purely a physical response, I cannot get erect in cage, a slight plumping is all that can happen. The piercing prong assists in that as well I think, keeping it centered in the cage and unable to push up or out.

    Anyway, yes even mine that is incredibly difficult to orgasm in is possible, but certainly not something that is quick, painless, or pleasurable. It would be something very very deliberate and not just a moment of weakness.

    My cage is like a wedding ring, taking it off is weird, and frankly not encouraged. In fact if my wife saw me naked without the cage, I think it would be odd for her. It’s normally not off long enough for her to get a view of it.

    She loves me caged, and I love that she controls that.
     
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    You should change your name on here to Ouroboros.
     
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    What device do you have?
     
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    Hmmm,..... no pics and it sounds like you're not really into chastity.
     
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    Nice try with the troll.
     
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    I wear a ball trap device, several actually. You just don't tamper with it or try to pull out. I respect my kh and wouldn't do that.
     
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    Steelwerks Extreme.
     
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