The Official "Permanent" Caged/Denial Matrix post.

In two years I've gone from 7/3 C/D to 8/6

 

I guess, my husband is around 7/7.

 

@Disciplined Boyfriend

Then if you are adding time in chastity, to how long I believe I will be in chastity then it would be:
8C/6D/2.7Y +x

Thread unhijacked?

 

Hmmm, I can't find the infinity character on my keyboard

 

Ditto, so I went with +x instead, but I feel your disappointment bro. I'm still a bit shaken myself after the discovery.

 

Turn it sideways.

 

I think I want a matrix like this, but from the user - i.e. keyholder - point of view.

 

As in this is where I think we are, or this is where I want to be?

User? A user of chastity?

A

 

Good point.
If you see different points of view, this needs consideration.
But if both agree on objective scales, there can only be one.

 

I suppose I really mean a measure of keyholder engagement. Maybe...

X = "She engages with locked cock."

Y = "She engages with unlocked cock."

 

If you think of male chastity as a system, then the keyholder is the end user.

 

Objectively measured:

Denied: 9.7
Locked 8.6

Interestingly, "8.6" or 86% of the time basically means a little less than 4 free days a month. If you were locked all but 52 days a year (once a week) you'd be 86% locked.

 

A keyholder oriented scale? Something like this?

1 He plays with the stupid thing and I get mad at him whenever I see it
2 He plays with the cage and I put up with it.
3 I hold the key, but I never keep him locked up more than a week.
4 I keep him locked up for a couple of weeks at a time.
5 I unlock him at least every month.
6 I unlock him for sex once in a while, but not very often.
7 I unlock him for airports and medical visits, but otherwise he’s always locked.
8 I really don’t know when I might unlock him again.
9 I won’t rule out unlocking him at some point in the future, but at this point I don’t have any reason to do so.
10 The cage is never coming off again. I plan to bury him in it

1 He cums whenever he wants
2 He has to ask permission to masturbate, but I rarely say no
3 I don’t allow him to masturbate, but I make sure he has lots of orgasms anyway
4 I couldn’t make the poor guy go more than a week without an orgasm.
5 No more than one a month keeps him romantic and attentive most of the time.
6 He’s kind of insufferable right after he’s had an orgasm, so he doesn’t get very many
7 One full orgasm on his birthday, if he’s been a very good boy all year.
8 Ruined orgasms only, preferably still in his cage
9 He’s not allowed orgasms, but I do milk his prostate sometimes
10 If anything comes out of him, he’s in big, big trouble.

 

Tom set out this in the first post

 

I’m up to a 8/7, didn’t take long for the caged side to bump up to the 8, the orgasm denial took longer. My Wife has decided lately that ruins will be the only type allowed for awhile. She says she decided this from things I’ve said in conversations about chastity and sub drop and how happy I’ve been living this way especially this past year as she’s become far more strict.
I guess I’ve sealed my own fate

 

Up to 7/1 at this point, but my orgasms are down about 70% from the 4/1 status.

 

This is pretty great! 8 / 6

C: 8 even when I travel it's taken off right before I go to security and put on right after I get through. I'll leave it on for doctors appointments, depending on the doctor.

D: 6ish (maybe 5.5). She let's me out to play every week (sometimes more), but I get an orgasm ever 3-ish weeks. Wife enjoys occasional PIV. Sometimes she likes to make me ruin myself. Sometimes she likes to play, and waits right to the last moment to let me know what she's going to allow. Sometimes she likes to play and change her mind at the VERY last second.

 

It's re-worded to be from a Keyholder's perspective, as asked for by Giles.

 

Oh! I see now. Lol

 

Though I'll stick with the original... I'm only 7/5 to your scale

 

How about a simplified scale:
0 he's unlocked
1 he's locked sometimes when I feel
2 permanent

0 he's free to orgasm in any way he wants
1 he gets an orgasm when I let him
2 no orgasm's for him

A

 

Well I’m a 10/10 but that’s because my key holder is a female friend who has no sexual interest in me whatsoever. I’ve been chaste for a year, caged for 8 months but retaining the key, then once I experimented for 2 months and found I can maintain hygiene without ever removing the GA2 she took the key. That’s how it’s been for 2 months and how it will stay. On our anniversary I agreed never to bring the subject up again, it’s a done deal. She basically likes me asexual.
I can see how this would probably be incompatible with a marriage or similar partnership. What she gets is someone who’s in love with her, does her bidding and makes no demands. I assume if she wants anything sexual she gets that elsewhere but it’s not my business and it’s never come up in conversation.

 

I’m currently waiting on a KTB that has a different key for wearing in addition to the GA2. This is on my own initiative in an attempt to condition myself to avoid strong arousal. I’m going to try to wear it as much as possible but you can’t keep a KTB on 247/365 for hygiene reasons. I certainly wont be talking to my friend about it because she’d find the whole thing either boring or distasteful. She has zero interest in my penis or my sexual thoughts and feelings. She just likes having a neutered pet.

 

In terms of this matrix it would still be 10/10 but the wording on the second 10 would be “if anything comes out of him ewww, I don’t wanna know - but I trust him, he’s fully committed.”