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    CDC DIRECTOR ROCHELLE WALENSKY GETS INFECTED WITH THE CHINESE CORONAVIRUS
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    5 times vaxxed Dr. Walensky - who blatantly lied last year when she proclaimed "Vaccinated people do not carry the virus and don't get sick," - has come down with Chinese Coronavirus just one month after receiving the latest bivalent 'omicron-tuned' booster for the disease. (No doubt, she will still be getting her dividend check from Pfizer.)

    See:
    https://twitter.com/ianmSC/status/1583861253675503616

    https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1583880340363673600




     
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    You may ask. But I'm not going to answer publically.
    With all of the insanity, all I'll say is you can take an educated guess based on my post history in this thread, and you'd probably be right.

    That said, I won't blame it on the vax. I'm more likely to believe that the virus may be slow to show common symptoms. I'm wondering if it lays dormant for awhile, then impacts the respiratory system before showing obvious symptoms.

    I will say I do believe that the vax is likewise doing some real serious stuff. And it also wouldn't surprise me if it too does stuff like this.

    The post above of folks dying "unexplained" makes me really wonder what is going on. Add the New England lab disclosure and while I'm not frightened, I'm beginning to get more and more concerned about what's coming next.
     
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    It's called Lawfare.
    Earliest version we know of is Cain and Abel, when Cain tries to claim he's not responsible for his brother. They KNOW the truth, they're intentionally denying it and pretending the laws don't mean what they say.
     
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    Well ... let’s see if gets invited to any of Black Face Justin’s parties in the future?
     
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    Doubt it. She will be off the Christmas card list now.
     
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    More like ... “FORCE FED.”
     
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    PFIZER’S FALSE NARRATIVE BEGINNING TO CRUMBLE
    • The premise behind Chinese Coronavirus jab mandates and vaccine passports was that by taking the shot, you would protect others, as it would prevent infection and spread of Chinese Coronavirus;
    • In early October 2022, during a Chinese Coronavirus hearing in the European Parliament, Dutch member Rob Roos questioned Pfizer’s president of international developed markets, Janine Small, about whether Pfizer had in fact tested and confirmed that their mRNA jab would prevent transmission prior to its rollout;
    • Small admitted that Pfizer NEVER tested whether their jab would prevent transmission because they had to “move at the speed of science to understand what is happening in the market ... and we had to do everything at risk”;
    • Many have known for well over two years ... and that includes Pfizer ... that the shots were never tested for transmission interruption. In October 2020, Peter Doshi, associate editor of The BMJ, highlighted that trials were not designed to reveal whether the vaccines would prevent transmission. Yet everyone in government and media insisted they would do just that ... and Pfizer just played along ... acting fat, dumb and happy ... while getting unbelievably RICH in the process;
    • As a result of mandating Chinese Coronavirus jabs and vaccine passports based on a blatant lie, millions have suffered potentially permanent harm and/or have died. Millions have also lost their jobs, forfeited careers and missed out on educational opportunities. This all happened because we DIDN’T, nor we we allowed, to “follow the science”;
    • Over the last three years, governments and the mainstream media have promulgated the lie that the Chinese Coronavirus jabs will prevent infection and transmission, telling us that anyone who doesn’t get the shot is selfish at best, and at worst, a potential murderer at large. Anyone who refuses poses a serious biomedical threat to society, hence the need for tyrannical heavy-handedness;
    • It was all a lie from the start. A medical fraud. The frustrating part is that many have KNOWN for well over two years that the jabs were never tested for transmission interruption, ... especially Pfizer ... yet everyone in government and media insisted they would do just that while Pfizer just went along with the scripted program; and
    • It was never about science or protecting others. It was always about following what is now very obvious: a scripted and predetermined narrative that sought to get experimental mRNA technology into as many people as possible.
    BUT WHY??

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    https://media.mercola.com/ImageServer/Public/2022/October/PDF/speed-of-science-pdf.pdf
     
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    In 2009 Pfizer were found guilty of the biggest medical fraud in history and were fined $2.3 BILLION DOLLARS.

    In 2020 they committed a much larger fraud, and are still committing it to this day.

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/just...gest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history

    CNN reported...

    Feds found Pfizer too big to nail

    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/04/02/pfizer.bextra/index.html

    CNN's Special Investigations Unit reveals internal company documents on Bextra and Pfizer's health care fraud. Watch at 3 p.m. ET Saturday on CNN.

    (CNN) -- Imagine being charged with a crime, but an imaginary friend takes the rap for you.

    That is essentially what happened when Pfizer, the world's largest pharmaceutical company, was caught illegally marketing Bextra, a painkiller that was taken off the market in 2005 because of safety concerns.

    When the criminal case was announced last fall, federal officials touted their prosecution as a model for tough, effective enforcement. "It sends a clear message" to the pharmaceutical industry, said Kevin Perkins, assistant director of the FBI's Criminal Investigative Division.

    But beyond the fanfare, a CNN Special Investigation found another story, one that officials downplayed when they declared victory. It's a story about the power major pharmaceutical companies have even when they break the laws intended to protect patients.

    Big plans for Bextra

    The story begins in 2001, when Bextra was about to hit the market. The drug was part of a revolutionary class of painkillers known as Cox-2 inhibitors that were supposed to be safer than generic drugs, but at 20 times the price of ibuprofen.

    Pfizer and its marketing partner, Pharmacia, planned to sell Bextra as a treatment for acute pain, the kind you have after surgery.

    But in November 2001, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration said Bextra was not safe for patients at high risk of heart attacks and strokes.

    The FDA approved Bextra only for arthritis and menstrual cramps. It rejected the drug in higher doses for acute, surgical pain.

    Promoting drugs for unapproved uses can put patients at risk by circumventing the FDA's judgment over which products are safe and effective. For that reason, "off-label" promotion is against the law.

    But with billions of dollars of profits at stake, marketing and sales managers across the country nonetheless targeted anesthesiologists, foot surgeons, orthopedic surgeons and oral surgeons. "Anyone that use[d] a scalpel for a living," one district manager advised in a document prosecutors would later cite.

    A manager in Florida e-mailed his sales reps a scripted sales pitch that claimed -- falsely -- that the FDA had given Bextra "a clean bill of health" all the way up to a 40 mg dose, which is twice what the FDA actually said was safe.

    Doctors as pitchmen

    Internal company documents show that Pfizer and Pharmacia (which Pfizer later bought) used a multimillion-dollar medical education budget to pay hundreds of doctors as speakers and consultants to tout Bextra.

    Pfizer said in court that "the company's intent was pure": to foster a legal exchange of scientific information among doctors.

    But an internal marketing plan called for training physicians "to serve as public relations spokespeople."

    According to Lewis Morris, chief counsel to the inspector general at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, "They pushed the envelope so far past any reasonable interpretation of the law that it's simply outrageous."

    Pfizer's chief compliance officer, Doug Lanker, said that "in a large sales force, successful sales techniques spread quickly," but that top Pfizer executives were not aware of the "significant mis-promotion issue with Bextra" until federal prosecutors began to show them the evidence.

    By April 2005, when Bextra was taken off the market, more than half of its $1.7 billion in profits had come from prescriptions written for uses the FDA had rejected.

    Too big to nail

    But when it came to prosecuting Pfizer for its fraudulent marketing, the pharmaceutical giant had a trump card: Just as the giant banks on Wall Street were deemed too big to fail, Pfizer was considered too big to nail.

    Why? Because any company convicted of a major health care fraud is automatically excluded from Medicare and Medicaid. Convicting Pfizer on Bextra would prevent the company from billing federal health programs for any of its products. It would be a corporate death sentence.

    Prosecutors said that excluding Pfizer would most likely lead to Pfizer's collapse, with collateral consequences: disrupting the flow of Pfizer products to Medicare and Medicaid recipients, causing the loss of jobs including those of Pfizer employees who were not involved in the fraud, and causing significant losses for Pfizer shareholders.

    "We have to ask whether by excluding the company [from Medicare and Medicaid], are we harming our patients," said Lewis Morris of the Department of Health and Human Services.

    So Pfizer and the feds cut a deal. Instead of charging Pfizer with a crime, prosecutors would charge a Pfizer subsidiary, Pharmacia & Upjohn Co. Inc.

    The CNN Special Investigation found that the subsidiary is nothing more than a shell company whose only function is to plead guilty.

    According to court documents, Pfizer Inc. owns (a) Pharmacia Corp., which owns (b) Pharmacia & Upjohn LLC, which owns (c) Pharmacia & Upjohn Co. LLC, which in turn owns (d) Pharmacia & Upjohn Co. Inc. It is the great-great-grandson of the parent company.

    Public records show that the subsidiary was incorporated in Delaware on March 27, 2007, the same day Pfizer lawyers and federal prosecutors agreed that the company would plead guilty in a kickback case against a company Pfizer had acquired a few years earlier.

    As a result, Pharmacia & Upjohn Co. Inc., the subsidiary, was excluded from Medicare without ever having sold so much as a single pill. And Pfizer was free to sell its products to federally funded health programs.

    An imaginary friend

    Two years later, with Bextra, the shell company once again pleaded guilty. It was, in effect, Pfizer's imaginary friend stepping up to take the rap.

    "It is true that if a company is created to take a criminal plea, but it's just a shell, the impact of an exclusion is minimal or nonexistent," Morris said.

    Prosecutors say there was no viable alternative.

    "If we prosecute Pfizer, they get excluded," said Mike Loucks, the federal prosecutor who oversaw the investigation. "A lot of the people who work for the company who haven't engaged in criminal activity would get hurt."

    Did the punishment fit the crime? Pfizer says yes.

    It paid nearly $1.2 billion in a criminal fine for Bextra, the largest fine the federal government has ever collected.

    It paid a billion dollars more to settle a batch of civil suits -- although it denied wrongdoing -- on allegations that it illegally promoted 12 other drugs.

    In all, Pfizer lost the equivalent of three months' profit.

    It maintained its ability to do business with the federal government.

    Pfizer says it takes responsibility for the illegal promotion of Bextra. "I can tell you, unequivocally, that Pfizer perceived the Bextra matter as an incredibly serious one," said Doug Lankler, Pfizer's chief compliance officer.

    To prevent it from happening again, Pfizer has set up what it calls "leading-edge" systems to spot signs of illegal promotion by closely monitoring sales reps and tracking prescription sales.

    It's not entirely voluntary. Pfizer had to sign a corporate integrity agreement with the Department of Health and Human Services. For the next five years, it requires Pfizer to disclose future payments to doctors and top executives to sign off personally that the company is obeying the law.

    Pfizer says the company has learned its lesson.

    But after years of overseeing similar cases against other major drug companies, even Loucks, isn't sure $2 billion in penalties is a deterrent when the profits from illegal promotion can be so large.

    "I worry that the money is so great," he said, that dealing with the Department of Justice may be "just of a cost of doing business."
     
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    Albert Bourla, pfizer CEO (a veterinarian), was working there at the time. He started working there in 1993.
     
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    That too.
    This article doesn't mention that. I think because they wanted to outline what Lord Fauci and Smuckerburg were doing. I'd love to see how much China and the big Pharma companies put in their pockets.

    As for your comment.
    Name calling especially calling someone racist or sexist or homophobe or similar things is one of the main "weapons" of the sheep. What they don't get is many of us are now at the point that we laugh hearing them slew such things.

    It amazes me people can be so stupid. I've had people call me racist. They don't know me. Have no clue of my career and who my friends are. The sick thing is it doesn't matter to them. And trying to reason with them is like arguing with the preverbal pig. (Folks if you don't know what this is look it up) Worse, often I find people that spew this are actually what they call others.
     
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    I would LOVE to be a fly on the wall at The Esteemed Little Elf’s deposition!
     
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    WELL ... WHADDA YOU KNOW?

    Sleepy, Creepy, Crazy, Perverted Uncle Joe Vows Crackdown On Virus Manipulation After Disclosure of Boston University’s Killer Coronavirus Experiments
    • Feeling the heat, The Demented One’s Administration will crackdown on potentially dangerous experiments, it was revealed last week;
    • In a new document, the Clown House laid out the danger of lab-created weapons (duh ... you think) and how to combat them;
    • It was unveiled in the days following the revelation of potentially dangerous research at Boston University;
    • The school combined two strains of Chinese Coronavirus and created a version with an 80% kill rate in mice; and
    • Some have criticized the school for performing potentially dangerous 'gain of function' research.
    See:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...-manipulation-research-official-document.html

     
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    I don't think there will be depositions. As aren't those only in civil cases?

    I'd rather be on the jury.
    I'd try to be impartial but I can't see a vote for anything but the maximum sentence.
     
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    Yes
    Yes there will be. It’s all starting with civil cases:

    - Fauci, Jen Psaki, and top Biden officials to be deposed in free speech case.

    - Missouri AG approved to depose Fauci, others over tech censorship.

    Once they get him on the record, who knows where it will lead? Of course, his lawyers will make sure he pleads the Fifth so as not to incriminate himself.



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    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/courts/fauci-psaki-top-biden-officials-deposed-free-speech

    https://hayspost.com/posts/23cde0a8-0718-42e4-b89a-474523eebf58
     
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    oh ok

    Wanna bet they claim some sort of privilege to try and weasel out of this?
    It'll be interesting to see how things go.
     
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    The methodology needs to be verified but...

    Less Than 1 In 100 Million Chance That COVID-19 Has Natural Origin: New Study
     
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    Why does no one care? If they were covid deaths it would be headline news and we would be locking down.

    No one even notices this level of deaths. No one would have noticed covid if it wasn't on the news every day.

    If the NHS is not overwhelmed by these deaths every week it would not have been overwhelmed by covid.


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