Being able to pull out

There isn't one. If you are pulling out, sneaking around, cheating, coming without permission, or otherwise defying the expectations, you don't yet understand what chastity is about. It's not about some mythical impenetrable cage (although that would be nice), it's about mental commitment and follow through. No single person here is caged against their will. We all want it to one degree or another. So put on your big boy pants and stay locked until permission is given (emergencies aside).

You can get back in a cage using the nylon method, so there's that.

Of course, there are some people who enjoy the "be bad, get punished" game, so there's that too.

 

I feel same way if you asked for it why cheat. Most successful cage is willpower. The cage itself is more symbolic to me. Granted having it on with no idea where key is a huge deterrent. At same time some people struggle with legitimate porn addiction and the like though. They're trying to do right thing but lack the needed willpower hence wanting the high security aspect of it

 

This is my my madam likes my spiked device, I could pull out but I would shred my cock!

 

I am in the minority. I like the idea of being able to escape or cheat. For me the desire is to have a cage that I can’t escape from (that doesn’t use a piercing or tether spout). I find the thrill of a cage to be the removal of my desires. My free will wants to experience pleasure. Not willingly lock myself up.

 

What spiked device do you have?

 

If the cage is only a symbol/reminder of a mental commitment, why do you need a key or even a cage? Why is a label on your dick not sufficient?

For me it is a big MENTAL thing, that I cannot pull out, regardsless of my commitment.

Sorry to break the ‘news’, but it is easy to pull out and get back in while in the shower. Knowing that I cannot, changes the way I think and feel about it.

 

What cage do you have? Piercing?

 

Double post.

 

Its called the iorn maiden, it’s a custom device that mansion member castmenow designed, and he was kind enough to modify the design to my measurements. Pics are in my gallery.

 

Once I showed my partner how fast I could pull my dick out of the cage pictured and put it back in (out in under a second, back in in under 5 seconds), the tether became a permanent part of my life.

Even though I have to use a stocking to get the ring on so its quite tight its ridiculously easy to pull out of and put back in while its locked, barely any point wearing it if not for self control.

The tether keeps the cock within 5mm of the front of the cage, no escape without using emergency key or her key. Its possible to tag the tether, then it wouldn't even matter if i had the key.

For many knowing escape is impossible makes a difference mentally.

Of course I could go and buy stuff on the sly and make myself cum in the cage, but that would be premeditated murder and defeat and betray the whole dynamic, all that stuff is locked in her tool box. Once that box is locked I forget about trying to work around the cage or get an orgasm because I know I cant.

 

And the tether spout goes in the urethra correct?

 

I can testify that there are some cages that are escape proof without added attachments. I has a spot in my penis that i wanted to put some medicated cream in. i had pulled out of my cobra cage plenty of times to readjust things. I tried to get out of my new BAWR cage and found the way the scrotum is pinched between the ring on either side of the lock cylinder, that i could not bull my penis out. maybe if i pulled hard enough at the skin i could force things but that causes pain and not worth it. so, for me, this cage is escape proof.

 

Yes it does but the retainer (ie the end of it) sits at the same depth of a PA, just without the hole. There are many threads on this so I wont go on about it.

 

Just because you can doesn't mean you should
Isn't life all about trust and for me pulling out would be breaking the trust we have between us

 

Why is the key needed if it is only about trust?

Not being able to pull out, is not about preventing pull outs, its about changing the MENTAL game.

 

I see both sides of this, you shouldn't really be wating to or trying to pull out but the mind fuck is defo better if you cant and that's totally off the table IMO

 

Every cage is very easy to defeat. The ones with barrel locks you can just use a key from another device (they only have a few variations). Screw keys can be copied fast by anyone competent in a garage, you name it- it can be defeated fast. The cage is there to keep an honest man honest when temptation sets in. When you wake up at 6am filling your cage and just desperately want to wank but you can't. But in the end it is all about trust. Like they say- locks are not there to keep out the bad guy, they are there to keep the good guy good...

 

Yeah I agree but I think its more the psychology for most people, anything can be removed with the right tools but there is a big difference between pulling out in 5 seconds or needing serious tools, the burg walcher locks are a lot more secure than the cheap Chinese ones. I think with a PA or tether spout it is fairly secure and the best we can get without going full belt. That would defo deter me, I wouldn't want to cut or damage my $400 cage lol

 

My BAW has a Burg brand lock and one of my cheap Chinese barrel style keys opens it (the ones that say "BDSM" on it). Funny part is the mate to that key doesn't open the lock. Having a spare key is not serious tools. Plus, my cage fits really well and it is a bitch to try and pull out. And getting back on is even worse. Unless I'm in the shower, then it is easier with soap.

But what we are talking about is 2 different mentalities. There are those who commit to being locked up and would not dream of cheating and those who would cheat if given the chance. It's the same as with life- some people marry and would never consider infidelity while others would. It brings us back to the nauseating conversation of is chastity real if you can defeat the device. For me, my chastity, as well as my marriage is real- even if cheating is possible (and cheating is always possible)....

 

Well said.

If the male wants chastity but cheats, she might say, we quit if it this happens again. Would really hurt him.
Maybe it is about trust again. He should address physical limitations. But it are the mental limitations, what it is all about.

Did a chaste guy ever enjoy cheating? If he did so, maybe the whole situation needs an evaluation.

 

Agree, there are ‘trust’ people and ‘security’ people. Nobody is right or wrong, everybody should do whatever makes them happy.

I just always get a bit upset, when the ‘trust’ people claims that ‘security’ people is not committed, are cheating or is doing chastity wrong.

I need a certain level of security for my mental game to work, below a certaint treshold and I do not see the point. If your level is different, I have zoro issues with that, just enjoy what you are doing.

 

Yeah im exactly the same, I have no intention of cheating but I like the mindfuck of being owned as much as possible and being able to pull out breaks the illusion a little for me.

 

i think some men cud get out of any cage so the best thing is that is that if the KH finds out what they been doing then they shud have a good smacking and that migt stop the man then doing it again/

 

I very highly disagree!