Covid-19 and Life

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    Epic statement from American expat CJ Hopkins on his show trial in Berlin for several tweets criticizing mask mandates.
    Whatever you’re doing (I guess reading this comment ;-), stop right now and take five minutes to read the speech CJ delivered in court. It is LEGENDARY and may be the most important speech I’ve ever read on totalitarianism—made all the more historic given he was performing it in the context of a Kafkaesque totalitarian trial. That he was acquitted afterward makes this a triumphant finale that will make you want to leap to your feet in a standing ovation after reading it

    This is what we’re fighting against—and fighting for:

    • “The Verdict”: https://cjhopkins.substack.com/p/the-verdict
     
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    Wow, yes, powerful. I got goosebumps when reading this:

    He was speaking of Germany, but this is the US under Biden as well. That totalitarinism is alive and well, heralded by one political party, accepted as normal by the media. It is frightening. And just as they did to Hopkins, they label those attempting to bring visibility of the totalitarinism as nazis. And the sheep parrot the talking points blissfully ignorant to the dangerous shift underway. Education, Media, and Corporations have been coopted to all deliver the same messages as the state. And the vast majority of people are either too stupid, or lazy to question it.
     
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    Thank you for post Zevon. This shared Atxmtb’s opinion about that one chilling paragraph in particular
     
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    He has been acquitted.
     
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    So I read an edit on this article which the authors wrote.
    They said that the hundert percentage death rate might come from an overexpression of the human ACE 2 in the mices brain, but not in the lungs. The ACE2 gets there by genetically modifying the mice, so it isnt their usual reaction of course.
    Since there are more hACE receptors the virus attaches more in the brain, than the lung and causes its inflammation there instead of the lung tissue or rest of the body. like balls or example.

    So not the virus is the problem, but the mice.
    Not comparable, even if there would occur a spillover.
     
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    In case of the lungtissue it is known, that the presence of ACE1 is responsible for the fibrosis. Usually there is an equilibrium between ACE2 and ACE1 action.
    So just putting ACE2 into mice doesnt represent a infection if a human with its whole pathogenesis.
     
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    Perhaps a relief, but still distressing that they play around like this. I do not see an ending where this ends well.
     
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    Yes. I absolutely share your point of view. It always has been and will stay an absolute nightmare that there are people in the world, that play around with things that can kill millions of people.

    And this without any benefit for mankind.
     
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    dang those mice for not cooperating!!!
     
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    I am sure they gave their very best.
     
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    cracking up! Thanks for laugh.
     
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    That's how the Elites think of us....
    If they think of us at all.
     
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    SOMETHIN’ AIN’T RIGHT: THE NUMBERS DON’T LIE

    UK Excess Deaths are Up a Staggering 22% among 1 to 14-Year-Olds After mRNA “Magic Juice”

    Edward Dowd recently joined Jimmy Dore to discuss the staggering number of excess deaths for children in the UK.

    BOTTOM LINE: UK HAS A PROBLEM: Excess deaths are up a staggering 22% among 1 to 14-year-olds.

    Notably, this trend didn’t start until “the magic juice started to be issued to children later in 2021.”

    2020: 9 percent fewer deaths than expected
    2021: 7 percent fewer deaths than expected
    2022: 16 percent MORE deaths than expected
    2023: 22 percent MORE deaths than expected


    See:
    https://twitter.com/VigilantNews/status/1752845902962688144

    (For those who don’t know, Dowd is a numbers guy.
    He is Founding Partner of Phinance Technologies, a global macro alternative investment firm.

    He is also author of the new book, "Cause Unknown: The Epidemic of Sudden Deaths in 2021 & 2022." (Skyhorse Publishing).

    Dowd has worked on Wall Street most of his career, spanning both credit markets and equity markets. Some of the firms he worked for include HSBC, Donaldson Lufkin & Jenrette and Independence Investments.

    Most notably, he worked at Blackrock as a portfolio manager where he managed a $14 billion Growth equity portfolio for ten years. After BlackRock, he founded OceanSquare Asset Management with two former BlackRock colleagues. Not a stupid man!)




     
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    Of course we will never get anyone to actually address this. They'll just hope it becomes the new normal, and no one will notice anything. Or they'll call this guy a quack like they did with Malone. It's infuriating.

    I had a discussion with a long time friend over the weekend. He's a nice guy, smart and all, but has got a blind spot. No matter what I'd say, his opinion was "But the more folks vaccinated, the better the health of the overall population". He basically discounts excess deaths as a reasonable cost. Ultimately his point would be, without the vax, those excess deaths would be due to the virus and they would be larger then the excess deaths caused by the vax. Um, yeah, maybe, maybe not. But shouldn't I have the choice of risks I wish to face? His feeling was, not really. That the choice is really up to the state. At least he was logical about things, which makes it easier to have the discussion, and we could boil it all down to trust in the government and the "science" they rely on. He trusts it. I don't.
     
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    Sorry. I embedded my reply to FIt's post rather than after it. Here it is again.

    Please forgive what may be a tired commentary by now. But isn't it stunning how "normalized" all of this excess death is? I suppose it is not if it is YOUR loved one who dies, but I find that it's those very people most willing to bury their head in the sand.

    Perhaps there's a new phrase: "I'm sorry madam, your 11 year old child is dead from myocarditis as a result of the shots." Her reply, "Oh well, imagine how bad his death COULD have been if he wasn't vaccinated."
     
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    Yup, and how accepting folks are of vax deaths but how paranoid many of them are about non-existent climate change deaths and firearm deaths. It seems to be the depth of thinking is only as deep as listening to the preferred narrative and repeating it. Not actually internalizing the risk and making conclusions accordingly.
     
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    Extremely well said. Thank you.
     
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    New study shows at least 14 deaths for every life saved from jabs. The real travesty is the continued use of relative risk vs. absolute risk. Pfizer claimed 95 % reduction in the risk of getting covid if you got jabbed. Even using relative risk, they needed sleight of hand to arrive at this number vs. the real relative risk reduction of 17 %. The absolute risk was a mere 0.7 %. Essentially the same as the absolute risk reduction of a heart attack f you take statins. The absolute risk reduction they tell you is 50 %. for statins. Same scam they use with all drug and vaccine efficacy claims. Liars, deceivers, thieves, and monsters all.
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/for-every-life-saved-mrna-vaccines-caused-nearly-14-times-more-deaths-study-5579794?
     
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    That is a truly eye popping figure. And even in my limited anecdotal world, it seems right. Way more people are dying within my circle of acquaintances. (partly because I am getting older, I get that)

    Similar scams: Statin drugs were found to be able to get people's cholesterol down to about 200. PRESTO! The medical world declared that THAT was the new safe level.

    "Normal blood pressure" used to be 140/90. The little booklet on my B/P device even says so. Now even the lowered 12/80 is being called too high. Why? Because dang near everyone takes drugs to get it to 120/80.

    Liars, Cheaters, Criminals.
     
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    YOU JUST KNEW THIS WAS COMING … DIDN’T YOU?

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    See:

    https://unjected.com/pages/about





     
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    Lovely advertisement for the founders website and company for nutritional supplements.
    Brilliant coup.
     
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    Now, HOW jaded am I? Did I see this as a clever way for men and women to meet one another based on some sound beliefs?

    OR, did I suspect that this is some devious way the government will find out who you are?
     
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    I love the paranoia that vibes in your post.
     
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    Paranoia: Very effective at preventing those out to get me......from getting me.
     
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