Covid-19 and Life

For many months now I have noticed that I do NOT personally know anyone with Covid. Seemingly people were dying all around me--just no one I actually knew.

Now this is changing. I AM INDEED coming into contact with people I know personally who are afflicted with Covid. Guess what, EVERYONE of them are "vaccinated". (my brother, sister in law, close friend, his wife, et al) I know of their jab status--they've all hectored me about it.

Guess how many un-jabbed people do I know with Covid?

Zero.

(sure, this is anecdotal, but I was waiting for the day when my personal observations began to match what I have been reading)

 

I've lost a dear friend to covid, only a few days older than me, good guy healthy etc... Also had three friends in hospital on oxygen, one on machine support and given the last rites, fortunately he survived, all younger than me.

I guess your beliefs about it will be borne by your personal experiences.

 

Splendid. As always, follow the money.

 

If you did not know anybody with COVID in the past why should this change now?
Everybody either will get covid or will have to be vaccinated. Even with vaccination there is a chance of app. 5-10% that you get it. This are the people you mention.
With increasing number of vaccinated people the number of people getting it even with vaccination increases too. That’s statistics.
The difference is, that when people are vaccinated and get COVID they don‘t flood the ERs. Look to Alaska what’s happening there.

 

Dear Good,

You confuse statistics with an individual. I am not a statistic. I am an individual and thus MY experience (as I indicated in my post) is individual to me.

Yet, my inference shows that MY understanding of the often flawed statistics matches my experience.

So, please, when someone says "this is what I am seeing", either call them a liar or accept that their experience may be different than yours.

And, my brother--the vaccinated one--"flooded the ER".

 

Dear Laszlo,

for your individual situation I wish you the best.

g2f

 

Okay, I didn't want to sound superior, but just wanted to show where I was coming from in forming my opinions. I did study science full time at university for 5 years doing majors in maths and physics, inter alia. In that time I hardly ever touched a test tube or a bunsen burner, however, I did learn how to be objective in getting to the nitty gritty of problems.

The 0.2% death rate seems small and is easy to quote but, as of yesterday, it does represent more than 136,000 deaths in the UK alone, meaning a lot of anguish and grieving families and friends. I note more than 1 in 10 get covid in the UK so there will be a lot of people suffering the effects of long covid too. It is a bit rough to say I am selfish when all I am advocating is to try to prevent this misery. In time economies can adapt and revive, but dead humans don't.

Australia is mentioned and the covid response there is an interesting real life experiment. The states that went for wishy washy lockdowns are doing very badly while the other quick response lockdown states (where I live) are virtually covid free. I have had to contend with minimal lockdown since covid began. Life is pretty normal and people are not dying around me. The selfish ones here are those who only think of themselves and enter the state covertly bringing covid with them.

I stand by my initial comments.

 

Very classic proof of the manipulated statistics is a local lady that had a positive test for Covid ,23 days after her positive test she was In a car crash and on the death certificate it says Covid as well as the real reason she died.

 

I refer you to the first sentence in my original post.

 

I only see rubbish written by someone that thinks their an expert because they went to university many many years ago.
Maybe you think no one else has been since you did !
Or that we should look at you as someone so superior that you must be right.

Some older people deserve respect because of there knowledge and intelligence. I don’t think you fall into either of these categories.

 

These restrictions are indeed abhorrent but I'm sorry for your loss.

 

It is wrong to refer to people whose lives have been ruined from lockdowns and mandates as self indulgent divas. There any many people around the world living in poverty and dying from the measures being taken.

 

Well said Winston. While I know very few covid sufferers.....all of them vaxxed, by the way.......I know a LOT of small business owners suffering mightily due to the heavy restrictions.

What really pisses me off is the arbitrary nature of who gets shut down. Small store? Shut down. Big box retailer who has lobbying presence in government? They stay open.

God help you if your business is related to people actually having a good time.

If you'll notice--at least in the USA--not ONE government entity closed down due to the plandemic. THEY all stayed open for some reason. Zero government layoffs. And the US Postal Service and White House Staff are all exempt from the vaccine mandates.

They really DO care about us......after all. Now go get your booster shot. It's the patriotic thing to do!

 

Sorry that some of you have to denigrate someone with a different view from your own. I trust my education before most of the propaganda on the internet. My reference to divas was because the vocal anti vaxers in Australia are noted by how quickly they rush to a hospital demanding treatment if they contract covid. I still maintain that an initial two week total lockdown could have elimated most of the misery we have seen in the past 18 months.

 

A two week total lockdown would not be unreasonable to do. The problem is that we are in a permanent state of lockdown where mothers are being arrested in front of their children and police have people on the ground with their boot on the back of their neck while beating them with a club. This has not been about covid for a while now. This has become purely about punishing and making people who politically disagree with those in power go away. The "good people" with the "right opinion" are now floating the idea of denying medical care to those who have a different view of theirs. This is the new shitty and cruel approach of the morally virtuous.

 

The US postal service is in interesting story. They are a quasi-government organization and don't fall under federal jurisdiction but rather the OSHA mandate that Biden used. So they are a show proof of vaccination or weekly negative test policy because the postal workers union is the strongest union in the country. The union didn't require vaccinations because they have a hard time retaining carriers. Unions always side with the democratic party and their policies. The postal workers union is the largest and most obvious one that should have supported a mandate from president Biden but they didn't. The new world we live in. Up is down, left is right.

 

Further, you (Winston) did not denigrate. You disagreed. Funny how some take disagreement personally. But it only helps to make your points.

I would ask the Old Locked Cuck: Are you a "diva" if you go to the hospital for ANY medical condition that you could have conceivably avoided through PERFECT behavior? That is, are type 2 diabetics divas? Are smokers with cancer divas? Are AIDS patients who had unprotected anal sex divas? Is the guy with a heart attack a diva because he didn't jog ten miles a day? Is the guy with colon cancer a diva because he didn't eat the requisite 60 grams of fiber a day? Is the guy with periodontal disease a diva because he didn't floss twice a day?

Or is it ONLY the covid patient who didn't submit to the shots?

 

Ah, so that is what this thread is all about.

 

Yeah, exactly. Biden is one step in the grave and one on a banana peel. As IF he is going to take an unapproved shot. It's A: Not FDA approved. And B: The CDC says it's not needed.

Yet the "president of the free world" is going to take it?