Looker 2 with tetherspout

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    I actually own 2 x looker 2 one larger one with the permanent urethral insert and the other short cage with a removable one.

    Was wondering if anyone had tried a tether spout with a looker 2 and if the thread on the tether was compatible with the thread inside the looker 2? they both use 6mm barrel so i am thinking the threads probably will work.

    Having had both lookers for years...they are great devices and still look as good as the day I bought them, every few months Ill give them a good clean in a ultrasonic cleaner :)

    I have always thought however if i pulled down hard enough on the cage i might be able to pop the cock out of the back of it despite the insert although I doubt i could get it back on maybe...and recently mistress has been threatening to make me wear the shorter cage, because you cant grab the flesh like u can with the longer on. That is when I am not wearing the pictured full belt.

    With a tether spout it would be a truly irremovable device, although it would take ages to get on and off, which I doubt mistress would worry about considering the cock doesn't come out that often.
     
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    Oh well I will find out soon enough, I just ordered the tether spout system. Assuming I can make it work, mistress intends to mark the thread with some nail polish as her seal, although he thread requires a specialist tool to unscrew so even if i had the key to the cage I wouldn't be able to get the tether spout out hence unattached the cage part of the device

    Ill let u know how it goes with pictures
     
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    You know, in my desperation to find something that would hold me in, I ordered a teatherspout.

    2 days before it arrived, a guy on fetlife posted that he had messed up, the floss he was using broke and the metal tube part went too far down his urethra and he couldn't get it back up. Had to go to a urologist. It was still where they could get to it and pull it out.

    that's the only horror story I've read about them. But, still, I never got up the nerve to try it after reading it.

    Do keep us posted!
     
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    Yes, I have made sure I ordered the magnetic ones...as well as a tube magnet that can slide up in there on the end of a plastic tube and grab them. I am so used to having a insert in there I don't even feel it any more...still the first time putting it in is going to be a bit of a head trip.

    I think I will try inserting it with the magnet and make sure i can move it in and out reasonably freely before i try putting the retainer in. The bulb on the looker 2 is 8mm which is the same as the spout and it goes in and out with no resistance so i think the magnet on the end of a tube will be easy.
     
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    well delivery was quick...I confirm the thread is compatible with the looker 2, I cant test anything however because I am currently locked in it, but the spout screws into the lock nut on the end of the looker 2 insert. The spout will go in find but jez the retainers look big....but when i measure the circumference of the retainer on its side it will go in...but when its flat its huge, no wonder it wont come out ill just be amazed if i am that elastic inside.

    Anyway Mistress wants to supervise so ill have to wait...but its probably going to be a lot of stuffing around.

    Mistress does like the idea of the stainless steel cap nut that will prevent cum from coming out because i doubt there will be much leakage past the retainer when its flat. I have a feeling this will end up being permanently in me.
     
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    Eager to hear the results
     
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    Well it works. I have put pics up in an album, Hope they get approved.

    Putting the bits inside your cock and getting them out is easy...particularly with a magnet and a tube. Actually the magnet is a bit too strong and "snapped" the spout to it and pinched me a bit.

    There is zero chance in loosing stuff in there at least for me.

    But jez I dicked around trying to get the spout to mate with the tether about about an hour before i finally got it. After all that messing around I must admit I was pretty sore. Turns out the widening inside is a lot deeper than i thought. Also I used a thin piece of cotton in combination to the FAQ on the tether spout page to help pull the spout through the retainer.

    Once I finally did it I discovered the spout I used was way too short...the tip of the cock would be jammed up uncomfortably into the looker 2. Once I knew what I was doing it only took 5 minutes to replace it with the longest spout.

    You can actually pull on the spout quite hard before it hurts, but I found to wear it comfortable you HAVE to have a bit of slack in there...although its only been in there for a few hours....Mistress has left me access to the key in case I have to take it off, but i think its ok.

    It was also challenging to align the spout with the thread in the looker 2.I did not end up using the safety pin...rather the supplied hex key worked ok. I was initially worried about puting the looker base ring on with the spout in there but using a stocking was fine no issues.

    The result is, well you cant pull you cock out at all, in fact the head of the cock is trapped in the dome of the looker 2. leaning forward while seated, you can feel the retainer pulling...and it does end up aching a bit like it is now as I type this.

    Ill see how i am in the morning...but its throbbing a bit right now but ...that said I did mess with it for ages...it might need to settle down a bit.
     
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    im so curious, ive never heard of this!
     
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    I have been aware of them for years, I even made a suggestion to the guy, but he is not that receptive. But the service was first class, had them in under a week and they came from the USA to Australia.

    I have wanted to try them for ages, but mistress and I had a very long break from Chastity play, but this time she is treating it very seriously,,,which encouraged me to order them and try them, there seemed no point before.

    I no longer have access to the keys as I closed our electronic vault today, mistress has to generate a code on her phone before I can access any keys or tools.

    It still aches a but but not enough to bother me. It is a very different feeling to just having the urethral insert in there because the cock cant move the, the most I can pull the cock head back from the cap of the looker 2 is about 3 mm. This obviously means you absolutely can not pull out and it also pretty much circumvents putting fingers in there and tickling under your frenum which i find the best place to tickle for arousal.

    It does immobilize the cock in the cage.

    Having being denied for near 2 weeks, I am curious if I will get out this week. I am also curious if mistress will want to use the cum cap or will she get me to remove the tether. Then again I might not get let out at all. The cum cap will be interesting to see if there is leakage past the retainer.....anyways Mistress seems to be in a good mood so I am forever hopeful. Last week it took me 2-3 days to get over the paddling and the butt reaming she gave me with her feeldo
     
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    I am both curious and terrified by this idea. It seems like the perfect way to eliminate the pull-out problem that plague almost all cages. The fact it doesn't require a piercing with the associated healing, stretching and permanent changes is a huge plus point.

    That said, I can't see how this thing actually works safely. You are basically poking a metal tube well into your urethra, following that with a metal flange of sorts and somehow manipulatimg them, inside the urethra, such that the flange slides over the tube.

    The risks to me are :
    Losing the tube inside the urethra. If that floss/string slips or breaks that tube is gone and you're on your way to A&E. It seems to me this is inevitably going to happen sooner or later so unless theres a way I don't know to retrieve lost bits it's pretty much a show-stopper.

    Irritation. Surely the presency of a steel tube & ring inside the urethra causes irritation after a time?

    Infection. Isn't there a considerable risk of infection from putting something into the urethra and leaving it there for an extended period? Just how far in does it go?

    Getting it stuck. How on earth do you get it back out when you're free? Isn't there a risk of the retainer getting stuck to the tube?

    I'm genuinely curious, true security without a belt or piercing is something I've been looking for for a very long time.
     
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    It is not for the faint of heart. I was quite determined I must admit. But its been in there now for 4 days with no problems but I am used to the looker 2 insert being in there almost permanently and I have never had an issue with that. Its settled down now and I can barely feel it in there except when I lean forward seated and it pulls on the retainer. Infection? well the looker 2 urethral tube is a LOT longer than a spout and I have never had an issue there. The looker 2 insert is 75mm long compared to the spout that is 24mm

    Mistress came over last night and she was curious to see how the cum cap worked so following the mandatory spanking I masturbated to orgasm. The orgasm felt normal until I had spurted a few times then the pressure hurt quite a lot, there was a very small amount of leakage, but it hurt until I took the cap off and i ended up with a hand full of cum in my hand...so that mission was successful although I was disappointed that it hurt, which kind of ruined it, some mistress will find that a good thing, I can also screw on the normal looker 2 end which will allow for normal sex..I prefer that option in the future but its not up to me.

    To be honest as long as you order the magnetic retainers and spout there is no way you can loose them in there...that said I found it very easy to manipulate them back out simply by squeezing them out. I also bought the small tube magnet and secured it in a vinyl tube. The tube can be threaded down the urethra and retrieve the objects no matter how deep they are.

    Its a hell of a lot easier to get them out than in and aligned. It took me an hour of messing about to get it to work the first time and I admit it ended up being pretty sore after all that messing about. The second time took about 5 minutes once I knew what to do. The trick for me was to make sure I push the spout down far enough so the retainer can be brought into a flat position. I used the forceps to to find the hole on the retainer then push it down and make the retainer go flat then gently tug on the cotton attached to the spout..they eventually align and then it works...it was and is difficult, I guess it depends on how determined you are whether this is too much hassle or not.

    Also getting the spout to screw into the looker 2 cage was/is a LOT harder than I thought it would be...I think I have worked out a good method now....thin piece of cotton thread through ONE hole of the spout...then u can pull the spout towards the hole in the looker....the thread is so thin the hex key will fit in the hole and u can use the hex key to align and tighten the spout into the looker while the cotton thread keeps it forward (you cant use the hex key to pull the spout forward because it will slide out). The thread is small enough that it will go through the thread on the looker 2, once tight u can pull the cotton thread out of the hole because it is now protruding.

    Right now I don't envision having to remove the spout ever unless mistress wants me too...or if we stop playing Ill probably take it out. but taking it out is easy...you put the forceps into the spout and push down till its clear of the retainer...then squeeze the retainer out or use the magnet...then the spout comes out easy.
     
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    Cogman is absolutely right in that anything you lose inside your urethra you can simply massage out. I'm speaking from experience.
    Also the urethra is designed to evacuate things from your body.

    Contra to popular belief; your urethra will not suck loose items up which will then lodge in your brain requiring A&E followed by dangerous surgery and a media story which will lose you your career and family.
    Nor will you contract life threatening or complicated UTIs from wearing a device with an insert.
    Unless its far too long.
     
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    I don’t know if the current spouts still have a lack of smoothness / mill marks on the inside of the spout. Like shown above.

    When a TetherSpout is used in a chastity system, it may stay in place in the wet urethra for many days or weeks at a time. In that context, the mill marks visible above could create a bacteria-friendly environment, as well as promote instances of pitting corrosion.

    Here are instructions on how to buff / polish the inside of the spout:

    http://tetheredchastity.blogspot.com/2015/10/polishing-shaft_17.html?zx=f566ca23778c180d
     
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    #14 cogman, Feb 12, 2020
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    Strange I been wearing the lookers for about 4 years and the only problem I ever had was a build up of crystallized urine, which the ultrasonic cleaner took care of every month or so. That said I don't think I could use your method to smooth the inside of the threaded tether because you would end up smoothing the hex key part which is used to tighten the spout. but under magnification the don't look too much different to the above perhaps a bit smoother.

    BTW i like your idea of using another spout to help turn the tether. I dont think I can use a threaded one for that but I might modify one of the shorter ones that I wont ever use for that purpose.

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    While I have never seen the urethral tube for the Looker, judging from the quality of Steelworxx products in general, I would hazard a guess that the inside finish of the tube is smooth and not rough.
     
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    You wont get any argument there, I have had both of the lookers I own for about 5 or 6 years and they still look the same as the day I bought them - shinny and new. I have owned the jailbird from mature metal and while a good product, not in the same league as steelworxx (and I have way way too many cheap Chinese shit knock offs). The titanium tubing would be drawn and not milled so you cant really compare but the bulb is sure polished smooth. The Looker insert does go in 75mm a lot deeper than the 24mm spout. Its a LOT easier to pee with the spout then the original looker insert. The bore size is visibly larger, and of course there is no leakage past the retainer where there is past the 8mm diameter bulb

    Isn't urine meant to be a good antiseptic anyway?

    Anyways i don't mind being a crash test dummy perhaps dummy being the operative word. I am just happy I could retrofit the looker with the threaded spout without any messing about.

    It has however rendered the other looker 2 obsolete as its tube is not removable.

    Day 5 and still no problems...and the cock feels and IS totally trapped.

    I would hate to think what would happen if I accidentally stripped the hex socket.
     
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    Update, Mistress decided to let me out for her pleasure and she told me we were going to use my gadget (ie cum cap). We had a good session, and Mistress could not feel the cap, and I was really enjoying the natural feeling.

    I was told to climax when she did, and I did, this time it didn't hurt at all although I could feel pressure, and indeed when I removed the cap there was a fair bit of cum waiting to get out.

    We think there was some leakage between the spout and the retainer, but it stopped 95% of it. Mistress likes this cum minimization. and id definitely prefer using the cap to using a condom obviously not for birth control lol

    After almost 2 weeks being there I cant really feel it any more except when I bend over and it pulls, but no discomfort at all.

    The only thing that remains hard to do is getting the screw started back int he cage. I hurt myself a by sticking the allen key in too far...but I am getting better at it.

    Mistress sees no reason to remove it.

    I am honestly surprised there is not more take up of these things as compared to a piercing, i am actually ok with getting a piercing but mistress wont have it.
     
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    After a month, mistress let me out for some action (cum cap in place of course).

    In the morning I thought I better take it out just case something untoward was happening in there.

    Came out very easily, although you have to be careful with the magnet, its a little too strong and it kind of yanked the retainer out so fast it did me a little minor injury that left me feeling i needed to leave it out for the day.

    Anyways 8 hours later after a ultrasonic clean a boiling (both the cage and other parts) its back in.

    There was really only a bit of grime on the thread the rest of the tether system seemed pretty free of anything really, still i don't think a monthly clean is bad.

    Only weird thing is the spout seems to sit a lot deeper inside this time...cant work that one out, i could actually do with a slightly longer spout...not sure if its swollen from the removal or not i guess i will find out in a few days if it loosens up.

    Also mistress has asked me to add some security to the device....a numbered tag, the cable passes through the holes in the spout making it impossible to remove without breaking the tag. The tag having a unique number and the cables passing back under the base ring. The cable tie holds the tag in place to stop it flopping about which would result in the cable eventually snapping from fatigue....even if i have keys i cant get it off. I tried to put this picture in my album but it wont let me delete images to replace them :(

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    Thank you for describing your experiences with the tether spout so thoroughly and honestly. Very interesting and educational. I especially appreciate hearing how well the magnetized retrieval process works. I have two Mature Metal devices and occasionally consider adding a tetherspout system, but I’d need a hex nut or something outside the end of the cage plus a cap and I think it would look a little jury-rigged, so have not tried anything yet.
     
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    Without professional equipment you can not really polish the inside, but if you really want to use it for long time wear that should be a must have to reduce the chance of an STI. Apart from that those I saw also hat still metal grains and oxidized metal in it - nothing you would want to have inside your penis.
    Get yourself some polishing paste and with a dremel you should get a passable result - just make sure you do not go too far inside so to damage the hex key part. And you would not have to smooth this part anyway as it already is smoothed...

    To the questions of scottishsubby: Yes, inserting anything inside your uretha inceases your risk of infection, but if you work as cleanly as possible this is not as dangerous as dilators, plugs or catheter as it does not go that far inside your uretha. Just make sure you have a good hygiene and to use a cap for the opening if you should wear it for an extended time.

    Do not use those neodyn magnets to remove your spouts unless you do not think you can not remove it any other way. As said they send very strong neodyn magnets and the risk of hurting yourself with them is too high considdering that removing the spouts without is really easy: Just use a pin without threads to push the pin used through the retainer further inside your penis. Remove the adittional pin.
    If you are afraid that you could loose the pin inside your uretha put an elastic rubber at the base of your penis.
    After pushing the pin further inside it is really easy to remove the pin and the retainer by "massaging" them outwithout any magnet !

    How to insert with the help of a second pin ? Easy and advisable to people new to this or if you would want to use more than 1 retainer on a pin. You have to use floss though to make it work. The picture shows how it should look like:

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    Insert the pin you want to use with the floss, insert the retainer, insert the second pin so you can still hold it and pull lightly at the floss. The second pin will help the retainer to go in the correct position. Moving slightly while pulling lightly will make the pin slip through the retainer so you can remove the helping pin and the floss. adding additional retainer after that would be somewhat more complicated.... ;)
     
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    Thanks for you input, although I havnt had any issues with the unpolished spout, urine is an excellent antiseptic, and after a month I did not see any grime build up. Despite that I did ultrasound clean it and boil everything. Indeed I have been using a device with a urethral insert that goes 5 times deeper for the last 5 years and never had an issue with infections.

    I dont really see a problem using the magnet on the end of a flexible tube. I have learnt to hold the tube gentle and when it grabs let the tube move rather than let the magnet pull whatever it is your retrieving sudenly, its a lot quicker and easier than working stuff out of course the spout has a cotton or floss thread on it always so that's never a issue.

    Your idea with using another spout for insertion is excellent. It made it a lot easier to turn the spout than using forceps
     
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    i have been playing around with inserts for a couple of years and only one time did i have some trouble and that was when i put a poor quality metal washer inside the cage to counter the cheese grater effect of a cross bar inside the cage.

    The metal was black in 2 days and i kept it there a week, i had heavy infection because of my own bad decisions:p it was cleared up in a day or 2 but still.

    wiht the churgical steel i havent had any problems for years,im using the tetherspout system wich has provided all the security a PA piercing does and it also doesnt go in further then a PA so it beats it everytime just because of the fact you can remove it.

    People seem to be keen on getting a piercing but the tetherspout is loaded with security issues it seems while there not much different in essence

    so far my record is i think 3.5 weeks in a looker02 modified with a cross bar to connect the tetherspout on and we didnt remove it because of issues this was without any removal at all ( looker02 is quit open in design so cleaning is not an issue)

    just my 2 cents;)
     
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    And a good 2 cents it is. that was only slightly under my time and I only removed it because I thought I should check on things. Ill probably still remove it monthly assuming I get let out of the cage, but a month is a record there for me as well ...but records are meant to be broken eeekkkk...that said just because its gets removed for cleaning doesn't mean ill get relief lol

    I dont quite understand what you mean by looker 2 modified by cross bar? I have one with a permanent urethral insert which is a larger cage in all which I cant use with the tether, the other is a shorter one with a removable one that has a M6 thread which the spout can screw straight into.
     
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    If you go to the thread tethered male chadtity has anyone tried this and on page 3 somewhere hallway down the page it shows a pic of the crossbar i had made
     
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    Wow what a excellent thread. I will read it in full later.

    Does your looker have a thread at the front of it? Actually that said if it were my longer looker 2 that had the thread it would not work with the tether as it would pull way too much.It would require a much longer spout. It works well with the short one because all i need is to wear jocks and it supports the weight of the cage,,,,as I have a very physical job on my feet, it needs support or it can get a bit sore by the end of the day.
     
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