Anyone Feling More Masculine and Manly During T&D?

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    Hello everybody,

    I wanted to ask a question that confuses me a little bit. I will start with a bit of intro and only jump to the question later (in bold at the bottom).

    INTRO


    Until recently, I have only been fantasizing about T&D for many years. A few weeks ago, I have decided to share the fantasy with my wife - my fantasy (at least for now) is mostly around merciless T&D (not so much chastity, though I do own one device that I bought and tried mostly out of curiosity). She was surprisingly quite receptive and got into it very quickly ("be careful what you wish for" might be coming).

    Short background on us. She loves PIV and prefers it to any other form of sex. I love pretty much everything and have a very high sex drive. Before sharing the fantasy with her and committing to not masturbating, I would easily cum from masturbating 3x a day - unfortunately, it would then lead to me being less interested in actual sex, which is one of the main reasons I decided to cut it off.

    We have a very balanced relationship where we both have an equal say in all matters (though some matters are naturally more in her court and some in mine, depending on what we're good at/what we enjoy). I deeply respect and admire her for what a beautiful, caring, loving, smart, "heart of the party" and independent woman she is, and she loves me for being loving, thoughtful, having my own opinions, and for my masculinity, manliness and what she calls "big dick energy".

    As you can imagine, going into any sort of "sub-state", losing my voice when sharing/arguing over opinions with her or any sort of submissiveness triggered by T&D would most likely totally kill her arousal, possibly negatively impaired her perception of me and quite likely negatively impacted our relationship.

    Interestingly, since we began the T&D journey, I feel more masculine and manly rather than "sissy". Instead of masturbating, I put her needs ahead of mine and give her much stronger and more frequent orgasms than ever before. When we have sex, I am not already exhausted by not too distant cumming from masturbation but charged up, extremely horny, and ready to have a both (i) slow and sensual sex (which is so damn good given how sensitive I am after a few days) and (ii) raw animal sex (I have been solo playing with T&D for years and even when almost near the edge can keep going for a long time by playing around with less stimulating positions etc which comes in really handy).

    The only difference is that at the very end when she has cum many times, and I turn into a mess 1 second away from cumming, she has all the power to make me cum like a firehose or tell me to "Stop!". And sometimes, I might even beg her to change her mind (which might come across as submissive), but it is just in the heat of the moment that we both enjoy - and once it is over, I pull her into my arms and treat her like a loving and strong man.

    QUESTION


    My question is, T&D and chastity forums/porn/captions/everything else appears to be 99.9% centred around the woman having ultimate power over the man and, more often than not, treating him a bit like a sissy/slave.

    Is this the case for all of you here (both women and men), or is anyone else experiencing the dynamic I described above, where T&D actually makes you feel more masculine and manly (by putting her needs first, by having that animalistic energy and drive from all the testosterone, by being a lot more protective of her... by exercising self-restraint helping you to become a better man - both for yourself and mainly for her)?

    Thank you so much for your views!

    Michael
     
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    I agree with you for my case. I think there are many varieties of this out there. I think our variety gets labeled Vanilla.

    I am ok with vanilla. My wife wants me in charge of our life. Chastity gives her all the control she wants to keep us like new lovers.

    One thing I like, I can be locked and enjoy holding her especially when she is tired and she is relaxed knowing I am just loving on her with my hands without her on guard that I am trying to just penetrate her being the pig many men are.

    T and D is a good thing. It's easy looking at the internet and feeling us vanilla guys aren't doing this right.

    It works just fine for Ann and I.
     
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    The most important thing to remember on this question: Porn is not real.

    Rule #1: She makes the rules.

    Rule #2: When in doubt, see rule #1.

    Look, some men enjoy being sissified (I guess). And some women enjoy sissifying their men. Hopefully, those men got stuck with those women. And that would be awesome! (For them.)

    My wife loves cock. Thankfully, I have a good one. She'd probably have a heart attack and die if I ever tried on women's panties. She doesn't want me to grow boobs or shave anything. If she had to wear a strap-on, ever, or put something into my ass, she'd probably (want to) leave me that second and never come back.

    She also doesn't put on leather boots or rubber plastic clothes or carry a whip.

    Remember: Porn is not real.

    What's real is what works for you and your wife. Or at least for your wife :D
     
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    Denial is keeping up with her, tuning to her needs routine and initiation instead of her relunctantly obliging whenever sex calls being made by the male. Sufficient foreplay and making her in total relaxed state before subjecting to her prefered manner to be fucked and finished off makes a man very patient and pleasing on bed.
    If she wants sex, be ready and fulfill her wish.
    If she doesnt, continue to serve her well in all areas and wait. Couples do lots of role playing.. if femininisation or zoo keeping is their cup of tea.. so be it. Some permanent, Some dont. I have never been made to wear maid uniform, put on a bra or crawl like a wounded panther ready to be whipped. But i have been made to kneel nude with a cage over the penis and licking her pussy while shes is standing up and looking down. Our eye contacts become magical.
     
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    I agree!
     
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    I love this dynamic (practicing more Devotional Sex dynamic than DS http://www.devotionalsex.com/, which creates more balance in the relationship) as a strongly masculine guy. I think T&D, chastity, sissification, etc, is certainly fair game if that's what works for a couple, but enhanced masculinity and strong "Yang" energy is a great outcome of the dynamic. My wife loves strong masculinity, me taking initiative, etc. But we do it where she is still ultimately in control and decides what happens or doesn't. Which is a great turn on for me and challenge sometimes to channel all my energy. Like you say, we have passionate and animalistic sex, she has orgasm(s), and I don't and get to figure out how to channel my energy. Which results in a great feeling for me and still charged up and ready to go.

    But yeah, I'm right there with you on all you said. Love it!
     
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    Michael,

    I definitely fall into the category you describe of yourself although I didn't fantasize about T&D beforehand. T&D though saved my sex life with my wife because we were dead before I discovered it myself through solo nipple stimulation. I had to resort to chastity to prevent myself from masturbating. When I asked my wife to be my KH, it was too turn control of my body over to her. I explained T&D to her at the same time because of the benefits to her. I wanted to love her sacrificially and that gave me the hormonal drive to do so.

    Do you still masturbate or struggle with the urge to do so?
     
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    Thanks for that link! I now realise that my wife and I are living the Devotiinal Sex life, as described in that weblink. We found male chastity a year ago, but for the last few months I have been uncaged. We cuddle every morning and night as described on the site, with my wife’s pleasure being my focus. My chastity keeps me ever eager to please her. I’m in a nice place, and wishing we’d found this way of living years ago.
     
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    We are very similar to you, going through a chastity period right now but we are much more tantra/karezza focused. We are not into any of the sissy/submissive stuff either.

    Being locked for her, focusing all of my thoughts/fantasies on her, and no orgasms (for either of us) leads to some very passionate exchanges.

    Yes, I definitely feel more masculine, and despite her having all of the keys I also feel more in control.
     
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    Awesome to hear! and meet a fellow "DevS"-er :)

    I have been curious lately about trying a cage. More for the symbolic and emotional connection/"I'm hers" aspect. Do you have any thoughts or experiences of with/without that you'd be willing to share?

    Like you, I wish we'd have found this years ago!
     
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    I have bought a number of cages- CB6000S, a Vice and then a Vice Mini. I do like the power dynamic that it brings and my wife has got quite into the role of being my keyholder. When. We started this last year I was addicted to porn and masturbating far too often for stress relief. Having my cage on for days/weeks at a time, and mywife with the key was what I needed to break the habit,
    I got really horny and strained against my cage, whilst pleasuring my wife with everything but my cock. My cock became her property- an interesting power dynamic.
    For the last few months I have been left in aged. I don’t cum if touch the cock- touching it is something for my wife to enjoy. I am on a lovely high, and our live life is stronger than ever. I hanker after getting caged again, because it became a comfort thing, but only if my wife doesn’t miss having her cock at her beck and call when she wants to play. i don’t even miss orgasms now!
     
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    One of my favorites is her using my cock to give herself an orgasm. Then we snuggle up and go to sleep. Such a powerful feeling! I was telling her the other day that yeah, basically, my cock is her's for her enjoyment. I love the play, like you on a lovely high, and the other day didn't really need the orgasm I had.

    Did your wife have any mental/emotional hurdles to overcome to get into the dynamic? I feel like we have a few things to work through before we can really click into the dynamic. We're ever so close and on the verge of turning into the dynamic in a bigger way. Hoping we can get there. She loves the dynamic, but holds back in some ways and can't quite get into her pleasure. Which means she asks for less. But knows she wants a lot more.

    And the aspect of feeling guilty for focusing on her pleasure and that she's withholding it from me. But man, I love the feeling. Tease, play, let me give her pleasure, the overall lifestyle is amazing.
     
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    My wife did struggle with the dynamic. She found it alien that I would want to be denied orgasm, or be punished by being locked up in a cage. She slowly got into it. Even bought some sexy underwear to tease me more. But she has no desire to use strapons on me, play with my ass or anything like you might see elsewhere on this site.
     
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    haha, likewise here. Why would you want me to deny you orgasm? That was completely opposite anything she had learned/heard. And she is getting into it. But even with her own sexuality, feeling comfortable with her own pleasure, then asking for it.

    Right, not looking at strapons or other things, I don't (at least for now) see either of us having those kinks.
     
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    Keep me posted on progress!
     
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