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    Why don't you watch both videos and then comment?

    She's not the only one to make the claim about ventilators, in summer 2020 I listened to an hour long podcast interview with a New York doctor who said the same thing.
     
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    CHINESE CORONAVIRUS = LIES & INCOMPETENCE
    • Lockdowns, social distancing, school and business closures, universal mask wearing, use of face shields and plastic barriers, travel restrictions, the use of PCR tests to diagnose infection, the choice of treatments and the safety and effectiveness of the Chinese Coronavirus jabs — all of these countermeasures were based on a combination of lies, fraud and/or willful ignorance;
    • Universal lockdowns have never before been used as a pandemic prevention measure, and for good reason - They don’t work. To prevent spread of infection, you isolate those who are actually sick. Healthy people cannot spread infection, so there’s no reason to isolate them;
    • The unemployment shock, being two to five times greater than the typical unemployment shock, will likely significantly increase mortality rates and lower life expectancy. The authors of the study estimate unemployment shock alone will translate into an additional 0.8 million premature deaths;
    • Social isolation has led to a significant increase in mental health problems, addiction disorders, overdose deaths, child abuse and domestic violence rates and suicide ideation rates among youth;
    • Lockdowns are at least five to 10 times more harmful to public health in terms of well-being years than the Chinese Coronavirus itself;
    • In Israel, an estimated 500,000 life-years have been lost to lockdowns due to income losses alone;
    • In England, an estimated 59, 204 to 63, 229 years of life will be lost to four common cancers due to delays in diagnosis during lockdowns;
    • An August 2020 analysis of Chinese Coronavirus surveillance data from the top 50 countries in terms of reported cases also concluded that border closures, lockdowns and wide-spread testing had no impact on Chinese Coronavirus mortality per million people. Another paper published in 2021 found lockdowns were actually associated with increases in excess mortality;
    • The absence of evidence to support mask wearing for infection control was confirmed from the very beginning by the same agencies and organizations that ended up recommending and/or mandating universal mask wearing;
    • To avoid making the same mistakes in future pandemics, medical crises must NOT be managed by means of emergency powers wielded by politicians punch-drunk on power. Emergency powers should be used only in case of war or a legitimate national or international emergency.
    See:
    https://media.mercola.com/ImageServer/Public/2023/February/PDF/growing-list-covid-lies-pdf.pdf

     
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    more evidence of risk from the vaccine!
     
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    Dr. John Campbell says he believes the Covid virus was known to exist in Wuhan on September 12, 2019, as this is the date the Wuhan virus database was taken offline. Which means people can't search the database for matches to the Covid 19 virus. It isn't proof, but certainly creates more questions than answers. I gather the database has never been placed back online. By now it would have been scrubbed of all possible incriminating evidence.

    The video mainly talks about there not being a 2nd attempt at locating the source of the virus. No animal origin has been found during the past three years.

    He is worried the next pandemic will be the result of a lab leak as well. I believe, there is an increased likelihood of this, given the number of labs doing gain of function research.

    wuhan database.jpg
    Video on Rumble

     
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    I can only recommend to read the article of professor wiesendanger on this topic.
    It is obvious what wwas going on there.
     
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    I am guessing you are referring to this study:

    Coronavirus Origin Study Released


    The linked to medical article is in German, but many of the medical articles included in the 105 document are in English.
     
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    Dr. John Campbell's latest video references a medical article that found mRNA was in the blood of 9% of the study subjects 28 days after receiving the vaccine. Far longer than what is stated in official vaccine websites, which I believe actual indicate the vaccine doesn't enter the blood supply, if injected into a muscle. If this mRNA is circulating through the heart, ovaries, etc, then some people may experience vaccine adverse events 4 weeks after receiving the vaccine.

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    The conversion of the vaccine RNA into the spike protein is suppose to happen at the site of the injection. "Translation" means conversion.

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    Video on Rumble: Vaccine mRNA found in blood after 20 days whereas the title of the YouTube video says 28 days.


     
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    Respectfully, there's a higher level of calculus here.
    mRNA is transmitted to infants in breast milk (assuming the infant is born).
    https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/st...ccinated-mothers-pass-antibodies-to-newborns/
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...cinated-women-s-breast-milk-study/ar-AA12kcwF

    https://yournews.com/2023/01/13/249...livestock-and-companion-animals-are-here-now/
    (Source not as reliable, but bolsters the two that SHOULD be acceptable.)

    But it gets worse - there are plans to make the "vaxxines" disseminate like a virus themselves.
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26524478/


    Now, consider a "fact check"
    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/fact-check-vaccines-given-animals-220315716.html


    And we can start tying things together...
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34687399/
    SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Disrupts Blood-Brain Barrier Integrity via RhoA Activation
    (Also articles about the spike protein being found in the liver.)

    And they used the HIV virus in making this mRNA virus - I.E., IT'S A FUCKING RETROVIRUS, and they lied from the start.

    So, we know we can't trust them.
    We know they lied about the transmission vectors.
    Lied about the treatments. Lied about the mRNA tech. Lied about which cells it resides in, months after the "vaxxination."
    They have been doing ILLEGAL "Gain of Function" bio-engineering, aka creating WMDs!!! And breaking multiple conventions and treaties along the way, as I understand, because you're not allowed to be doing this sort of bio-research BECAUSE of the risks.

    So, conclusion: We are being bio-engineered. Into what, I don't know. But the method is pretty clear, and the speakers cannot be trusted. Just put those two together, and you should be reaching for the pitchforks, torches, tar, and feathers.

    I'd even say it doesn't matter if it's planned, because i used to give benefit of the doubt - but I was reading this stuff over a decade ago, it's fun reading for me, and the details that emerged... Well, now everyone is seeing how well you can trust these people when millions, forget billions, are on the line - and some people would kill their mother to sell her gold teeth.

    We are not "evolving" fast enough for the powers that be. They'll corrupt the food, the water, the soil, the air, and make us disease vectors for their "vaccine" retroviral gene therapies.
    Which means INTENT no longer matters, we're facing a "Grey Goo" scenario (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_goo) - and please note, this is LITERALLY the plot of "Deus Ex" (Deus Ex Machina) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_Ex_(video_game)


    So this isn't just "some rando online" - it's an AMAZING similarity to things that were written about decades ago, in various ways. Outer Limits had an episode where a time-travelling ship brought humans to a post-apocalyptic world, where scientists had managed to make humans extinct through gene engineering. Like the South Park episode where they were transformed, Kyle to a "black kid" to play basketball, his Dad into a dolphin, Mr. Garretson (Spelling?) became a woman... Etc. In concept, though,we can go back to Iliad, and Circe, turning men into pigs. Literally. Or, Pinnochio, turning boys into jack asses.

    The concept isn't that far out, and while a planned conspiracy like Deus Ex is unlikely, a conspiracy of silence is LIKELY, as we've seen they just don't talk about their illegal research, or outsource it, and pretend their hands are clean...

    But we've been too domesticated for decades. No one will DO anything, we'll all just bitch and moan online, and the Elites get away with it, generation after generation. I asked Mary Jo Kopechne for comment, but the ouija board went silent...
    Or we could talk about Ruby Ridge, Waco, Bundy ranch - you get the idea. Or how Project Veritas "suspended" James O'Keefe (Founder) after he exposed what Pfizer has been doing. And it's not like Pfizer has been honest and trustworthy so far, anyway. (https://abcnews.go.com/Business/pfizer-fined-23-billion-illegal-marketing-off-label/story?id=8477617, https://projects.propublica.org/graphics/bigpharma)

    How to correct things, I don't know - everyone (else) seems to be on the same page, "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." More like, Evil seeks Tolerance until it is ascendant, then permits no tolerance of other views. News doesn't want quiet days (affects ad revenue.) Stock market talking heads are pumping the markets and prices all day long. Cops don't want to ignore crimes, especially things like tickets - low risk, high reward, they get "bonuses" for tickets. We won't even discuss Civil Asset Forfeiture.

    Point being, it is likely that there are people who KNOW a conspiracy of sorts, but don't talk about the dirty laundry, they ignore that, and make money in their ivory towers...
    And the people pretend all is fine...
     
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    I've noted this ambiguous terminology in the past, when people talk about risk of medical and animal (mosquito) experimentation:

    "Experts say there is little to no possibility of the mRNA vaccine entering the food supply through livestock."​


    They, knowingly, never use the word "no" alone, and never say "impossible." This covers their ass when something goes wrong, as then the lawyers can argue, they never said there was "no chance" or "never."

    What does "little" actually mean, when you vaccinate billions of people with an experimental vaccine that uses experimental technology?

    Car and plane manufacturers, and pharmaceutical companies, estimate what a person's life is worth if they accidentally kill them, versus the cost of fixing a known problem in their millions of cars and thousands of planes. Good Year tires, Max 8* jets, etc. The government does the same, performs a cost benefit analysis. Cost of cleaning up and managing a toxic chemical leak and explosion versus ignoring it.

    We only think in terms of $, but trust us! (I know our PR department says otherwise, but my paycheck is never large enough, nor that of the politicians who I own and our stock holders.)

    Pfizer shrugged off a 23 BILLION dollar fine, and congress removed all liability for vaccine safety. How much were politicians paid to pass this legislation? When the poo hits the fan over the vaccine, Trump will be blamed for it all, because "Warp Speed," began under his watch, by democrats and republicans.

    They didn't just cut out or expedite the red tape, they skipped critical testing steps, for a virus that while it would kill millions worldwide, had a 98% survivability rate. They, the media and politicians, focused on the deaths, and slandered anyone who did otherwise.

    The initial virus and infection was much more deadly than the current variants. Dr. Malone contracted it early on during his travels in February 2020, and it was kicking his ass until he self medicated and was better within several hours. (https://rumble.com/v28tsts-robert-malone-full.html (Beginning at 23:15 minutes))


    * The MAX 8 utilizes an inherently unstable air-frame design, which requires the application of a modification (Band Aid) to fix it. Thinking about it just now, we haven't heard anything about the aircraft lately, have we. If it hasn't already been, will be rebranded.

    "In November 2022, Boeing announced expected delays to the certification of the MAX 7 and MAX 10, now expected in early 2023 and early 2024 respectively.[107] In December, two proposals to exempt the MAX 7 and MAX 10 from the new requirements were considered for inclusion in a U.S. defense spending bill—one a simple two-year extension to the deadline, the second an exemption for aircraft whose certification applications were submitted before the law was enacted, combined with some equipment changes[108]—but neither proposal was included in the final spending bill.[109] In December 2022, the U.S. Congress agreed on a bill allowing Boeing to certify the MAX 7 and MAX 10 without EICAS, but it must install a third angle-of-attack sensor in all 737 MAX types as previously demanded by European and Canadian regulators. The company also must install a switch to disable the stick shaker, which distracted pilots during the MAX crashes. Boeing would have to retrofit these improvements to all 737 MAXs already delivered in Canada, Europe, and the U.S. within three years of MAX 10 certification.[110][111]"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_MAX
    So yes, your politicians are still for sale and easily, though not inexpensively, bought.
     
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    Yes right this is the mentioned study. It is more related on indicatives than on real scientific work but for me it is obvious that his theory is more propable than the other one.

    I read soemwhere that the WHO still isnt sure about the origin.
     
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    #4989 MtnViper, Feb 22, 2023
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    Time for my weekly data dump.

    First is All Cause and All Cause Excluding Covid-19 Deaths.

    Since the last update three weeks ago, 8,717 additional all cause deaths have been added to 2022.

    The CDC is estimating Non-Covid excess deaths for 2022 at 132,362. All cause excess deaths is estimated at 370,482. Percentage wise, the number of all cause deaths in 2022 equals that of 2020, at 1.01%. The Non-Covid excess deaths is estimated at more than double of 2021.

    excess deaths data 2 22 2023.jpg


    Next is Deaths by Age Group.

    My estimate for excess deaths for 2022, based on the trend in deaths from 2015 to 2019 projected out to 2022, is 305,966. There are fewer deaths included in this database than in the all cause database.

    age deaths 2 22 2023.jpg age deaths chart 1 2 22 2023.jpg

    This is a look at excess deaths, based on the average number of deaths from 2015 to 2019. It doesn't take into account changes in population or demographics. Still, based on the trend between 2015 to 2019, we see deaths are well above what would be expected.

    excess age deaths data 3 2 22 2023.jpg excess age deaths chart 3 2 22 2023.jpg

    This is look at deaths by age group, as a percentage of each age group's percentage of the total population. Persons 85+ are a small percentage of the population, so a larger percentage of them have died than is the case for other age groups.

    age deaths by percent pop data 2 22 2023.jpg age deaths by percent pop chart 2 22 2023.jpg

    This is a closer look at the above data, for ages 65 and over.

    age deaths 65 and over 2 22 2023.jpg

    This is a closer look at the above data, for ages 64 and under.

    age deaths 64 and under 2 22 2023.jpg


    I looked for information on deaths based on smaller sized age groups, but what I found so far was only up to 2021.
     
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    "Among the items sold were nearly 3,000 mechanical ventilators hailed by former New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio. The items—described for auction as “non-functioning medical equipment for scrap metal,” cost taxpayers $12 million, but were sold for just $24,600 last month."
     
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    It was so obviously a panicdemic.

    None of it was required. No lockdowns, no school closures, no masks, no vaccines, no vaccine mandates.
     
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    Nothing to be concerned with, all was bought with Monopoly money created out of thin air by the Federal Reserve bank(s). /s

    Well, it has resulted in the highest inflation since the 1980s. I've experienced 33-60% price increases, whereas the government will only admit to less than a third of it, and it was only transitory in their eyes.

    The Fed is now vaporizing trillions of that Monopoly money, which has already crashed the housing market. When the record number of housing units being built are completed, or cancelled, the real fun begins. As everything that will, or should have, filled those houses will no longer be needed.

    I'm hoping for a "soft landing," as the alternative isn't pretty.
     
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    HERE’S HOW THE FBI AND THE CDC TRACKED UNVAXXED NY SCHOOL TEACHERS

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    Hard to believe ... but it appears to be true!
     
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    For the exact same reasoning, I'm hoping for a hard landing. It will be global.
    But I've noticed humans never learn from the mistakes, they wrap it up in a shiny new PVC outfit, and try the same thing again.
    :sigh:
     
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    If you've read Dune, you recall the Bene Gesserit sisterhood was doing this very thing, for millennia before the book's time frame.
    Let us recall their purpose: To breed the superior bloodlines until the Perfect Human was created.

    Recall IRL when Dune is from: Gene engineering wasn't considered yet, not as we know it now. (Tleilaxu gene creations notwithstanding.) We are, in this thread, talking of ways the people in charge might enforce genetic modifications on people, without their knowing, in a pandemic scenario.
    And now we have the WHO (World Health Organization) poised to take over, based on existing treaties, I understand. (US signed, don't know about UK or others - but I'd guess they're signatories, too.)

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/biden...hority-over-us-pandemic-policies_5066631.html
    EDIT to add: Use Archive link, sorry.
    https://archive.is/qNwuA



    I know some people discard Epoch Times out of hand, but anyone who trusts MSM has terminal stupidity...

    Also, found this gem today when looking for links to demonstrate the point above:
    https://time.com/6256674/covid-19-affects-heart/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

    Suddenly, the "conspiratards" work at TIME magazine...?
     
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    #4997 MtnViper, Feb 23, 2023
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    Selective human breeding doesn't work, but genetic engineering may, at least all the clones will start out biologically the same. Just because eugenics failed initially doesn't mean some people haven't given up on the desired outcome.

    We humans for the most part are zombies, and this is the real reason why policing entities like Homeland Security have zombie apocalypse scenarios, which are truly NOT only for training purposes.

    Someone working for a government entity called a local talk radio show and as an aside to the main subject of the conversation, said they were busy preparing for a zombie apocalypse. This was at the very beginning of the pandemic. They weren't joking.

    We all wore masks because the sheeple would never leave their houses if they believed there was nothing they could do to fight against "the invisible enemy." AKA the devil and Republicans. ;-)

    The Epoch Times article reads like a conspiracy theory, except the government's response to the pandemic has proven it to be true, unless you are a sheeple who only listens to the "official narrative," which proves the conspiracy.

    Yes, I admit to being a zombie and sheeple most of my life, but I woke up. Which doesn't mean I mindlessly follow any believe.

    Humans don't like being held responsible for anything, when something goes wrong. Politicians by extension are the same, but amplified, as they don't want to be held responsible for anything bad come reelection time.

    They have as a result delegated away their authority, and as a result their responsibility. The cynical person that I am believe they were so self absorbed and dumb they didn't know their underlings were taking away all their power. You have to believe in the Deep State to believe that conspiracy theory.

    Recall the two primary branches of the US government were essentially reduced to Nancy Pelocy's, Mitch McConnel's, and the President's offices, and all other members of the congress and senate hid in their basements, except to vote yes on thousands of pages unread of legislation. That is just a conspiracy. This wasn't actually a true pandemic, just a dress rehearsal, to work the bugs out.

    We are already sliding down the slippery slope.

    If anyone didn't already believe Biden was a puppet only need to watch the video of the "air raid" in Ukraine, where no one, including the secret service, flinched when the sirens went off.

    At this point, Biden is a puppet of Zelenskyy, or at least whoever is controlling the two of them.

    As I have said before, be kind as long as possible.
     
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    AUTOPSIES CONFIRM THAT MRNA JU-JU JUICE REMAINS IN YOUR BODY FOR A LONG TIME - AND DOES BAD THINGS TO YOU

    From the CDC’s website (long since deleted because their lies were catching up to them):

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    • When the Chinese Coronavirus clot shots were first introduced, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention made several claims about them that have since been proven completely false, including the claim that the mRNA would remain in the injection site, and that both the mRNA and resulting spike protein would rapidly be eliminated from your body;
    • The mRNA goes everywhere and can remain intact for a month of more. Ditto for the spike protein your cells produce;
    • Spike protein has been found in the brains of people with encephalitis (brain inflammation) and in jab-induced shingles lesions. Both mRNA and spike protein have been found in lymph nodes more than 60 days post-jab. Full-length mRNA has also been shown to circulate in people’s blood for up to 28 days post-injection, and it’s been detected in breastmilk;
    • Research shows the primary difference between those who developed symptoms of myocarditis and those who didn’t was that symptomatic patients had markedly elevated levels of full-length spike protein unbound by antibodies in their plasma. Those who remained asymptomatic had no free spike protein in their blood. This would suggest that free-floating spike protein is a problem; and
    • Autopsies of two teenage boys found dead in their beds three and four days after their second dose of the Pfi$er clot shot concluded that jab-induced heart damage was to blame. The myocarditis described in these instances did not have the typical histopathology of myocarditis. Instead, both cases resemble catecholamine-induced injury, similar to the cytokine storm experienced in severe SARS-CoV-2 infection.
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    The New York Times admits the truth at last, yet they didn't do nothing, masks spread colds and viruses, children were forced to wear them for 7 hours a day, and psychologically damaged millions of people to the point where they’re still afraid to breathe in public.

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    Hello lucy.

    Today I had the time to watch the nurses video. I am not sure, what has been going on in this single hospital.
    As mentioned above I believe the healthsystem in the US is not the best in the world
    If it is true what she says, and the doctor you mentioned, there is a really big scandal going on. Treatment failures, negligent homicide, fraud and so on.
    It would be a story the police should take care of or I guess the FBI. I am not american so I dont know who is in charge for something like this.

    But I looked and looked and looked and couldnt find a single note on google that the elmhurst hospital has been sued or something else.
    I have to admit, that I, as a medical professional cant believe her story on all points. Or I have an explanation for her feelings and her interpretation of it.

    I already uncovered me as a healthcare worker in the acute traumacare of a hospital.
    I have been very sceptical against all the Corona hype all during the pandemic, maybe except the beginning, where also I panicked and did some precautions like piling up my usually excellent food and water storage and bying some ffp3 masks for my family and me. I already bought them in January when they still told us masks dont work.
    Hehe and I had some when the usual market was empty.

    First thing I did after recognizing my panick: I stopped to consume mainstream news and also alternative news.
    Because EVERYBODY on BITH sides wants to make some profits out of desasters and so on. It is like during a war:" The truth dies at first."
    I got my information by just reading scientific papers, which was quite interesting and wrote two scientific papers, one for my Bachelors degree about this issue.
    So I know really many facts about this virus from the early days on. Like pathology, pathophysiology, infection mechanism, evolution and so on. First show ups, possibilities of missmeasuring

    Some of this knowledge showed up as wrong and right.
    And the result was I never panicked anymore. My family called me conspirator and fact turner and so on. Even though I could easily show the origins of my knowledge.
    Several studies and the homepage of the Robert Koch institute.
    Fun fact has been that they didnt believe me, but were too lazy to take a look at the data and more enjoyed ot to livein their panick bubble.

    Well so I really went completely chilled to work in my ER. We had no covid patients regularly, because they have been triaged before their showup in our hospital. We were Coronafree.
    So I only saw two to three patients in the first wave, which have been severely ill. With severely I mean flulike. Flu is really a bad ass infection and can kill people.

    I also maybe had an infection of the chinese virus in these early days, but didnt recognize it. Only a blood test, which has been done by my GP and my Hospital showed positivity in Antibodies.

    How valid these have been I dont know - there are cross reactions to other coronaviruses which have similar Sproteins and also react with ACE2 receptors.

    So. As I mentioned I was chilled all the time though I havent seen any ill person with clear covid.

    My sister who works as ICU nurse saw those poor people all day long. Held their hands, tried to make their life better.
    You have to know, that if you come to an ICU it is NOT just like being ill somehow. You are prefinal and need special therapy only educated people can do - wrote this before already.
    She told me similar stories like this youtube nurse told. That there have been people who got better, also young guys, healthy without underlying conditions who just died. She was so confident because a young person could be siccessfully extubated ( more than the half, about 80 %, dies being ventilated). He got stronger and the next day she came back to work, he was already dead.
    WITHOUT being reintubated. These stories happened more often than she could handle it. She got really upset about it. Especially about me with my stories about how easigoing the virus mostly is.

    It is a matter of fhe sightangle.

    She has been surrounded by dead people, me not. Other people even didnt know a person that has been sick.
    They were extremely chilled and suspicious about the virus of course. Didnt believ all the news about the wuhan virus.

    But back to Erins story, which IF true is a scandal and should be told to the authorities. The hospitals have to document EVERYTHING believe me. EVERYTHING! Also in US.
    So the hospital will be full of truth.

    She tells stories about money and conspiracy into the highest rows of the healthsystem and the hospitalstaff.
    I can easily believe that. It is well known that psychopaths are mostly be found in leading positions and it is well known, they have an extreme lack of empathy.
    So I dont have problems with believing false orders.

    What I cant believe is this completely wrong illness management. I just read tha paper of anaesthetics in germany about this issue and how patients she described shoukd be taken care of.

    As I wrote in my former posting there are several stages of reoxygenisation, if there is a lack in oxygenisation.
    NO person with conscience and or liability would ever intubate a person at a saturation of 88 percent. Never. You first give O2 through a small tube, then you go to a positive pressurized respirator, which makes breathing morecomfortable and gives less stress as she described it.

    Only in the case of really bad situation of the lung tissue and ARDS you need an intubation which has to be indicated really carefully, because it can damage the lung tissue if admitted wrong.
    Due to the fibrosis, there is a special way to breathe those patients.

    You can clearly see these consolidations of the lung tissue in the ct scan or xrays.

    The whitened lungs arent mucus as she told - covid doesn't produce mucus in first order, only if a bacterial super infection occurs - the lung tissue cant expand and colaose properly anymore. This is why you need an closed overpressurized system.

    Another problem within covid patients has been silsnce hypoxaemia. Thode patients, not all, dont have respiratory distress even though their O2 is somewhere at 50 to 60. I have seen such a Patient myself. She just said she is tired and even couldnt move her arm. And in this case of course the CO2 level is high! Hypoxaemia and hyperkapnia.
    The virus destorys the O2 and CO2 receptors by docking on the ACE2 receptors again - same reason for loss of the sense of smell.

    My explanation for the mentioned really early placing of an endotracheal tubus would be such a silent hypoxaemia and maybe she mixed up the values for CO2 and O2, which can happen if you are in a distress. I mean the hospital she worked in was at about 250 % of its capacity! Thats a lot of patients.

    And I also dont believe they put healthy non covid people together with people with covid. Or and this could be also an explanation, the symptoms, laboratoey findings and radiology led to the conclusion they had covid - which in Germany and I guess international the same wasnt allowed. Only a positive test with several times was a reason for diagnosis. We even did a test procedure to exclude influenza. Positive tested for corona and negative for influenza has been the usual finding.

    About her comparision, which is really ridicoulius of ebola and corona. Ebola is a real killer with a deathrate of 50 percent or so? I is transmitted via Sweat amd other body fluids and can easily been uptaken. In comparison to the 3.5 cfr, for germany, in the beginning, which has been widely overestimated Coronavirus is a joke. The issue with corona has been that it easily spreads amongst people and doens tmake many of them sick. So they are carriers but not patients.

    At all I miss an opposing view, scientific input and more people, which are validating her story about this seemingly very, very special hospital.
    I mean, as it seems the other nurses are also very sceptic, if those are real nurses and I saw that she is fundraising and selling her story which makes me extremely sceptic.
    What if she just wanted to make advertisement for her book?
    What if she wants to use the fear and anger of antivaxxers and anticorona people - nothing against them by the way they mostly have my deepest respect - againdt the politics and conspiracy and so on to bring her own story further?

    And why the heck does she tell us, that her patient has been KILLED in the end?She said they killed him and put her to the side to kill him.
    If she really believes this, she is totally crazy.

    "The killer squadron of elmhurst."
    In the next winter in your local theater.

    Due to the british english I have some issues with the old GP in the other video.

    But it seems clear, that if there is the wave of an illness and the people are treated after a certain schema. The medicaments of this schema will also be sold in an following pattern.
     
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