A Female Led political party

I do believe in helping family and friends. I even believe in Community Based Assistance-CBA-basically churches and charities. But I don’t believe government should have the power to force me to pay for anything for anybody I don’t know and am not beholden to. I have helped, rarely, those I know personally and feel are worthy of my assistance, but blindly giving is not an option for me. Government taking my money through taxation and supporting others with it isn’t charitable. It’s theft. As I said, I’m a work or starve kinda guy. And yes, that goes for myself, as well, so I feel no guilt expecting the same of others.

 

I think, we are slightly deviated from the subject of this thread 'Female led relationships'.

 

This is the subject of the forum, not the thread.

 

Just absolute delusion.

An enormous part of your life that lead to who you are and what you're doing was achieved through socialist taxes.

If you still happen to believe that you're being stolen from, why not go to a country where they don't have those tax's. There are examples of places that have shared your Libertarian philosophy.

 

You are aware your taxation pays for social welfare, pays for foreign aid, pays for subsidies for corporations to hire more employees, pays for public schools, food and beds and TVS for prisoners... The list goes on. Some are good some are bad but they all make up the fabric of a western society.

You sound like you've had a life where you work hard but haven't ever realistically followed the trail where your tax money goes to, or how the products you consume with your hard earned money was made available by government activity not actually your own efforts, regardless of what theory you've been led to believe.

It's a shame, because conservatives in power use people like you with good work ethics to provide for those who don't input back into the tax system... Whether that be the lowest of low or the highest tax evading CEO in the country. Work or starve isn't a realistic mentality, it actually just shows you're a worker not a decision maker.

Perspective.

 

Ok, I’m back in again... can you at least admit that life is not fair? Some people do not have family and friends, some have never been given the opportunity to thrive, some have been born ill....and yes, it is not always their fault. Just because you have had the opportunity to live your political philosophy does not mean others are not doing the best they can. If you truly want to carry your own weight only, the only option is to live in the forest cut off from the rest of us because you live in a society that is subsidized from the rest of us in every way imaginable. I have the feeling that being visited by 3 ghosts in your sleep will not be enough to change you mind, so I myself will be personally haunting you. You now have the ghost of Christmas past, present, future, and me the ghost of chastity mansion but instead of hearing my chains radling, you will hear the sound of my steel chastity cage clanking in your sleep.

 

What if there is no work, should you then starve? What if the government could help stabilize your community and get you back on track, should they not? What if I live in a community that contributes a large share of tax to help stabilize your struggling community? Should we let you die?

 

Scrooge was a hero.......right up to the last three minutes of the show. But even when he chose benevolence HE USED HIS OWN MONEY. That keeps him as an acceptable example to teach children to strive to be like.

 

As I said, I’m a work or starve kinda guy. And yes, that goes for myself, as well, so I feel no guilt expecting the same of others.

 

Life is neither fair nor equitable. It keeps us on our toes, always striving for more and better. It forces us to make choices and accept the consequences, both the good and the bad. If you spend too much, you work too little, you have too many children or you act irresponsibly, then you place yourself in jeopardy of suffering dire consequences. If, on the other hand, you work hard, you conserve your personal resources and breed responsibly you tend to reap rewards. Since life is not fair, sometimes you do all the right things and you still suffer. That’s the breaks. The important part is to deal with whatever you reap on your own. Never ask for quarter and you’ll not be expected to give any.

 

I'll ask this again because you seem to like dodging the harder questions where you can't give a automated response.

If you're so against socialised Tax's, why not move to an area where that doesn't happen.

All i hear is "It's too hot and sunny. Too hot and sunny today. It really shouldn't be this hot and sunny". Well why not move to a place where it's cool and cloudy, instead of trying to convince the people that love the weather where they live that they're wrong.

Aren't you working with the global fossil fuel industry, that touches every other industry in the world? Sounds like you could live and work anywhere you'd like.

 

He's too stupid to engage in a hypothetical Lucy, or he'll Lie to himself and us about what he'd do in that situation. No fucking way in the WORLD would he just go with "well i guess life just isn't fair and i'll lay down and die" if he was ever in that position

 

@Blue Moon
If I acknowledge my debt to those that lived and died before me, I’ll have to credit them with, amongst other things, the language I use, and all the concepts and inventions they came up with such as: taxes, roads, internal combustion engine, political parties and political systems etc. Looking to the future, and with a view to the prospects of those close to me, I think it’s a safe bet that people I don’t know, being people currently alive, or yet to come, will invent new things that will help (the offspring of) my friends and family. I’ll invest in that bet, over the alternative, namely that (the offspring of) my friends and family will be self sufficient till the end of time.

 

he doesn’t answer because he doesn’t know what to answer...never been in such situation so no reason to think about it...

 

Merry Christmas ya’ll. It is the Christmas season. I’m gonna jump in now.

As this is a public forum, everyone is entitled to post their opinions and we all should be grown up enough to let people have their say and not judge.
Every controversial topic on here becomes like this thread. Why? I would honestly like to know.

Good bless you all.

 

Very well. You have a right to your opinion as do I

Just for the record, due to my upbringing, I don’t trust anyone.

 

Antidotes to views espoused on this thread:

1. The Book of Job (either a Christian or atheist interpret, both work)
2. The Grapes of Wrath - yes Steinbeck always sentimentalises but that final scene rips you apart. What did the Joads do wrong in their lives?

 

Ummm, no. None would be necessary because I pay my insurance premiums. That’s another one of those responsible choices people must make. Or do without.

 

Fuck no. You can tell A LOT about a person based on their opinions. If i said "In my opinion i think the earth is flat" you would consider me a moron.... and you'd be right to do so.

The whole idea of a person being able to say some incredibly stupid, uninformed, thought bubble, and we're supposed to shrug our shoulders and pretend that it's just a difference of opinion like a preference in music or colour........ That's madness.

Stop protecting the idiots and MAYBE we can shame them enough to actually do some introspection and think for a change

 

Feel better Mistress?