Covid-19 and Life

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    And now pfizer have put the price up to $120 per shot.
     
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    HOLD ON TO YOUR HORSES ... HERE WE GO AGAIN!
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    Face Diaper Mandates
    Could Make A Return After HHS Report Says Masking Should Be Encouraged Or Mandated
    A new report from Sleepy, Creepy, Crazy, Perverted Uncle Joes’s Department of Health and Human Services says that policymakers should “encourage or mandate policies and protocols regarding masking and social distancing in public spaces.”

    The report states that ending the mask mandates made it harder for people with “long COVID.”

    The report also calls for funding for long COVID support groups and new health benefits for Chinese Coronavirus victims.

    FoxNews is reporting:

    Masking and social distancing should be encouraged or even mandated once more in public in order to protect people from COVID-19 and from the possibility of suffering from “Long COVID,” according to a new report from the Department of Health and Human Services.

    The report, commissioned by HHS and produced by research agency Coforma, calls for a broad range of government policies to help people who continue to deal with the lingering effects of COVID. Those policies include an awareness campaign, funding for long COVID support groups, financial support for students and workers, and new health benefits for COVID victims.

    Reinstating a mask mandate may be the most controversial recommendation in the report, which says ending that mandate in late 2021 and 2022 is making it harder for people with long COVID.

    “The lifting of mask mandates and indifferent attitude toward masking and social distancing typical in many public and private places further isolates people with Long COVID,” the report said. As a result, policymakers should “encourage or mandate policies and protocols regarding masking and social distancing in public spaces,” it said.”


    Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t The Demented One declare back in September that the Scamdemic was over? Must have been a momentary lapse of “reason” on his part!

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    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mask-mandate-return-hhs-report-wants-encourage-mandate-masking-stop-long-covid
     
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    You must thank God that every time you check in on this thread all of us unvaccinated are still here and still alive.

    It's a miracle.
     
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    I watched the full episode with my wife. Very well done. She was blown away.
     
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    And hoping that it will be paid for by someone ... like the government or health insurance companies ... or the occasional willing fool like the “New York Slimes Boy.”
     
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    Right. So let’s not forget that a quid pro quo means we put THEM in jail. We ruin THEIR jobs. We close THEIR businesses. We kill THEIR children. We ruin THEIR education.
     
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    For me, it is not a conspiracy. I just follow my doctors advice. Pretty much everyone we knew caught Covid over the summer. In my case Paxlovid drove it out of my system quickly.

    I don’t like to get sick and always want to minimize symptoms. Got my flu shot as well.

    Most people are not focused on Covid anymore.
     
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    Those same people are the ones demanding "amnesty."
    Everyone has amnesty once buried...
     
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    Did they all happen to be jabbed by any chance?
     
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    Let us say a prayer for the 3 billion unvaccinated people in the world who have had no doses at all.

    It's a miracle they are still alive!

    Billions more have only had one dose.

    Another miracle!
     
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    Video: Excess deaths, lack of data


     
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    DEPOSITION DAY FOR THE ESTEEMED LITTLE ELF

    Updates when and if they become available.
     
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    With 8 billion humans now on this planet, it isn't unreasonable to expect to find examples of young healthy people dying unexpectedly of heart failure. 1,000 examples of young people dying suddenly amounts to a minuscule fraction of 1%.

    I acknowledge there are excess deaths as a result of the Covid 19 pandemic, not directly caused by the virus. There are many possible and expected causes, namely lack of medical care over the period of two years, and increased occurrence of mental health issues, alcoholism and depression to name two of them.

    A PubMed search found this article listed 4th out of 4,523 articled published between the years 2000 and 2019 using the keywords "cardiac arrest adolescents".

    From Januray 22, 2019

    Sudden Cardiac Arrest in a Young Population: Not So Unpredictable

    "“A 6‐foot‐8, 260‐pound forward, Lewis collapsed in the second half of Division II Southern Indiana's road win over rival Kentucky Wesleyan on January 14, 2010. He died, they would learn later, due to a heart condition he never knew he had.”1 Highly publicized events such as this promote a common perception that young people who die suddenly tend to be athletes with undiagnosed heart disease. Prior studies have added to this misperception with data suggesting that most victims die of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. Because study populations often are adolescent athletes, exercise was found to be a major trigger.2 Two recent population‐based studies of all cardiovascular‐related sudden cardiac arrest (SCA) in people 0 to 35 years of age concluded that most events occur during nonathletic activities, and hypertrophic cardiomyopathy was not the most common cause of arrest.3, 4 A surprising finding was the presence of cardiovascular risk factors (obesity, smoking, hyperlipidemia) in a high percentage of the victims.4

    ...

    "The final study population comprised 608 subjects who had a verified cardiac cause. The investigators found that 68% had a previously known cardiac diagnosis or had been prescribed a cardiac medication, 55% had ≥1 cardiovascular disease risk factor, and 20% had a psychiatric diagnosis or a prescribed psychotropic medication. The most frequent cardiac diagnosis was coronary heart disease (CHD) (40%), followed by structural disease of the myocardium (29%), whereas 16% [97] were unexplained deaths. Most subjects with CHD were aged >35 years (52%), but of those aged 25 to 34 years, 16% had diagnosable CHD. The events were more common during sedentary activities (73%) and within private residences (72%)."​
     
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    Topic: Myocarditis and Pericarditis

    Concerning Myocarditis and Pericarditis and those diagnosed with Covid 19:

    Published September 3, 2021:

    "Viral infections are a common cause of myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle (myocardium) that can result in hospitalization, heart failure, and sudden death (1). Emerging data suggest an association between COVID-19 and myocarditis (2–5).
    Since Covid 19 is a virus that causes viral infection then obviously you will see an association with
    myocarditis and pericarditis.

    "During March 2020–January 2021, the period that coincided with the COVID-19 pandemic, the risk for myocarditis was 0.146% among patients diagnosed with COVID-19 during an inpatient or hospital-based outpatient encounter and 0.009% among patients who were not diagnosed with COVID-19."​

    Using magic with numbers:

    "After adjusting for patient and hospital characteristics, patients with COVID-19 during March 2020–January 2021 had, on average, 15.7 times the risk for myocarditis compared with those without COVID-19"​

    To support this position by the CDC:

    "These findings underscore the importance of implementing evidence-based COVID-19 prevention strategies, including vaccination, to reduce the public health impact of COVID-19 and its associated complications."
    The CDC and government were looking to provide as much possible evidence to motivate people to get vaccinated as possible.

    Source: Association Between COVID-19 and Myocarditis Using Hospital-Based Administrative Data — United States, March 2020–January 2021


    Concerning prevalence of Myocarditis and Pericarditis prior to Covid 19 Vaccination in those who did have and did not have Covid 19:

    Published 15 April 2022:

    "Myocarditis and pericarditis are potential post-acute cardiac sequelae of COVID-19 infection, arising from adaptive immune responses."

    ...

    "Nine post-COVID-19 patients developed myocarditis (0.0046%), and eleven patients were diagnosed with pericarditis (0.0056%). In the control cohort, 27 patients had myocarditis (0.0046%) and 52 had pericarditis (0.0088%)."

    ...

    "We did not observe an increased incidence of neither pericarditis nor myocarditis in adult patients recovering from COVID-19 infection."​

    Source: The Incidence of Myocarditis and Pericarditis in Post COVID-19 Unvaccinated Patients—A Large Population-Based Study

    Dr John Cambell's video about above medical article.

     
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    You would think we could have a database that shows the vax status of those who are getting myocarditis, dying suddenly, etc. I don't think that's even a question when people come into the hospital with such issues. It's a shame, as we could possibly link a lot of potential cause and effects - and not just with the COVID vax.
     
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    Going down the rabbit hole. Connecting the dots.

    fauci letter.jpg

    Why does Fauci mention notifying FBI and MI5?

    Who do these two men mention being involved?



    Now add in this article: It Was Birx. All Birx.

    Now ask yourself, "Why do they want everyone vaccinated?"

    Not so much a conspiracy theory as food for thought.
     
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    Washington Compost: The Vaccinated Now Account for a Majority of Chinese Coronavirus Deaths
    There’s a remarkable concession appearing today in Jeff Bezos’ liberal fish wrapper, the Washington Compost:

    a majority of Americans dying from the coronavirus received at least the primary series of the vaccine.”


    The latest data shows that 58% of Chinese Coronavirus deaths in August 2022 were from people who were vaccinated or boosted. Based on past figures and the current trends, we can reasonably estimate that the number of vaccinated/boosted Chinese Coronavirus deaths will only rise. (In September 2021, the vaccinated accounted for 23% of COVID-19 deaths; in January/February 2022, the vaccinated were 42%.)

    This is what happens when you rush ineffective and dangerous vaccines.

    And yet ... even with these numbers, The Esteemed Little Elf continues to vouch for the jab, stating the data “overwhelmingly show the effectiveness of vaccines” (in killing and injuring people).


    See:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...-majority-covid-deaths/?itid=ap_mckenziebeard

    https://technofog.substack.com/p/th..._id=86411849&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email





     
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    About the time I finished the above post, I came across the following article. Having just finished reading it, I believe it may very accurately summarize the whole freaking mess. The author came to their conclusions in July of 2022.

    The Catastrophic Covid Convergence
     
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    I'm late to the party, as until recently I haven't looked below the surface, in regard to Covid 19.

    Recently, I was given the homework assignment, "Reflect on the moral implications of scientific endeavors that directly affect your life."

    Given that Covid-19 came under the umbrella of "National Security," the "truth" is likely "classified" and Fauci is "protected."

    He has millions of dollars to pay lawyers, if he and not the government provides them, and he will likely be rubbing elbows and partying with the "elite" until he dies, of natural causes.
     
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    UH .... NO ... But I Have Accepted THE ESTEEMED LITTLE ELF - Does that count?
     
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    Even the far left Yahoo News is starting to admit something is wrong. Albeit obliquely.

    “One in a million” reaction
    Viper,

    I love your posts. But I’m gonna push back a little bit here.

    Yes. As a percentage some “excess deaths” are low.

    But let’s never forget. You as an individual are not a statistic. You are a population of one.

    By this I mean I don’t give a rat’s ass if “only 1% die” if I AM one of those who died!

    I care about me. My wife. Few others.

    Does taking a shot make me MORE likely to die or LESS likely to die? That’s what matters to me. It’s what should matter to you.

    The shots make you more likely to die. Period. By how much? I don’t care. I get no pleasure from the shot and it only increases my likelihood to die or be injured. Therefore, I will not take the shots.

    It’s false logic to treat yourself—a population of one—as a statistic. Others treat you as a statistic. But do not make the mistake of treating yourself as one.
     
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