Hot mess… surprise gone wrong.. maybe chastity is a bad idea!

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    Hi All,

    ok. So, I posted the surprise my wife with the absolute best intent of trying to introduce chastity as a way to build a stronger relationship ship with my wife and also include a little kink which I enjoy.

    the community stepped up and gave great advice. So, this week while my wife was away I purchased a CBX… I know it’s not best for long term, but I wanted to get a feel. Thinking I would wear it, remain chaste and be incredibly horny for when my wife returned….

    well… that 100% backfired, and I’m actually nervous I may have screwed up my ability to perform when she gets home Wednesday night.

    after being locked for a day and a half, I started playing at night and after lots of porn to “test” the chastity, that I’ve abstained from for a long time, and in frustration taking my wife’s magic wand… the result is a big mess and a ton of guilt, followed by a bit more porn and then I stopped.

    this morning I woke up, and said.. I will try one more time. I’ve now locked myself up and have placed the key in a timed lock box until she gets home.

    I will follow the advice from the community, and slowly talk and introduce chastity but I’m worried the thought and kink takes me down a rabbit hole I am trying to avoid..

    maybe the balance comes in if my wife is the key holder. Just posting this because I feel guilty, and wondering if others have experienced a similar difficult start.

    thank you,
    Shaun
     
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    Shaun,
    I think it's pretty normal to want to test the boundaries of the cage. When I first got my cage(s) I did the porn while caged thing to see what it was like. I actually started to like it a lot and went down that road for a while (seeing if I could orgasm in the cage just from mental stimulation). I think it's normal to want to drive your new car fast when you first get it. However, it is true that you also screwed up your intention to build up before your wife returns.

    That said, you can still start from now. You will see a lot of talk on CM about chastity with or without a cage and what it all means. I think there is a lot to it all.

    Today, I happen to hit 90 days porn free and my first full week of zero self stimulation. This is a first for both of those in over 35 years. All I can say is that it is a new way of living and you have to be fully resolved that is what you want. However, if your goal is to be as close as possible to your wife, I sincerely believe that quitting porn and masturbation is critical. I may be in the minority on here with that - I'm not sure.

    I will share that yesterday morning I was simply rubbing my wife's ass while laying in bed and I was so hard that it almost hurt. Today, just resting my hand on her thigh got me hard. That was pretty different and pretty great.

    With my current milestone, I am at a point where I need to have another conversation with my wife about my chastity goals (although I am still not introducing the cage just yet). That all said, this whole thing is a marathon and not a race. I just wanted to give you a little inspiration for working toward going fully porn free and self-stimulation chaste in order to experience a different world on the other side. It's not easy but it is doable and worth it.
     
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    Currently, you don’t have a relationship with your wife in regards to chastity and so am confused by the level of guilt. Surely what you did was no more than borrowing her vibrator or trying out a new sex toy without her.
    When you have clarity about where she wants this to go, that’s when you can be concerned about the rights and wrongs of the situation.
    Would she currently have minded you climaxing without her? I doubt it.
     
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    Interesting observation, and I suppose there is a level of chastity without an actual device in our relationship. For some reason, my wife thought I never masturbated. When she thought I cheated, I said all I've ever done is watched porn and masturbated. This was really hard for her to except, and took months for her to forgive me. Now, when I masturbate or watch any porn I feel incredibly guilty. Almost as if I have cheated. The weird thing is... knowing how she feels about me masturbating or orgasming without her, I still don't know how she will feel about actually locking me.
     
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    Your wife clearly does not want you masturbating and you know it, but like many of us you are unable to stop and that's why you feel guilty. You need to confess to your wife that you are a masturbator and that you need the help of a chastity cage to stop, and that you want her to supervise the key. If she really doesn't want you masturbating and loves you she'll help.
     
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    I will add to this. I have tried to quit porn many times in my life. Almost all times had my wife in mind as a beneficiary of that goal. However, I failed again and again. I’m still at the start of my journey but I’ve made better progress this time than in all of the other times. The big difference this time is that my wife is now aware of my goal for the first time ever. This week I will discuss with her my goal to quit masturbation and I imagine that will also reinforce my ability to stay on course there too.

    The difference with you and me is that my wife’s issue is 100% porn and not so much masturbation. However there is a connection between the two and so I need to stop both. I need to discuss that with her. Your wife is already anti-masturbation so she may get on board with the cage faster
     
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    I completely concur. This is exactly what happened with me however my wife wasn't aware that I was masturbating. But once I told her and asked her to hold the key, she did so although she was very skeptical at first. Once you couple that with changed behavior, she'll be a very happy woman.
     
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    You are going to drive her insane if you can't last a couple of days.
     
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    My first and second attempt to chastity I read too many tumbler mems :/ Used the this will make our relationship and sex better :/

    Now my third attempt, I suggested the cage as a means not to have access to play alone. I explained to my wife how I want my sexual energy and emotions to be shared with her, I don’t want to have access to masturbate/orgasm outside of sharing that experience with.

    She seemed to agree to the cage after that. I have tried out many cages (like most on here) and I have been wearing the MM Jailbird for 4 days.

    You just got to keep it simple, there’s a lot of fantasies out there that your wife my not be ready for. I have heard suggestions sending her links, some if those overwhelmed me :)

    You want to stop the alone time :) I believe most women would be on board with that :)

    Yes, porn can hinder your relationship with your partner, some couples watch it together or don’t care. My wife sent me some sexy pictures, which I use as my wife porn :) maybe you have some or maybe your partner might be willing send some to you.
     
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    It’s weird. I never really thought of porn and masturbation as bad. I joined nofap a few years ago, and stopped. I immediately recognized the benefits and felt superhuman. Interestingly, I had already quit porn and masturbation for about a year when I confessed to Sarah that I used to watch porn and masturbate. She felt as though there were times in our marriage that I was absent.. and I suppose they were times where I was using porn more to offset stress, work, child birth hassles etc. I never felt I was absent but I suppose my wife had a different perspective.

    what I feel guilty about is, that by playing with chastity without my wife and then jumping back to porn … it was almost like old habits. Having a couple of days to process this now, I feel as though it’s not the porn per se, or even the masturbation but rather the fact it’s without my wife’s involvement.

    she is open to playing, and I know she had a wilder side. I just need to man up and have the conversation. Communication is key, and if I’m doing this behind her back. Then there’s no communication. Even with chastity, you still need to choose to abstain from porn. Else you can just keep gooning for longer. Not my objective.

    I bought my wife the necklace, and she returns home from vacation tomorrow. I plan to take her on a date night this weekend and have proper play time. I have been doing little things subconsciously like preventing myself from cumming until she does, and have been spending more time with my tongue and building her confidence. Sarah has asked, why am I stopping myself, and why do I like using my tongue. I’ve just answered that I get pleasure from making her happy.

    I will give her the jewelry, and also want her to read locked in love… it seems to really spell out the benefits and expectations. Then, see if she will play with it just for two weeks. If I’m prepared to do things for her, maybe she will do this just for two weeks. If it continues… great!

    this forum has been incredible. Real people, real advice. I’m very greatful. Assuming there’s interest, I will continue to share my progress. Hopefully accelerated.

    At some point, I may share some photos of us and try build friendships on this site if there are local couples like us.

    Shaun
     
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    Interesting that you say this. I was listening to a podcast this morning about this topic and they were discussing that even if you think your wife doesn't know, women can feel that something is off and that you are not completely there. It sounds like Sarah has that "gift." It's probably a good warning to anyone else on here that thinks their wife doesn't know about their habits. I completely understand your feeling of guilt - especially given that you have stayed fairly true to your word regarding PMO. This whole thing is tricky and even when we know our wives should be doing backflips when we introduce the idea of chastity and cages, the reality may prove very different based on their own ideas and perceptions of these things. I wish you the best of luck when she returns, and please continue to share. One of the best parts of this site is learning from people's successes (and failures). From what I have learned from others, communication, sincerity, vulnerability and patience are some of the most important things you need to move the ball on this.
     
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    Thank you. Wow, please share the link to the podcast. Yes, you are 100% correct. If there are men out their who have kinks, and keeping things from their wives you probably don't realize the harm you are causing, even though you may tell yourself everything is fine, or blame it on her or other influences. I can't explain it, and I'm sure there's a science behind it, or just a self fulfilling prophecy but it's almost inevitable that Sarah and I fight after I've done PMO. When things are good, there's this magnetic pull attracting us and when PMO has been done, the magnets repel. It takes a couple of days, and a really good sex session to put things into alignment. Now, I've never been one for dreams, but Sarah also seems to have bad dreams and nightmares when I've done PMO, and even though I am nowhere near her... it just happens. I can't explain it, and I don't want to.

    Another element that I need to put out there, and I don't know who will read this on our quite sub post. but ultimately everyone's goals should be building a stronger relationship. If that means, just having a conversation and either trying or not trying a kink allows you to be more open with one another. It should be a win. The outcome DOES not need to be a man in chastity, it needs to be a strong healthy relationship where you are both fulfilled.
     
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    Agreed
     
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