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    #1 HouseboyForHer, Dec 31, 2022
    I love my Jailbird. I've lived in it comfortably, almost 24x365, for more than 2 years. But I had this nagging need to know if I could pull out.

    So last week I tried it. And I was HORRIFIED to see how easy it was not just to get my flaccid penis out of the tube and behind the ring, but also to put it back.

    I know the solution is to be a P.A., and I'm fine with that but my Wife so far has said NFW. I've looked around and there seems to be some talk about an "anit-pull-out" style cage, but I don't know what that is.

    So 2 questions.
    1. Can someone point me to an example of an "anti-pull-out" device or cage?
    2. What advice can people share for bringing a conservative wife (who does like me to be chaste) around to the idea of getting me pierced.
    3. (Or can someone point me to the thread where this has already been discussed ad nauseum?)
    Thank you any and all,
    Boy Toy
     
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    #2 sonhee, Jan 1, 2023
    1. Have a look at https://happy-marriage.neocities.org/device-table and filter for "security for unpierced men" (third checkbox). Although your mileage may vary.... it's not as safe as a piercing! I have a device with glans ring and can definitely pull out, it's just more difficult to get it back in again.

    2. I wish I knew!
     
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    #3 Littlejt1, Jan 1, 2023
    I used to wear a jailbird too and you can get them made with anti pullout pins, so contact William and see if you can get that added.

    Other than that a PA is the way…
     
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    #5 littleguy3, Jan 1, 2023
    I saw this linked on another thread. I don't know if Mature Metal could modify your device to support an accessory like this. It's similar to the anti-pullout on the Vice but located further back in the setup.

    I'm very happy with my Vice Mini but it's definitely not for everyone. I needed the security of the anti-pullout to protect myself from myself! LOL
     
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    #6 Bry248, Jan 1, 2023
    The PA piercing isn’t bad and healing seems fair for me in that it doesn’t hurt afterwards. Only some discomfort here and there.
    Just pierced 2 days ago. The only big things is no sex or masterbation for about 12wks. Then you need significant time 6 months or more until you can stretch to larger pin size. So using a PA cage isn’t going to be a quick solution, but long term it’s the most secure that I can imagine.
     
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    #7 Chaz69, Jan 1, 2023
    If a PA isn't an option, and you want more security, look into cages with a glans ring, also called an anti-pullout ring.
     
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    #8 madams-sissysub, Jan 1, 2023
    Another vote for pins/spikes here, there a great help!
     
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    #9 HouseboyForHer, Jan 1, 2023
    I am very thankful to you all - this community is so full of wonderful, helpful people. Thank you!
     
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    #10 HouseboyForHer, Jan 2, 2023
    Interesting. I would imagine they would hurt a lot in the middle of the night when I get as hard as I can because my bladder is full.

    Is the cage harder to put on with these additions?

    Do you have a link or a picture? I'm curious how severe they are, where they are affixed.

    Thank you!
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    #11 HouseboyForHer, Jan 2, 2023
    Thank you, your post is very helpful. Very informative!

    That is a daunting road to travel. I will search other options because you informed me so well.

    boy toy
     
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    #12 Littlejt1, Jan 2, 2023
    Got to MatureMetal.com and see the “punishment pins” link under accessories… looks like this when installed
     

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    #13 Lazlo Toth, Jan 2, 2023
    There’s also a school that says (me included) that chastity is an illusion. You either accept the ILLUSION that you can’t masturbate or you don’t.

    Example, Even locked you can vibrate your cage or lube it up and make a de facto flesh light out of it. NO device is 100%.

    The question then becomes, what if you get a piercing and discover you can cum in the cage via vibration? When will it stop?

    Meanwhile, I hear ya. Good luck. But the best answer is your attitude rather than tech.
     
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    #14 littleguy3, Jan 2, 2023
    I agree with you in part. But tech can make it far more difficult to achieve. In my experimentation prior to starting my journey with D, I had limited success...
    I was caged for a period of 5-6 weeks in 2021 and tried to vibrate myself to an O in the cage multiple times and was only successful on one occasion. It was really hard to find the sweet spot.
    I did this successfully a few times but ended up with a lot of chafing. If I was doing that now, I think my wife would catch on quickly. And I don't know that I could be successful with the anti-pullout in my Vice Mini.

    But having a KH and vibrant intimacy in our relationship does give me "the attitude" you speak of that makes the biggest difference.
     
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    #15 Lazlo Toth, Jan 2, 2023
    As they say, locks were meant to keep honest persons honest.
     
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    #17 cogman, Jan 2, 2023
    second for the tether spout, please see gallery, I use it with the steelheart 2, After a bit of messing around I cant even tell its in there...except I cant pull out.

    During sex it stays in but I put a very smooth screw cap on it which limits the amount of mess I make when I am told to cum inside...in fact my partner almost insists.

    If you look at my gallery you can see how it works.

    There is also an extensive thread on using it with a looker 2 cage here

    https://www.chastitymansion.com/forums/index.php?threads/looker-2-with-tetherspout.35937/
     
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    #18 Servus, Jan 2, 2023
    This is absolute right. Since my lady and then me including the kids have been ill the last weeks and nothing, really nothing happened here in our sexlife i got so horny like i havent been long time.

    I have to tell that my lady and I spoke about our older getting bodies, the likelyhood of loosing musclemass and gaining fat, the increasing risk of falling and breaking some bones and that we should do something to stay half way attractive.
    So we started to got to the gym. For her I have to goal to show her how to become a musclequeen ( yes it is somehow topping from the bottom and maybe insultig) and me to become the bulky mid40 slavehousehusband.
    I love muscular women. It makes me horny to watch them and if I then combine these thoughts with my chastity and my dominant woman...
    And of course this increased my testosterone and made me horny as...
    She was ill and still suffered from her cough.
    So I had to do something. I took the magic wand and only wanted to edge me. But somehow... Everybody knows it is addictive. Strongly addictive.
    Of course I got over the ponr. I managed to ruin an orgasm but I cheated my chastity with it.

    Well there is no security in normal cages. But I heard about a belt which keeps a additional cage inside to prevent vibing.
    Maybe this could also help pull out.
     
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    #19 HouseboyForHer, Jan 2, 2023
    This is wise and I agree. I have "experimented" twice with my Wife's Hitachi, and once I was able to tell I would have an orgasm if I wanted to (I stopped).

    Having thought about it for a week or so, I think I've arrived at the crux: Yes, an "orgasm" is possible in any device, but it is the elimination of erections that really hits me in my submissive gut. If I can't get an erection, then I can't stroke. And if I can't stroke (or thrust, or...) than it's not a real orgasm. At that point, getting an in-the-cage orgasm seems to be both cheating and meh.
     
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    #20 HouseboyForHer, Jan 2, 2023
    Ok, you've got me. I think I have at least average intelligence, but I have no idea how that works. (The link at BAWR (http://tetheredchastity.blogspot.com) to the a blogspot post explaining it is broken.)

    How does a urethral tube stop me from pulling out? And what good does a lock through the tube, external to the cage, do? Can't I just pull the tube out? Clearly I am missing something. Sorry!!
     
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    #21 Chaz69, Jan 2, 2023
    That link is still working, but you do need to click on a box saying that you're ok viewing sensitive content in order to get to it.

    I've never used one, and they did puzzle me for ages too, but here's how I understand that it works.

    If you look at the photo below, focus on the two parts in the middle, where one looks like a washer (on the left) and one looks a bit like a bullet (on the right). The bullet has a ridge on one end and a hole through it on the other. You're supposed to thread some dental floss through the hole, then you insert the bullet, ridge end first, into your urethra. Once it's push all the way in, you thread the dental floss through the hole in the washer and slide that into your urethra also, you slide it in while it's in a horizontal position. There's a certain spot where you stop, then you pull the bullet piece back out, this forces the washer into a vertical position as the bullet passes through it. The ridge on the bottom of the bullet will prevent it from being able to completely pass through the washer, and thus, it becomes locked in place. You then remove the dental floss and place some sort of locking mechanism through the hole in the bullet.

    Like I said, I've never done this myself, so someone else may correct some of what I wrote, but I think I got the general idea down.

    tether.jpg
     
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    #24 HouseboyForHer, Jan 2, 2023
    So the mechanism's key feature is that, once the washer-like thing is over the tube, the assembly's diameter is too large to remove. And the lock or similar at the distal end keeps the assembly close to the end of the cage. Interesting. Very interesting. Thank you!!
     
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    #25 NowIveDoneIt, Jan 2, 2023
    That made my stomach turn.
     
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