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    The item has been purchased and it is shipping soon. I read the posts again and realized that 84mm is 3+ inches, so a 65mm could work from what macmagna is saying, but I feel the 60mm will cause the same issue I had with cheap plastic 60mm HT as it did not fit in and I was flaccid but sore from the pressure it put on my head. Maybe after wearing this new device for a while, I might take the risk of getting the 60mm version of the metal cage I had but without the open top design.

    Also, the 90mm metal device is in the trash because the adjustments I made did not work. I should have never taken it apart. Let's hope this new device works out for nights as a find a good smaller device for days. Thanks to macmagna and sissybitch, I now feel that we could have solved a simple issue from the very beginning if I joined this forum and I would still be enjoying the cheap 60mm HT2. Well, we live and we learn and like I said, I am new to all of this.
     
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    Wow. This may be a risky move but I am doing it! I am purchasing the 60mm steal cage because I still have this gut feeling that things will work out and that I need to learn to not over assume things and take things way too fast. Like I said, there is a high chance you are right and I could be fine with a 60mm device. If I do have on-going extreme pain and other issues, I will let you know and we can work it out the proper way...without me replying too much and thinking I have all the knowledge. I can't make up my mind! No device is perfect but with this group, I know we can do our best to solve the issues. Wish me luck.
     
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    I am still waiting for my refund but as I am waiting I have a couple of question to ask.

    I noticed that when putting on my steel device adjusted to mimic 60mm (I cut off the end and somewhat reattached it after cutting off the cage to match the 60mm length), I have to squeeze my soft-flaccid penis 1.25 inches inward (fills the 33mm diameter). Without that squeeze, the lock cannot reach the ring even when flaccid. So my question is this: When mid-erect, is it possible that the extra inch and more will come back, forcing the ring down way farther like the cheap 3rd party HT2 did (I used all rings and even the 40mm caused to slide down)?

    I now feel that steel is a different ball game and sturdy steel has different properties than cheap plastic...but I woulld like to know if there is a chance that it could leave a horribly painful red mark on the end of my penis after wearing it for a while (With the plastic 60mm junk, I was trying to get penis to turn flaccid while causing the pain to increase as the penis got pushed even stronger onto the tip/pee hole). Ithink I posted that before but maybe not.

    This is the only reason I am anxious about getting the one that might be better for me. Macmangna's reply changed my mind as his penis is also above 80mm when flaccid and there are no issues with his small 65mm cage.

    My feelings have been switching back and forth. At times feel that adrenaline you get when riding your first roller coaster but thinking it will all be fine. At times, I want to continue the 80mm device and stop the current cancellation process.

    I hope I hear back soon before the seller contacts me back with the refund or not. There is a chance that it might not be able to be canceled and I'll still get the 80mm device. Either way should be fine, right. Maybe I could have both devices.
     
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    I wanted to let you know that I have got the refund but the card won't be active until tomorrow or Thursday. I have the choice of getting the 60mm steel device with the same end design but a closed tube. I wish they had something similar that is 70mm. I'm going to keep looking and see what there is. Iam not giving up! I still would appreciate some of those questions answered anytime soon.
     
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    So, I did my looking and all the steel devices that have a simple ring-groove design with the end cap I love are only 60mm and below. I posted the photo below with the measurements as well. Like I said, I am a bit iffy about going below 70mm until I get those questions I posted above asked. The things I do enjoy about getting this 60mm device is knowing the fact that my urethra will not slide into the left bar because it will not leave the bar tips and slip back, and the fact that I can wear pants so I can keep it on if company comes over.

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    I hope to hear back soon. Nobody posted or replied about my pros and cons with the 80mm length. Is it because I am posting solo too much like a chatroom?
     
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    I just talked with sissybitch and I am fine with this new cage for a try. Why? That plastic replica....it was not 60mm. Yep! The despicription says it comes with a 60mm cage that attaches right under the base ring and up to the stomach. Therefore, it was actually a 50-55mm device; no joke!

    By the way, I had it all wrong from the start and now I have a totally different viewpoint on chastity devices. I didn't realize the device should be 10mm smaller than the flaccid size. This makes a hig difference and answered a lot of my questions.

    Yes, I am getting the 60mm cage and it should work out. If not, I'll post some info and we can all discuss some ways to fix them.
     
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    the cage you just showed is a great choice. You won't have skin sticking out between bars down your shaft. Your glans is still going to be all over the place no matter which device you buy, but with this one at least you can correct it enough to make a difference. The biggest help will be in the closed shaft tube though. Also this one has a nice contoured base ring. you are going to like it. Very comfortable. Way more (in my opinion) than the metal HTv2 base ring.
     
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    I am glad to see that you like it. I'm definitely going to buy it and like I said, I am excited to realize that this device could be almost an inch longer than my first junky "60mm" device that might have placed 10mm of that 60mm length tube under the ring and lock. If it is true like I believe, the extra 10mm should make a big difference. I could be fully wrong and the plastic cage itself could have been 70mm to make up for the space under the lock. Do a lot of cheap 3rd party devices do this? And again, I am still concerned that when I am semi-erect, the ring will slide down my shaft because of extra space needed if the penis is very long. If that happens, the device could slide off but if it happens, there is a way around it: bowline knots and wire! Hey, at least there is no bulge designed for the bottom of the penis to slip in (see my first few posts).
     
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    @macmagna is spot on with his points on this device , so now just buy it and when you get it as we have spoken about give yourself time to adjust to it , not just a few hours it needs days , take a break if you need to and then refit , I will say again and I cannot stress this strongly enough ,both you and your body need time to adjust , given time you will get used to it ,
     
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    Good to know. I hope to buy it soon. I am not happy right now as I can't buy anything online at the moment.

    I only buy chastity devices online with pre-paid gift cards as I always do cash. I went to the local store yesterday to get the $25 gift-card and I purchased the 80mm device and asked for a refund. I just called VISA and I will not be able to use my gift card until next week as it takes a while for the refund to apply within the balance; I think this is crap. When I purchase it, I am getting higher priced shipping so it will come a bit sooner. It will probably take 5-6 business days, so the estimated time of deliver will be from June 17 to June 20. Like the previous device, it will take around two weeks for it to arrive. If I didn't purchase the 80mm device, it would be coming next week. Bummer.

    I will also try and shave my pubes before it comes (I have no electric trimmer and I am scared to cut myself with a razor blade). When it is delivered, I will wait until I am fully soft and flaccid before inserting the device onto my penis. I will keep all of these things in mind when it comes as I now understand a lot of my assumptions about using chastity cages were incorrect.
     
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    Ok, sorry it took me so long to get back to you on this, but you are worth it so I'm going to give do my best to give it to you straight... I do use a lot of sarcastic humor in my posts.

    Everything beyond this point is completely poking fun, super sarcastic and meant to only entertain me... and while it's all true... Makes me laugh... I hope it makes you laugh too... If not then you are too serious about something that should be fun.

    People who discover this site and this subject often times have a good idea of exactly how they want everything to go... They spend hours or days picking the perfect device... They have been looking at chastity pic posts and are drooling over the idea of what their first experience will be like... They have the perfect device picked out and daydream about what it must be like to finally make the switch to a custom device... Some day... And it will be perfect in every way!

    They measure themselves, they study devices, they learn how to quickly convert from metric to US inches, and become technical experts on a device that they don't own memorizing every detail. They visit DH gate, eBay, and even Amazon Daily to compare every make and model and check prices.

    Oooh this one comes with removable spikes and an urethral tube. I'm not sure what that ball splitter hook is for but I think it will protect my balls in case I run into a wall face first. Hey and that urethral tube will definitely keep my urethra lined up for pee pee time...

    They ask which device is better, talk about how they can't fit into a smaller device, and even know for sure that that solid metal fully encased device is going to be the one because it's the only way to stop all stimulation from the outside world....

    Oh man, they made an order... but they are so cheap that they saved $5 by shipping it from China instead of New York, so now they are definitely going to wait three weeks to find out if it fits right.... Instead of getting it in two days....

    The truth is that most real people on here (including me) except @Vinny have no idea what they are doing. That guy has been around the block. I would have done just about anything to live the sex life he's had.... Literally all of his life... Even now his wife is probably edging him while telling him it's going to be three more months and talking about how great the neighbor lady's rack is and discussing the possibility of another polyamorous relationship (Girl Girl Guy if you know what I mean). Phew... Vinny my hat's off to you bub...

    My advice comes from months of set up... convincing my wife slowly that I wanted to control my masturbation... Without a device... Proving that I'm a better partner when I'm not spanking my monkey four times a day... Giving up porn so I can focus on reality... Because porn creates expectations that she can never achieve... trying a device that is too small... Trying a device that is bigger... Trying a small base ring for daytime use and a bigger one for night time... Getting used to dealing with the minor issues, like when you can and can't wear it, and how to deal with knowing that your semi erection isn't going to allow all of your pee out just yet.... So you get a surprise wet spot three minutes after you leave the bathroom.... Figuring out that, not masturbating for 7-10 days is unbearable, but then it gets easier... knowing that if I pee just before I poop, I can milk my own prostate from inside my body a little when I push (that's a cool trick)... Dealing with the pee spray when I'm not lined up which is all the time... Knowing that my solid metal device is too heavy so I had to come up with a support solution (Paracord)... Realizing that my smaller a275 is so comfortable and snug that It can be used for daytime pretty much any time women in front of me aren't in bikini's...

    The truth is you are going to have some real tough times ahead. Some days you may say, "Phew, this just isn't worth it." and on those days take off the device... I keep my keys on my night stand because I still don't know if I'm going to be able to make it through the night because of night time erections... I like getting turned on, but now I'm learning how to deal with lack of comfort while achieving a goal...

    I know at the end of the day that all of this is just for fun... It's just for the experience... I know that there are going to be times when after 14 days of chastity, my wife tells me (instead of asking me) to rub her feet, I'm going to "O" in my pants a little... She's going to see the look on my face, know what happened and expect me to keep rubbing her feet instead of changing my underwear... Because I told her that, "Her pleasure comes before my comfort" and "In our bedroom, she has the ultimate authority and I will never tell her no"

    My plan is to keep this up as long as it's fun... Or funny... I don't know... Both seem like good enough reasons to keep doing this...

    I don't think any of my friends can say that they haven't masturbated in a month... It's a pretty good goal... I did it without a device too... Now that I have one, and different size rings, I guess I could go as long as my wife tells me too... It's the 7-10 day mark that's the worst for me though...

    Just saying... It's never perfect, It's never completely comfortable... There is no perfect device... You are going to deal with pee spray... Don't stick things in your pee pee hole (like urethral tubes) and.... Umm... Don't give up... Unless you get a rash or a sore, or smell like pee... Then give up...

    Unless you are into that... I'm not going to judge...
     
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    Macmagna,

    Thank you for all the useful information here and it all makes sense. Like I said, I have learned a lot from this and I actually was looking at other pages about fitting yourself to the right cages and getting used to it and a lot of the stuff you said is true on those websites as well. I am actually having a hard time making it through the night just from the excitement of waiting to get it.

    I am glad to know that my body will adjust to it naturally and not to give up because it will get better. It is also makes me feel comfortable to know that even when my urethra is partially blocked by a bar because it turned left a bit, I can still go pee without getting a urinary infection.

    Part of my main issue in this post was worrying about if I would experience the rare excruciating pain of pee building up inside the urethra (because it was partially blocked as I forgot to check to see if my penis was straight and not off-centered by 1.5mm) as it would probably feel like a urinary tract with harmful results. I hope I automatically spray pee all the time when I forget to check the alignment in the middle of the night; it would be embarrassing to tell the doctor why my urethra is injured. You can tell that I was very nervous and worried about this issue and why I didn't get the 70mm closed shaft because of the small end-hole.

    My new goal is not to masturbate and I know this device will help a lot to achieve my goal. The only other issue is that I do not have a wife as I am a single guy living on my own. Therefore, I have no true accountability and I could easily get tempted once I take it off to clean it. If you remember, I only wanted to use it 8 hours during each night during my sleep time so I would not have wet dreams. This also makes sense on why I kept going for the bigger devices and kept getting confused (and everybody else here confused) on all the details of chastity and why many of my own beliefs were incorrect.

    I didn't truly know what chastity was and I did not want any pain because I only wanted a large device to wear in bed so my erect penis would stay inside the cage and not get blocked. Well, all of that change once I started wearing the steel one because I enjoy the unqiue sensation of my top of my penis head being lightly pressed by the steel.

    I now know why it is a fetish as I am too impatient to wait. I feel like I just want to purchase the device tonight with my credit card today and get it over with knowing it will arrive in 5 business days instead of waiting longer. This could be capable if the transaction in the bank account log would not list the seller's name "sexlover" in the description. This is one of the things I hate about eBay. I share my account with my parents. That is why I have to be very sneaky with prepaid cards even though I do have my own credit card. They have no idea I'm even doing this.

    Well, I could go on forever. Thank you very much once again and I now feel more confident.
     
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    1. Get your own bank account with a debit card. Most accounts cost about $200 to set up and then you are in business. You already have an email address so this should be a no brainer... Or... You could always tell your mom that you ordered a chastity device to stop masturbating all over her house and ask her to be your keyholder.... LOL. I'm sure she would agree to not have your spunk all over her linens and socks. Oooh this is getting super hot... She would totally agree if you asked her while holding a pair of her dirty panties in one hand and your rock hard junk the other... Is your mom hot? I'm going to have to revisit Shakespear and the story of Oedepus... Hey... I've got issues...

    2. A device isn't going to prevent wet dreams. Once your prostate gets full any random thought will contract the muscles around it and cause you to have an accident in your pants... Besides wet dreams are half of the goal... You see, you will wake up to a mess and confused by how it happened. Dreams are so fleeting that you won't even remember the dream or thought that caused it... Total worst ruined orgasms ever.... If that's what you are into.. The device won't stop nocturnal emissions.
     
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    Ahem - while it has been reported that Macmagma's point 1. above moves into incest territory it should be clear to all of you dear readers (at least I would hope that it is) that this is just a fantasy of his and not a real suggestion. Apart from the getting your own bank account bit. That seems sensible.

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    I do you have my own bank account with a credit card but I use it for work, bills, taxes, transportation, and food. Too personal to explain, but when buying sexual things online, I like to be discreet.

    Everybody has thier issues. I truly agree that nocturnal emmisions are more intense when compared to jerking although they are messier. The arousing pain from the cage when fully erect might ruin it for me though, but I will find out when it happens.

    The good news is, I contacted VISA one more time and the refund will come in sooner...by this Friday - Monday!
     
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    Breaking New: There is a high change that joshers2005 truly doesn't know his flaccid penis size yet although he thinks he does.

    Yep, I still never measured my flaccid size range correctly. I believe you understand this by now as I do. I did more research on multiple websites and found out there is no exact flaccid measurement for the human penis as it changes in length throughout the day...and this is why I am getting so confused and why I am stating all this incorrect information without knowing. I first stated my flaccid size as 105mm when I measured it on paper drawing it. I had so many measurements on the diagram so I might have selected the wrong one. Then I proved my flaccid size to be 84mm for a while when i noticed it was barely touching the 90th millimeter. Was I exeggerating? I don't even know or care anymore because that is still an incorrect way to measure it. I could have be 82mm or it could have been 87mm from looking at the sight without a real ruler at hand. Finally, I followed this procedure below and I was very surprised with my final results. Here is the article with my results and some feedback below:

    Measuring for the Cage Length:
    The length of the cage is somewhat important. Ideally you want a cage that is just long enough to allow the tip of your penis to come to rest at the end of the cage. If your cage is too small, it could make you feel like your penis is being constantly “held back” inside the body a little, your glans may bulge uncomfortably through the end hole, or your penis may bunch up towards the base. For uncircumcised males, the foreskin may protrude from the end of the device and get pinched. A cage that is too long will not cause any major issues, but it could cause urine to get splashed inside the device, which builds up moisture and odour.

    To measure the length of your penis for a chastity device, you can take a ruler and place it on the underside of your flaccid penis, measuring from tip to base. Do not press the ruler into your scrotum, as this will give you an incorrect measurement. Just allow the ruler to make contact with the skin there. You should be completely flaccid when taking this measurement, but not the “retracted inside the body because it’s cold or scared” type of flaccid. For accurate results, take this measurement several times throughout the day, to find your most common length (63.5mm for joshers2005). When you have found your measurement, deduct a ¼ to a ½ inch off (approx. 10 mm off) the final results and this will be your ideal length for a cage(55mm cage for joshers2005?? What the ...? This is almost the same size as the cheap HT2 replica which put too much pressure and tightness on me to the point where my head had a red mark near the pee-hole and as if somebody grabbed my penis and squeezed it hard; my penis was sore with pain that didn't go away until the next day).

    It says my flaccid size is 63mm now. I measured my flaccid as 84for a while as it was 4-6 mm away from the end bars of the 90mm cage. I could be wrong and it could be something like 75mm So what is it then? 63mm, 75mm, 84mm. I feel like giving up. I can't make up my mind. This week I was excited to order the 60mm cage and now I want to wait and find one that is the right size. Sissybitch is helping me out, with this but you could bring some feedback as well. I looked at photos from the site and I now see the the cage and ring often slip dip down a but not as much as mine did. I am waiting patently for the right purchase even though the device will not be perfect.
     
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    The pain you were having could have been from the sharp edges on the inside of the device rather than the pressure. Almost all devices have some kind of issue that you have to fix.
     
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    Thank you for letting me know about that; it does make sense. Also, from what I remember, I destroyed the end of the plastic cage because I wanted my head to stick out longer... I am now thinking that the shape that supposed to imitate a penis head was not a good idea for me, which explains why the end cap the steel cage is perfect in my opinion.

    Once again, I have a bad short-term memory, so I could be wrong.

    I want to let you know that because I have been measuring my flaccid size incorrectly, I might be 2+ inches while you are still 3+ inches. After looking at a lot of other pictures, I see that it is common for the ring+cage to move a bit depending on how hard the penis is. Therefore, measuring my flaccid penis by comparing the length of the cage is wrong. So now, if I really am an entire inch shorter that I thought I was when flaccid, is 60mm still a good choice?
     
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    Wow! One of these is correct...but which one? I have seen it 1/8" longer or a 1/8" within the past few hours.

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    I am starting from scratch today.
     
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    please it don't matter really cos after you been locked up in the cage for a bit your willy will go shorter anyways.
     
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    I want to let you know two good things:

    1. I worked with somebody who really helped me through and we finally found my true flaccid size and the right device. It is 76mm or 3".
    2. I ordered the right device and it should be at my place within 5-6 business days. It is a 60mm cage/78mm device (all steel 3rd party devices from China are not exact when it comes to sizes). 1/8th or 1/6th of an inch off should make no difference what so ever.

    If I find the 60mm cage/78mm device too large, I will get a 50mm cage/68mm device as I left left over money in my VISA card. It will be 8mm shorter from my flaccid size, which would work out perfectly and I will no go any shorter than that.

    I hope this helps me from changing my mind and over-thinking.
     
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    Hey, I wanted to share some great news for you all as I do not believe this is overthinking:

    I have been measuring from the side of my body and not right above the shaft. I totally forgot there is a 3/8" (9mm) dip in my body as the ring is designed to match that dip. As a result, my flaccid size is actually 9mm more, now making it 85mm (76 + 9 = 85) or 3 3/8". Remember when I kept saying my flaccid size was approx. 86mm when I had the 90mm cage locked on? Well, I was right before hand! Heck yeah! Here is a photo showing approximate details (with my penis the most flaccid it could be within the wide range I have been monitoring; I never seen it go any softer):

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    You can see the the tape measure was about an inch up, but I still believe it is accurate. It took me a while to make this photo.

    As a result, the 78mm device will be 9mm (3/8") shorter in a great way. It looks like it will be snug in the device but don't forget the the device could slip down on the shaft around 4mm on the shaft at first (as I notice in other photos of people using similar metal cages). You were all correct in the first place when saying the previous 90mm cage was too long and this cage will be the right size. Some members here have told me:"the tighter it is, the better fit it is".

    Well, now I am excited about this cage and I will let you know if there are any issues. Thanks for the help!
     
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    Although the penis and the tape measure are level in terms of the 1/2" above height, the yellow arrow is incorrect as I forgot to move it 1" more to the lower when I moved everything else to match the difference. Every measurement in the chart and in my comment might be 2-3mm more or less but what matters is that the 60mm cage/78mm device is a good fit for my penis.
     
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    I have a quick question,

    Because it is from China, will my new steel 60mm cage eventually rust if I often wear it during a warm bath? Somewhere in the description, it says it is not nickel or chrome but stainless steal. At the same time, somebody told me that you can boil such steel cages, but I am note sure if they were talking about the Chinese devices.
     
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    Love your enthusiasm but overthinking is an understatement. You guess the approximate size, if it is too small buy a larger one, too big buy a smaller one. They are less than 30 bucks so you can make a few mistakes.

    That's it. This kinda reminds me of taking a kid fishing and he keeps messing with his pole and checking it out. Patience, you have your whole life to NOT orgasm, you can NOT orgasm later.
     
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