Why doesn’t your Domme want sex with you?

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    She does have what she calls ‘real men’.

    Every relationship is different. I feel freedom in my servitude and submission to my wife/owner. I do feel like I am having sex while giving her oral. I also feel like I’m having sex when I’m with her and her ‘real man’. Her satisfaction is my satisfaction.
     
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    Very true. She has always been along for the ride and did the kinky stuff for me. I really screwed up much earlier in our marriage (we've been together for over a decade) and told her I wasn't interested in food play in bed, which as far as I can tell has been the only spontaneous kinky thing she's expressed. However now that she's got the key, she's progressed down a path...

    - not sure about this chastity thing
    - worried about my penis
    - thinks i'm doing this for just my sexual pleasure
    - happy with my housework
    - hesitant to say no to whatever I'm asking
    - didn't complain when i do chores wrong
    - comfortable with chastity but doesnt like the cage
    - doesn't care if im locked for 3-4 days
    - says no if she really feels strongly
    - says "you could do this chore differently"
    - happier with my housework
    - no longer worried about *her* penis
    - keeps me locked until she has a use for her penis
    - tells me no easily
    - tells me what to do and how to do it
    - knows that i want to focus on her sexual pleasure

    So this has transpired in just a few months. I'm wondering (and secretly hoping) that I'll have some "buyers remorse" soon with her new attitude. She's being way more bossy and I'm guessing she'll take her new confidence and surprise me quite a bit.
     
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    #53 Nicoftime, Jan 15, 2019
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    First off let me start by find your viewpoint very interesting, and very proactive, which is a breathe of fresh air. I would add to your response to me with some information that I didn’t add, mostly because it wasn’t part of the original question.

    1. It is not her that wants her to only do things she wants to do, it’s me that craves that. Would I be happy if she wanted to screw my brains out every night? Yes, but only if that is what she wanted. And yes you are correct about sex can be, and is almost exclusively for us, about intimacy and connection. She does this with me anytime she desires, and will sometimes hop on for a little ride and be done. I will orgasm if allowed, but more often than not, after she has had her intimacy time, she gets the wand out to finish up. She gets her big O, and I get the pleasure of knowing I am part of her satisfaction and has the kind of sex she really enjoys without guilt or obligation. It is very liberating know you are always doing the right thing, because we are always doing it the way she wants.

    2. Caught jerking... it was actually a thread from here we were talking about when the subject came up. It was about what your kh would do if they caught them. Her initial response when we first started was to hand me the key back. Quite a bit of time later she brought it up and said “I changed my mind, I think I would lock you up for a year or so, we’re not going back”. Issue with the lock isn’t about her not trusting me, although I’d be lying if I said that the added reassurance didn’t appeal to her. It’s about me not trusting me. Freedom leads to light touching, which leads to edging, which leads to “she’ll Never know”. I have been allowed freedom for periods of days, and if I haven’t been told to lock up, I usually do on my own to remove temptation. Not that I am a cheater, it’s just easier with the cage.

    3. No she doesn’t use “certain amount of time”. When we first started she experimented with different times, but quickly threw that out. She didn’t like the idea of a clock holding the key and not her. It took away her options, and seemed like she was a warden or security guard, instead of someone who locked up her things for safekeeping. It’s not about her keeping me from touching myself, it’s about her not wanting to share her things lol. Actually I’m not exactly sure why me touching myself isn’t allowed, I just know that she’s never handed me the keys and said to do that, so I’m guessing she doesn’t want me wasting my sexuality on myself without her.

    4. She doesn’t feel the need to...isn’t talking about her desire for sex. Our sex has just changed, we are having more and more sex, it’s just not traditional, and is centered around her. She gets off almost daily, with either my mouth, fingers, toys, or a combination. She has said this is the best sex she’s ever had, and has never felt so comfortable and open about getting her needs met. She doesn’t just lock me up and go without. She just doesn’t seem the need to unlock me because she is sexually satisfied in other ways besides me grinding it on her for a few seconds and being done. She can have intense orgasms with the wand after a long oral session. Can O with my fingers (which are much bigger than me), or can O with our 9inch strap on that I wear. That is one of my favorite ways...I get to have sex like someone with a big cock and explore positions that I normally cannot reach or do on my own.
    We are having plenty of sex.

    So we may not be typical, not really sure there is a typical in all this. I do know that she is very happy getting exactly what she wants, when she wants, and i am happy that she is sexually satisfied and it’s because of me. No she doesn’t do the long tease sessions often, but she does them whenever the mood strikes her, and that is the only time I’m comfortable with it. Knowing she was doing something out of obligation would turn me off. She takes it out to use whenever she wants, and her being happy, makes me happy. Watching her have a great O, holding her while she shudders, hearing her moan, it’s all amazing. That is what most of our “teasing” is, and believe me, it’s quite a tease being that close and still not being physically pleasured.

    Hope that clears some of that up.
     
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    For me its fairly simple. I will masterbate by myself senselessly and fail to serve my partner. I have OCD and get really stressed out. And masturbation de-stresses me so much. Being in chastity makes me feel safe and distracted though so it works well too (outside of missing some sleep). But it lets me serve so much better, since I'll do anything for a milking <3
     
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    Princess? (I would slap my sub if he called me that....lol. But I'm a tomboy. ;) )

    Actually, once a week is very good for a female. I'd say you're very lucky.

    Just collecting thoughts here... I'm starting to read a lot about how Dommes want more attention, sexual or otherwise, and that's why they do chastity, to make their sub pay more attention to them. My question is: Why do Dommes need more attention in the first place? For me, having to make a man pay attention to me tells me the man is not worthy of me. I'd drop him, I wouldn't go about setting up a situation to make him pay me attention. Your thoughts? Why do you prefer to be made to pay attention than to do it on your own accord?
     
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    lol... I'm guessing she doesn't like cheating? ;) So... if you'd prefer to have sex with her girlfriend than with her, why aren't you with her girlfriend?
     
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    There is a good theme coming through these answers that Dommes are sexual but only on their own terms. Girl power! But, of course, you don't need to be a Domme for that to happen. ;)

    I find the chastity paradox to be that while the sub is caged to stop PIV, the Domme also has to give up PIV so she is caging herself too...lol. Caging his cock is caging her cock. ;)
     
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    But she always has the key for when she requires her cock....
     
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    I don't know if it's more attention, per se. It's more the kind of attention. When I'm locked I'm far more likely to put her needs above mine and to watch the shows she wants to watch, rub her back or feet, really really desire to pleasure her sexually instead of just wanking myself off, etc.
     
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    I will try to explain in relation to my situation.
    When we met we were in love, we made love like rabbits.
    We didn't fight.
    From time to time I would please myself when I thought in the next few hours she won't want sex.
    Time went one.
    We got kids.
    She needed less sex.
    I watched more porn
    more extreme porn
    she denied me because she didn't want sex
    I denied her because I just pleased my self and because of sentiment.
    I got angrier,
    unhappier
    a lot of it had to do with porn and masturbation.
    We got a Chastity device and went to therapy.
    The combination worked.

    Then came the turn.
    I read, if I stop porn my fantasies will be with my wife. This sounds extraordinary and I wasn't sure I believe it. However it happened. Whenever I fantasize about sex it includes my wife. No porn actress. If you have time watch the video I have linked above (the ted talk with garry).

    Why women don't drop their husbands? Sometimes there are kids, sometimes there are good memories and the wish it will return to the good again, sometimes there are financial dependencies. Thank god we don't all just throw away the relationship at the first speed bump. :)
     
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    I disagree that the Domme also has to give up PIV or that she is caging herself. She can have it whenever she wants. That's the whole point to us, that he's always there ready for her, that he hasn't been off somewhere with me wasting himself. Thus, your first sentence is correct -- Dommes are sexual on their own terms. Whenever they want to they can. It's the boy whose erections are stored away for her.
     
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    Hm... yes, that automatically made me think it is you who doesn't like PIV...lol. Some would call you very lucky. ;)

    Yeah - 'gift' / 'prize'. I don't use myself in that way. I don't reward my sub with access to me - he gets access because he's a wonderful man, with high values, and he values me - I want to be with a man like that. Sometimes I might say he can come on a particular part of me because he has been a good boy, but really it is because I want it.

    Does your Domme enjoy your pleasure?
     
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    My one question is: Are you happy with this situation? Is it giving you what you need?
     
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    You were close 4 times last year. She has said that She would like to do it more, but She likes
    the fact that she can hop on a dildo on top of me and tease me very well in that position. And the
    fact that I can do nothing but please Her really turns Her on. She gets off very well in that position
    and can verbalize what I am missing.

    As far as Her wanting me more. I am perfectly fine pleasing Her in anyway She wants. She has
    become very accustomed to the fact She can take me upstairs, have me knock Her socks off and
    then say "you can go back to the laundry now." cool as ice. She will sometimes pleasure herself
    and have me watch just to see me swell up in the tube. She cares, but also knows it's always
    what SHE wants and it is a privilege to serve Her. Dominant or selfish? Maybe both, I'm not
    sure, but it works for us.:+1:
     
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    lol... do you tell her how much pleasure you get from it? Does she know it satisfies you just like PIV? Or is it a secret because if you tell her she'll take it away....lol?

    It's good to get another person's idea of chastity. My idea is very strict. As soon as a sub is allowed any sexual activity, it's not chastity. Chastity is not something put upon a sub, it is not a device, it is something he must earn. Chastity comes from the heart, not from mere physical confinement. I'm into the spirit of the law. ;)

    I understand. Everyone is different, are at different stages and need different things. Many men must be forced to be submissive, to obey, to pay attention, to have their sexuality controlled... Likewise, you seem to be begging your Domme to make you submissive. I'm glad it works for both of you. You seem to love it.

    However, that is actually not my way. Forcing or making someone obey is beneath me. I don't have to do it. Because of the woman I am, I don't have to make my sub do anything. He hopes to do these things for me. I just give him permission to submit to me and he does it all. I never have to take. He gives and gives and gives... It's quiet incredible. He is the natural born. So, I don't deny him to make him submissive – he is already perfectly so – but to increase his and our pleasure. Thank you for letting me remember how lucky I am, and how truly remarkable my puppy is. <3 xx
     
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    i can not say i am happy, but i did screw up. i hope i am saying this without offending you Miss Veronica. i was getting fellatio and intercourse daily from my Wife. Before that i was allowed to join in with my Wife and Her GF. i now serve them in their needs orally and due chores around house. i am wearing panties by my Wife's orders under my clothes when out and when home that's all i wear. Maybe i needed to have many orgasms controlled and i would have never got to here. So i guess i am sort of happy just not sure where my Wife & Her GF may have me headed. As always Miss Veronica Thank You for reading my reply. If You like to ask more questions i will answer them to best of my ability.
     
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    Yay! Thank you for sharing. I identify with much you have written.

    Yes, I'm the same! I already have a high sex drive and chastity play actually increases it. 0.0 There is just something about a caged man... they have a type of innocence that I just want to devour. As they try to stay chaste, I love tempting them into giving themselves to me. Playing on their weaknesses is sweet as syrup. Their battle between resisting temptation and falling into pleasure excites the hell out of me.

    My sub is getting a serious chastity device and I'm starting to get a little too excited about it...lol. I think it will have the same affect on me as lingerie to a (vanilla) guy - I'll love it but it'll only be on for two seconds before I'll want to rip it off...lol.

    Yes, I agree. The seriousness of such a possession as a key is very daunting to me. I've never kept a key before – though I have played with them – because I've never wanted to make such a commitment to someone. No one yet has been good enough for me to want to (gosh, my standards are very high). But, my puppy is very different from all the others...

    Cheers
     
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    Yes, I love the look of cages. They are so perdy!

    Hm... it seems that a cage is also like collaring?

    Why can't you focus on her without a cage? Also, being sexually dominant, I'm the actor, not the acted upon. So, it's not about his focus at all - it's about what I want to focus on, and that's most often him...lol. I want to devour his body.
     
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    Just wanted to add something as you mentioned a domme having to “make” their sub behave better through chastity, and they should already treat her that way.

    You are absolutely correct...in theory, but speaking for myself, and I imagine many men, it is a priority adjuster.

    Example before chastity:
    It’s 9, my kh is ready for bed and is tired. With that knowledge, I know no funny business is going to happen. I’m not real tired and know she is just going to sleep. I might just stay up, watch some tv, and if the mood strikes me, get myself off watching a lil porn. She believes I’m isolating her, and basically I am.

    After chastity:
    I am not real tired, but something drives me to be closer to her. Even if I know no funny business is going to happen, I go to bed with her anyway. Needing that closeness and intimacy, anything I can get. She’s happy that I put in the time and effort to be close to her.

    Should men act better, even if they aren’t horny, locked up, and all that Jazz? U bet. In reality a horny guy acts differently, he just does. He’s more willing to put a priority on her. He watches movies he would rather not, goes to parades that he thinks are a waste of time, goes to bed early to snuggle, and even talks about his feelings and anxieties more freely. I congratulate you on having such a partner that doesn’t act any differently whether he’s horny or not, I believe it is a bit more of an exception than the rule.
     
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    What works is always good...lol. ;)

    Wow... you guys are long term! ;) It's great you guys have worked things out, many don't. I'm actually in my first kinky relationship. I've been playing for a (long) while but never wanted to settle with anyone. But now, I've found an adorable puppy that I can't say goodbye to. So, I'm in my first kinky relationship and I must say... it's absolutely wonderful. x
     
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    Thank you <3.

    I don't know your situation, but I hope this gives insight: I have spoken to a lot of men who are in sexless marriages. They try all sorts of things to encourage their partner to want to join them in igniting/developing/reinventing their sex life. The problem is, their partner has lost their spark for sex and intimacy, and no matter how much the guy tries, she's just not interested. It's not that she doesn't love him, it's that their love is comfortable already, it doesn't require one another to change.... so the girl won't.

    It's good to have hope, but it is also good to have a plan B. All the best.
     
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    Very interesting. Thanks.

    I understand that using chastity may help people addicted to porn but I don't think it is a thorough solution. I think it is important for the person who is addicted to go through the mental process of detoxing, and forced chastity might frustrate that as it absolves the sub from doing the hard part - having the umph to overcome it through his own will and efforts. ;)
     
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    lol... you just devoided yourself of sex for a few months. ;) And what's more, you are making your Domme prove to you that she doesn't need PIV sex from you. That might start her on a whole new direction. ;)

    This situation actually supports the fact that when a sub's cock is in chastity, her cock is in chastity too...lol. I really love a challenge like this, but I love my sub's cock more. ;)
     
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    And you love this? This makes you happy? This fulfils you?


    Does the way she dominate you make you feel better about your 'inadequacies'? That you deserve to be treated that way? Or is it more that the way she dominates you makes you feel 'inadequate'?


    Thank you so much for the thorough rely!!!! xx
     
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    Thanks for the comparison. It's really good. x

    Yes. I'm starting to see that chastity for many is a way to make them submissive, not because they are inherently submissive.

    I've played with too many subs to count.... but I've actually realised they weren't submissive at all, they were just willing to submit - and there a difference. My puppy has taught me what a truly submissive man is, just by being himself. I think he has ruined me. I will never be able to go back to the other type of sub.

    Thank you. My puppy is a pure example of a submissive man. He hasn't needed training, he just instinctively knows. (Though, his eagerness does tend to get him into trouble...lol.) Everything that subs say chastity does for them - it makes them more affectionate, caring, attentive, less selfish, more thoughtful – is already what my puppy is. Sometimes I'm afraid of how perfect he is. It could be something like walking along a busy street and I'm telling him a story. He'll suddenly say, 'hang on,' and pull on my hand to lead me to a quiet bench. He'll offer me to sit and then actively face me. He'd continue, 'There were too many distractions on the street... I want to hear your story and to give you my full attention.' You have no idea what his kind of behaviour does to a woman. Yes, my sub is he exception.

    Cheers
     
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