OK…. But don’t the women miss PIV?

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    I'm sure this is true. However, might there also be some other things going on as well? Some couples seem to have good PIV, and then that changes as they enter midlife. That's certainly our experience. (I saw a study somewhere saying that middle-aged couples tend to switch focus towards non-penetrative sex.)

    I do wonder whether there's some murky evolutionary stuff running in the background. Despite the way we pairbond, humans certainly don't seem wired for long term sexual monogamy. Perhaps we're not "supposed" to have consistently good PIV over time anyway. Maybe during the childbearing years, inconsistent reward is at work, and/or mate selection. And maybe, later on, while women are still fertile but pregnancy would be dangerous, the body nudges them away from PIV?

    I think humans are a badly "designed" mess and we do the best we can... which is how some of us end up here :)
     
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    My Wife/KH enjoys PIV, but my dicklet so small, in both length and girth that she can barely feel it (it's around 1/8th the volume of the toys we use) and I've never been able to bring her to orgasm with it in over 15 years together. I started using a hollow strapon a bit over a year ago and she loves the fact that it gives her a sense of intimacy along with great orgasms. She's decided though that she would prefer me locked and using a vibrating dildo in a harness so we're currently looking for the right toy to put in a harness.

    So, does she miss PIV? Yes, but she doesn't miss my PIV and the last few times that she's granted me some brief PIV it's been to tease me and laugh at me because she can barely feel it. I certainly haven't been allowed to continue trying or even get anywhere close to coming. She recently told me that she can see a time when she would no longer allow me any PIV at all.
     
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    lol
    I’m slightly bigger than average and thick and have found most women don’t orgasm from PIV. I have found though that since I got my PA my gf now orgasms real fast. It seems the ball of the CBR hits her just right!
     
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    PIV is used in edging a lot with us. Definitely raises the difficulty level of not ejaculating. If I do, it’ll add a lot of time before I can even think about cumming.
     
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    This is true. Also, some women desire things even more than PIV like having our feelings acknowledged, being treated with gentle respect and not as a kink dispenser, sharing conversation, etc.

    Men are driven by physical touch and sex while many women are driven by the emotional aspects of a connection.
     
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    I really missed PIV when we started full time chastity. It wasn't a matter of orgasms - those were always from hubby's tongue, fingers, and/or a vibrator. For me, PIV was a different sort of physical connection, and I kept feeling like an itch was't getting scratched. Toys were't quite the same.

    In a weird way, pegging kind of fills that same need, albeit in a completely different manner. We've also found other ways to connect, and I no longer crave PIV. If we found a way to make it work with chastity, then that would be great. But I'm also very happy with where we are at.
     
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    Sounds good that you are very happy with what you are at.
    I am struggling with that as well and we are not even at two weeks of denial yet.
    I am really into PIV, I want to try with it but with denialing him or maybe numing cream and sometimes I want to allow him unconditional PIV. But I will have to sort that a bit in my mind.
     
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    Same here! My soft dick just wasn't getting the job done. So, we changed our routine. We have a cuck chair in our bedroom. I set and watch her pleasure herself with a clit vibe and a large dildo. I talk to her while she does it, and each time I reveal more and more of my cuckold fantasies. I tell her how she "deserves" a bigger/harder cock than my locked little softy. When she starts coming, I ask "do you want him to cum in you?". The answer is always a resounding Yes!

    This is quite exciting for both of us. Sometimes (though not so often lately) she asks if I want "sloppy seconds" (her words not mine). She will unlock me and I thank her for the honor of going 2nd. I love going 2nd! She uses a lot of lube when she is doing it with "Him" ( I really like the white stuff that looks like cum) and she is usually quite stretched. I tell her how great her used cunt feels. We both know she can't really feel me. It's more her and I bonding than it is fucking.

    More frequently these days, I am simply denied. When she has had "Him" she is done. She leaves me locked and we snuggle. Either way...it's very Hot! .
     
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    Have you tried having him wear a harness? Pro Tip: If you want his fake dick to feel right, spend the money on a good one. Get the length, width, texture, color you want... but above all, start with a fairly flexible dong. Getting the angles right (with a flexible dong) is easier for beginners. Don't be afraid to go big. If your hubby is into being caged,he won't be embarrassed if you switch to a toy thats bigger than him
     
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    My wife always claimed to like PIV, she seemed to really enjoy it when we were doing it. But she's never cum from just PIV, she always cums from licking or rubbing her clit.

    In the last four months or so she's let me inside her once. She just doesn't seem all that interested in PIV or anything else in V now that I'm locked and going down on her on command :(
     
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    Sure, just not with you.
     
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    There’s a reason they don’t sell too many small dildos. My wife’s primary toy is a thick 8” she enjoys very much.
     
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    My Queen does not seem to miss it at all. It’s been 4 months.
     
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    Good point. My Wife/KH became a size queen when she traded my soft old dick for a big dildo. And I'm all fo it! It's way sexier to watchr her take a big one than a small one.
     
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    It’s been almost three years since we had PIV. Before that it was just three times in two years. She says she should have cut me off years ago, but felt sorry for me. My penis didn’t do anything for her, and I would only last a minute or so. So I would always have to do clean up afterwards and bring her off with my tongue anyway. So she just eliminated that.
     
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    First off my penis is only 3 inches long erect and limp. Viagra no longer helps. Plus after being locked for 12 years I do not even ejaculate anything and the orgasm is not satisfying at all so PIV is useless. Even my bi wife's girlfriend felt sorry for me and tried to give me PIV but I fell out of her and she never tried again. My wife prefers women for sex and men for dating and marriage. My wife is perfectly happy never having sex with me again but she does love me and indulges me my locking up my penis every minute of every day with no exceptions for doctor visits or anything but surgery. I never get any orgasms unless she forgets to let go of my penis while she is having her orgasm. However, now she wants me locked all the time to prevent unintentional orgasms.

    To add to this, my wife had multiple surgeries on her vagina and as a result PIV hurts her. So she only cums on her vibrator and even then she prefers that I am not there. I only get to moan in pain a few times a year while she does CBT and nipple torture which turns her on. She does not find me sexually arousing nor necessary but still loves me for the life I provided her so she agree to chastity as a solution.
     
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    Great article…numbers unexpected!
     
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    I don't miss it, because I get it.
     
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    My wife and I both turned 60, and this story chimes with us. We used to have PIV sex until my wife went through the menopause. I came to realise that my wife was putting up with penetrative sex to keep me happy, but not enjoying it anymore. She never came through PIV, preferring her toy instead.
    Three years ago I introduced my desire to be caged. Things changed. I focused all attention on giving her pleasure, with no orgasms for me. Our relationship changed for the better, with us becoming closer as we took away the pressure of having to have PIV.
    I am no longer caged much, but we practise male chastity, with my cock rarely inside my wife. She enjoys playing with her manhood, but never to cum. I enjoy having long periods with a hard on, and pleasuring my wife with my fingers and tongue. It is definitely true that our sex life has changed now that we are both older. No mess. More cuddling and heavy petting.
     
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    Well we just had PIV but the P was. Vixen dildo fitted in my Meo strap on belt. Mind blown and it’s just like the real thing she said. Came twice and told me I am not Niki f out for a very very long time based on today.
     
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    due to testicular cancer 30+ yrs ago, i can no longer get hard enough for me to fuck her, and those few times that i can get hard enough, i cum in seconds, most often before i can even penetrate her.

    so yeah, we both miss PIV, but i’m no longer up to the task. we fucked a lot in the past, a super lot, and for years it was great. the last few years or so, my performance has rapidly decreased, even with endocrinologist monitored T injections. so instead of ruining all our good memories, i’m now pussy free for both our good, and instead i worship her orally front and back, and fuck her with a strap on that she loves.

    moral of the story is that a situation that can cause many couples marital problems, we figured out a way around it and we both couldn’t be happier.

    is it optimum? no. we’d both rather me be fucking her senseless like i did in the past, but that’s no longer an option, so we’re both totally loving this new journey that we’re on vs letting it tear is apart. when life gives you lemons, as they say….
     
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    But will you miss having your penis inside her? Learn to get your pleasure through her. Ejaculation is a loss of energy for us males.
     
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    To be honest, no. I prefer to pleasure her and we are on a zero orgasm path. None this year apparently. She loved it
     
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    Great. We are doing the same, and I have never been happier.
     
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