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    Is it normal at this point to have brief thoughts of “what the fuck have I done” as you realise you’ve given the keys away and have no obvious way back from this!

    It’s not as if I don’t want it… but it’s starting to feel like this might actually be real and no longer just an idea in my head!!
     
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    So wait.... you told her where the keys are... are they still there or did she take them and put them someplace unknown to you?
     
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    they’re still there… I find myself double checking every time I walk in the room!!!
     
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    So I began 2024 locked. Caged with the key on a shelf above the bed exactly where I put it 11 days ago when I told her I was wearing it. It’s not moved. She’s not shown an interest in the cage or the contents.

    But I have seen small signs of hope and improvement in our relationship. Simple and small things. The odd I innuendo joke from her, small signs she appreciates me a little more than usual, and even when out the other day she chose to loop her arm through mine as we went for a walk in the woods - next we’ll be holding hands again!!!

    Are these signs of us getting closer? Maybe? I’m not sure - could be coincidence.

    Honestly - I’d hoped for a little more I suppose. As I look at the first day of 2024 and consider the idea I may be locked long term for her to achieve a happier better relationship, I’d kind of like to know it’s having an impact.

    Right now, a part of me is thinking of quitting and chucking the cage in the back of a drawer and accepting I’m just trying a silly fad and this isn’t going to work. Do I really want to lock up my manhood for nothing in return? I mean… I could just stick with the honour system I was doing really well at - I’ve not played with it since March!

    So what to do… how long to I keep myself self locked even though I’ve “given her the keys” if I don’t see a sign of improvement?

    Or am I being stupid? Are the signs I’ve seen so obvious from chastity that I need to man up and stick with it?

    A part of me even thinks unlock and start playing with it again so she can see the difference!! But I don’t want to go back there - I can see I’m a better guy for no longer being a wanker!

    So my chaste friends and key holders, please offer me your advice and words of encouragement! What would you do? How long would you wait?
     
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    For me the phase you are in now, is also one of the hardest. My mind starts playing tricks, I want to cum, I want her to tease me, I want out. When those feelings subside it gets easier.


    Even tough you haven’t masturbated in a while, it seems like you are going trough the same fases now you are locked.
    Just hold on, and be patient.
    Easier said than done, I know.
    Try to make it at least to 4 weeks locked.
     
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    Ok - thanks buddy. It’s weird… I’ve managed 9
    And a half months of not masturbating… and I’m finding 10 days of being caged a challenge!!

    ok - 4 weeks here we come! Would be so much easier if she took the keys and helped make this compulsory!
     
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    Part of chastity is serving your keyholder. You do this on her terms, not yours. You need to chuck your idea of chastity out of the window. If she’s not comfortable actually taking your keys, that’s going to have to be OK. I know it’s not the best case scenario but look at it this way. You’re still not going to cum until she gives you release. She’s still the key to your orgasm. It’s just going to require that you have some good self discipline and handle the key yourself for now. You can unlock yourself when she is ready for sex. And this might mean that you have to be the one who initiates sex, and that’s OK. Maybe that’s what she needs right now. Who knows, over time she may come around. But do not give up unless she expressly says that she does not want you wearing it! If she’s allowing you to block yourself, that’s better than no chastity at all. I know it’s not easy, but it’s so worth it. Your relationship is much better without you wanking behind closed doors. Forget about the cage and put all of your focus on that wonderful woman in your life. The cage will still work its magic.
     
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    So you’re saying I should keep it on unless she says otherwise?

    Sorry - had to read a couple of times to be sure… but I get you. And the fact my cage was hurting as I read your advice shows me it’s the right advice!

    So basically I gave her the key and told her and she said said OK - so I’m in until she decides otherwise. I just need to be responsible and stick with it unless she says otherwise!

    I get it buddy - so I’m gonna try to go with this bud. Thanks - sometimes we need reminding of the obvious!
     
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    Absolutely! Do you feel like you’re a better husband for not masturbating? Does she want you masturbating by yourself? Does the cage help you keep your hands off your cock? If so, then it’s worth it to keep going. Just do your best to not pester her about the cage. Let her see it and let her see the changes in yourself. Be more aware of her needs and rise to meet them. Figure out how often she would like sex and schedule your bedroom times around that. And most importantly, focus on giving her an orgasm before seeking one yourself. Unless she really wants to give you one, that is. If wifey wants to play with her toy, she gets to play with her toy.
     
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    I’ve got you buddy!! It’s not mine to play with!! It belongs to her and she knows I’ve locked it and knows how to unlock it so I wait!!

    thanks for the reminder buddy - it’s just what I needed to stick this out!! Hopefully at some point she’ll see and become a bit more involved
     
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    Always happy to help. I hope things go well for you. In the future, if you need more encouragement, we’re all here for you.
     
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    I completely agree with @secretdan as long as she is at least neutral to the idea, you are on the right track. Not everyone has the luck of a KH that overnight jumps into this kink.
    If you want her to lead, let her take the lead. Even when that might feel very slow to you.

    Nah, it isn’t weird. Not touching yourself is in some way easier. When there is no temptation, not masturbating becomes a more passive state.

    When you wear a cage, you are reminded of your ordeal throughout the day. When you go to the bathroom, with certain movements, when you are trying to sleep.
     
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    Thanks guys - as the newbie in town I know I need all the help and support I can get. I’m sticking with this fora while longer!! Appreciate your help!
     
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    So this is day 13 - Having had a gentle reminder from @Shibmo and @secretdan - I'm back in the game!

    I put this on to see if it improved my behaviour and relationship with my amazing wife - and I have seen small signs of improvement. But I was getting disheartened that bigger things had not happened yet... after just 12 days.

    So - going forward. I told her that it was on, and would come off when she wanted it to. And I put the keys above the bed and told them where they were.

    From here forward for the time being I need to accept that having done this she decides when it comes off, not me. If she wants it to come off - it will.

    I don't want to make a big thing of it, and for so long as I have access to the key it will come off once a week for a proper clean and shave. It will come off for a long distance run (up to 5k I will still wear it) and It will come off when I visit the gym with the Personal Trainer (but will wear when I visit the gym for solo session)

    This seems a good balance. I've managed nearly 2 weeks... so will tough this out for a bit longer. I will review again at 21 and 28 days to decide if i'm going to continue like this. Bit for now, it stays on as I told her.

    It's not mine to play with!
     
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    Ok, so I was going to offer some advice… I read the thread. I read it again… I’ve got nothing.

    So far your story reads (sorry if this sounds facetious)….
    I don’t have intimacy with my wife.
    I stopped masturbating.
    I still don’t have intimacy with my wife.
    I put a cage over my penis…
    My wife noticed no difference in my behaviour.
    I don’t really want to discuss this with my wife, she can decide when to take it off… but she doesn’t interact with it at all.
    It’s made zero difference to our sex life.
    Soon I hope she’ll hold my hand.

    Maybe there’s a lot going on that isn’t been said here, but I can’t help feeling you’ve missed the part where you connect all the dots for her.

    There was a comment on one of your posts about a jewish belief (maybe got this wrong) that you should be there to provide for your wife…
    Does that say it is unconditional? Should you be asking more? Or if not, should you not be making it clear what you want?
    She shouldn’t feel obliged by any means, but I’m not sure if you two have discussed how you feel about the lack of intimacy on both sides.
     
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    Ok - trying harder. wife lost interest in any intimacy a few years ago, and doesn't want to talk about it. I've managed to use my abstinence and the cage as basis for some communication on intimacy, and seeing small - very small signs of improvement.

    She agrees that since i've given up, she has noticed improvement.
     
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    Has she quit on all forms of intimacy or just physical?

    Is your abstinence a show that sex isn’t important? Or do you aim to redevelop that side of the relationship… if so How?
     
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    I guess just physical intimacy... Recently have managed to progress back to more cuddling and some hugs.

    Reality is I would like to have some sexual side to our relationship - but that's not within my control if she doesn't want to. Abstinence and chastity was my attempt to show that it's OK and I don't need it... and I don't want it from anywhere but from her.
     
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    I think @IB-Chaste makes a good point. This is what you are very likely going to get unless you make the point that the lack of intimacy in your marriage is not healthy and that you don't want to settle for less than the best. It seems like you may need to suggest some professional help or look into some resources that address this type of problem at this stage of your marriage.

    My wife and I have an amazing marriage now. It crushes me to hear stories of others settling for less because I know what they are missing.
     
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    Thanks bud - really appreciated! I’m beginning to think I need to start the process and go find some counselling etc… even if it starts with me and I get to bring her along later perhaps!!
     
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    Good idea!
     
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    My journey here may well have been somewhat short lived.

    My wife has told me that chastity is "just plain weird" and that she is never going to do anything she doesn't want to do just to make me happy. So whilst she might "tolerate" me playing with a cage, it looks like it's never going to do anything for our intimacy so seems I'm back to square one again.

    I guess the subject has maybe got us talking a tiny bit more openly - perhaps were at 10% of where we ought to be now. Sadly she feels she is asexual and just doesn't want to talk about it. I have to find a way of just living with it it seems and live in the hope that this is a stage of life thing and may one day pass.

    Not much point me being here anymore... but thanks to @littleguy3 @Shibmo @secretdan and @Jay Sub for your help and support. It was appreciated even if I was only here a short while.
     
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    Well that’s a shame. Honestly, her selfish attitude would have been perfect if she held your key. Sounds harsh, but that’s the truth in a comment like that.

    One thing to consider…
    If she came out as gay that wouldn’t work in a relationship. You’d break up.
    If her sexual orientation has changed you need to think about what this means. You deserve to be happy too.
     
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    Thanks bud - I need time to work through this... and understand why. I've booked myself in for some counselling to help. I dont know whether the problem is the trauma we went through as a family a few years ago, the menopause or something else. The asexual thing doesn't make that much sense to me as I do believe she did previously "want me" and can't see how this is anything other than a change because of circumstances. I haven't given up hope of figuring out what those circumstances are and if we can work through them.

    I'm effectively in chastity anyway - as I gave up playing with myself in March whilst trying to become a better hubby to be a more attentive and caring partner. A bit of me thought about just going back to it to show her the difference between a husband who wanks every day vs an attentive caring hubby who is constantly after his wifes approval. But I'd be doing that for the wrong reason I guess! I really would like to think the next time my cock gets played with it will be by her - I'm just rather unsure now if that will ever happen.

    Who knows - maybe one day I'll pop back here and tell you its happened! right now that seems really unlikely!
     
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    Testosterone production slows in males as they age. Estrogen production diminshes in females as they age. To make it even more complex, menopause can mess with your hormone production. Because testosterone is the primary hormone that triggers desire and women typically have 1/10th the amount that men do, it's likely that most women don't have any desire without stimulation mentally, emotionally & physically. That's why women typically have a responsive desire which means they need to get into the act of love making in order to want it.

    Emotional trauma creates a further barrier (it's like "stepping on the brakes") to sexual desire. Women especially and even men can struggle with interest in sex. Therapy is often necessary for healing from emotional trauma to take place.

    You have an uphill battle in your marriage. But it's definitely worth it. And if your wife loves you like you say she does, she should be willing to find a solution to your intimacy issues. She made a vow to you as well to love you through everything life throws at you. Not being willing to pursue physical intimacy with you seems just as harmful to your marriage as watching porn & masturbating.
     
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