Is there really a device that can't be removed?

I disagree with those who say that you can can escape the device, and put it back on without anyone knowing, LadyPhoenix. It may be possible, with time, effort, and certainly not without pain, to remove a device, but provided it is properly sized and your caged one is not too small, putting it back on is just impossible.

 

UPDATE:
So this Thread made me curious.
As I had to take a shower anyway I just tried if there is any chance to get out of my belt.
I soaped it up and down, tried every known tricks, tried to push „him“ in and then maybe find a little gap to get at least something out....
But, No Way !!!
So my conclusion is, if you have a properly sized belt (BBCS), and are wearing it with the Ring, then there is no escape.
My setup is a BBCS, 50mm Oval Ring, Open Cage and a quite large tube (the tube size doesn‘t matter as it is the Ring who makes it impossible), I don‘t wear the rod through the legs.
The other setup is,
Male, in quite good shape, equipped with a circumcised grower that ranges from about barely visible on a cold day up to 7,5“ , and nearly 6“ circumference when let out of the jailhouse

orgasms ???
For me not possible, I can get quite to the edge, but that last little bit needed to pass the Point of no Return....no
Maybe this is due to the shape of the tube, as when getting an „errection“ it will start to press the glans, or maybe because I am circumcised and need more input to get over the edge

 

I remember quite vividly, her expression when said I usually just pull it out the back to clean and groom. She was like “you can do that?” I said anything but anchoring it to the device like a piercing and yeah I can pull it out the back. She had this look of disappointment. I said I could get a piercing if you want. I was almost positive she would say “no that’s all right”, but instead, her face lit up a little and said “ok, you should make an appointment”. We went to the biggest city close to us the next day and she was there when I got it done.

 

And this is all part of that "internal script" that people have running through their heads. It's more the locked men, of course, whose scripts tend to feature unbreakable or uncheatable devices (because that ties into the loss of control fantasies), but some women hove those scripts, too. For instance, my wife would rather have me wear a cage because (in her script) in means she has more control, and it prevents casual cheating on my part.

The devices are not totally useless (generally speaking), but anyone playing with this really has to understand that any device is only going to be as good as the person wearing it.

 

please Miss yes you rigt. I did think that but its cos my Mistress find out everthing.

 

Plus, one thing my wife said recently... I like that you can’t even get hard without me.

As the one locked, I will say that losing that ability is even more powerful than loss of orgasms. After a certain bit of time it really starts to weigh on you, the feeling and lack there of.

 

I must be the rare exception or dont have a high enough pain tolerance but cant get out of my CCC (cheap chinese cage) with all the soap and lube I want.

She even tried to help me one day and left happy that it wasnt happening.

I will say it was our 6th cage and the base ring is uber tight and requires constant lube.

She has learned to lock up any vibrators and Im pretty helpless without. I can destroy the cage or lock in seconds (and we did twice in the past due to lost key and lock jamming) but no undetected O here even without a piercing.

 

That’s awesome. My wife went with me too. She said her eyes went wide at the size of the 10g needle and was impressed by my willingness and fortitude in going through with it. The anticipation was worse for me than the quick event but it made for a great moment for us to share.

And the piercing has been fun for her besides functional as chastity security.

 

This. I have said repeatedly that the loss of my erection is far more profound and submission-inducing than simply not spurting. It's the difference between edging and not even being able to have an erection.

 

LOL! I guess I just don't understand why someone would make a deal with another person to go into chastity, and then destroy the device to get out.

OTOH, what is there to understand in chastity at all? As I write this, I have a hard cage on my genitals, and am wearing pink women's panties. How many people outside this community understand that?

 

The only 2 reasons to cut you way out of a chastity device:

1) Medical Emergency.
2) Your keyholder has ghosted you and it is quite obvious you won't see her again. Be careful if you are a needy sub, and need constant contact or gratification - she may just be doing her own thing for a bit and be back when she is ready.

 

We have tried some version of about every device design not requiring a piercing or urethral tube and have not found one that was safe for long term wear and could not be escaped with some lubrication. Using a very tight ring the HTv3 nano was inescapable but needed to be removed every few days due to testicular swelling and skin breakdown.

We’re looking into getting a custom ring just a few mm larger to see if it is as secure but without the issues but, after so much time and $ spent finding a proper device, are skeptical any ball trap device will be 100% escape proof and safe, at least for my anatomy. Piercings and belts are turn offs to her.

At best, my current device is a good deterrent from masturbating (I could only remove it with effort while totally flaccid) and a constant reminder of who is in charge in our relationship.

 

I wear a CB2000 with the large points of intrigue, and there is no way I can pull out without tearing my penis to shreds, and there is no way I could get back in. It hurts just trying to get hard!

 

Piercing makes bondage 100% of the time possible. Perhaps a full belt like a neosteel could achieve 100% inescapable bondage without piercing but that is assumption only. All who report on neosteel here seem to agree they are effective.

I should mention that through time and general use I got used to the situation at some point, piercing and all, and can cum while caged. But caged orgasm... is still bondage. . .even if pleasure is involved!

Great thread btw, thanks!

So true.

 

There was no piercing I could not get out of. Until I got the PA. Now when I’m locked, I’m locked.

 

I've never met a tumbler lock that I couldn’t bypass in 90sec or less with a couple of paperclips. Those little luggage locks are the easiest. Anyone can bypass them with a steak knife and no damage to the lock. Tubular locks like behind barz uses are easy too. They can be breached with a ball point pen and a pair of scissors. Locks are barely an inconvenience if you know how they work and how to overcome them.

 

Yes there is, the looker 2 with the tether spout. It can not be removed without both the key and the Allen key, indeed a tamper proof wire can be threaded through the spout and the lock making it tamper proof. Ill add the wire to my gallery when I get around to it, but it is essentially the same as the tag pictures with the lock (in my gallery) just that the wire would pass down to the spout as well.

Tether spouts don't seem to be in common use, I am not aware of anyone else using the tether spout with a looker 2 device, but I have been in it for more than 2 weeks with no problems...and there is no need to remove the spout for play or even sex (tried it). If you were to have to remove it every time the cage came off it would be a hassle.

It is as effective as a piercing, and a LOT easier to pee. And if you want to remove it its easy to remove just harder to get back in.

 

I’d love to get a PA but I’m one of the few men who does not have a frenulum to pierce. So no PA, no fun. I’ve managed to defeat my cage both intentionally and unintentionally. I bought a set with rings ranging from 2” down to 1.5” and I guess since my left ball is so much smaller than my right, I can pop at least one out and then my cock. It just happened this morning as I was applying a moisturizer to my sack. Very upsetting. Hopefully my new steel one won’t allow me to do this.

 

I’m cut. I don’t have a frenulum. I have a PA. Can you re-explain? Do you have hypospadia?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frenulum_of_prepuce_of_penis

https://www.piercingbible.com/piercing-information/male-genital-piercings/prince-albert-piercing/

“If you don’t have a large penis or a high urethra (allowing for a substantial distance between the piercing and the lower edge of your urethral opening), your piercing can be placed a little further down the shaft to cheat some extra tissue into the piercing. The skin it pierces through won’t be any thicker—it will just be a little further from the tip of your penis. You should have no less than 1/2" of tissue between the piercing and the lower edge of your urethra when your penis is flaccid.”

“Approximately 1/250 male children is born with a form of hypospadias, a congenital defect in which the opening of the urethra is not located at the tip of the penis. The Prince Albert piercing is inadvisable in severe cases. In milder cases, the urinary meatus is still on the head of the penis (sometimes in the spot where a PA would traditionally be placed). If the urethra is large enough, the piercing might still be possible by situating it further down the shaft”

 

Hi. Yes I have hypo. Born with my peehole close to my b-ball’s than my glans. After several surgeries it’s an inch below the tip. I can’t wait for my new cage to arrive so I can pee more normally. It’sa stainless model with the head made of thin bars rather than the three holes in my holy trainer knock off.

 

I have a Happygo and a Bon4M that I have not been able to remove without drilling the lock out of the Happygo or cutting lock off the Bon4M. My wife/KH and I have both used Lube, Ice, and several other ointments and have never had success getting me out of the device. Things will move somewhat, but once the pain starts its a no-go. The CB-Series we could remove and get back in, but usually the seams weaken and the device splits and that is why we use metal.

The locks were drilled or cut off by the wife when the keys would no longer work, but she did make me wait until she did the work. As she pointed out it was my responsibility to make sure everything was lubed and not to buy cheap locks.