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    #101 thundar, Jul 25, 2018
    So banks practice findom? Seems to be an attack on the borrowing practices of the world
     
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    #102 lockit, Jul 25, 2018
    Its in the bar for off topic threads. Whats the point? I have no idea its like its ready to make some point about findom. Without actually being seen to about findom. I am a bit lost too.
     
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    #103 thundar, Jul 25, 2018
    Is off topic the same as way out there? If so then I appologize
     
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    #104 Mascara^Snake, Jul 25, 2018
    Surely if you don't understand the thread then it would be a good idea to stick to writing in those threads that you do understand rather than launching an unhinged and unprovoked attack on the original poster?
     
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    #105 lockit, Jul 25, 2018
    It would seem the original poster does not understand it. It was wrote while tired.
    I read the thread and I did not see the point of it. I am not the only one that has not grasped your logic.
    I understand now the thread was an attempt to make a point but never actually got there.

    There was no unprovoked attack. You seem to think debate is when everyone agrees with you.
     
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    #106 thundar, Jul 25, 2018
    I don't think I made an unhinged attacked.
     
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    #107 Mascara^Snake, Jul 25, 2018
    No you actually didn't Thundar. I'm sorry if you got that impression. I was actually refering to the same old CM bullies and apparently one new one.
     
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    #108 pablo23, Jul 25, 2018
    You take a loan and pay interest. If you do not pay, you will have unpleasant consequences. That's kind of
    socially acceptable servitude to some financial institution. That's not "just a service" as in the longer period of time you receive less than you give. It can be compared to some findom situations I believe.
     
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    #109 Mascara^Snake, Jul 25, 2018
    Exactly, when you choose to borrow money then you become a paypig by paying large sums of money in the form of "interest" to the lender whos rich lifestyle you are supporting.
    And there are consequences/penalties if you fail to pay.
    This is financial domination and is deemed to be acceptible if not a "fact of life" as some have said here.

    Whereas "Findom" in the realms of BDSM is considered unnaceptable.

    I couldn't help wonder how one is ok and the other not.
     
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    #110 pablo23, Jul 25, 2018
    Maybe most of the people are less afraid of bailiff's case than blackmail :)
     
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    #111 Mascara^Snake, Jul 25, 2018
    Well actually blackmail is not part of Findom anymore than it is part of anything other than blackmail.
    You could say that a financial institution threatening to sieze someones assets if they don't pay or put them in jail is blackmail?
     
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    #112 L-u-c-y, Jul 25, 2018
    It does seem like an attempt to shame.

    Before you created this thread we had a private conversation where I told you I had a student loan..You said I was in servitude to a bank and I should sell myself as a sex slave to rich arabs instead, you said you had some contacts who would pay a good price for my white skin and you could arrange it.

    Shame on you, even if it was said in jest, which I doubt.

    Then you made a bizarre post about europes elite abusing sex slaves. You are going in circles.

    You seem to be insinuating that everyone who takes a loan is a fool and they haven't looked into alternatives first.
     
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    #113 pablo23, Jul 25, 2018
    Well, I said it because I see a lot of findom Ladies on twitter from my country and here blackmailing is still part of it. But that's not a point. I just wanted to show that you are right and sometimes we have two similar situations. One is common and acceptable ane the other one is treated as a quirk. Maybe because of different motives of taking credit and playing findom
     
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    #114 Mascara^Snake, Jul 25, 2018
    I always recommend people sell themselves to rich Arabs as sex slaves ;-)

    Actually what I was doing was drawing parallels with regard to different forms of financial domination. Some acceptable some not.

    With regard to borrowing money and whether that is a good idea or not (a different subject altogether) I was suggesting that if you are young and have not yet borrowed any money, don't think of it as being an acceptable thing to do or a fact of life.
    There are better ways to spend your life than being paypig supporting the rich lifestyles of lenders.
    I think that's very good advice actually.
     
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    #115 Mascara^Snake, Jul 25, 2018
    I think you may be getting Findomming confused with "sextortion".
    Normally a findom would take care not to damage the finances of her paypig in order to ensure that her source of income is secure.
     
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    #116 L-u-c-y, Jul 25, 2018
    Of course you know better about peoples personal situations than they do. What would they do without you to remind them.
     
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    #117 Mascara^Snake, Jul 25, 2018
    I suppose they would have no reason to wonder about borrowing money and simply regard it as a fact of life rather than questioning it.
     
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    #118 pablo23, Jul 25, 2018
    Well it is when it's done by a mature Ladie who want to do it long term.

    If it comes to rich arab looking for sex slaves I guess I am not enough attractive :D
     
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    #119 Mascara^Snake, Jul 25, 2018

    I'm sure I could find a good price for you ;-)
     
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    #120 L-u-c-y, Jul 25, 2018
    I'm most people have a good think before taking a loan, even the "poor commoners".

    You said that I would be treated better as a sex slave than I would be treated by a bank.
     
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    #121 jemima, Jul 25, 2018
    Arab men has lots of horses as well.
     
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    #122 Mascara^Snake, Jul 25, 2018
    Well I have to say, it's probably true. A rich arab may well have more concern for the welfare of his purchase than a bank might
     
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    #123 winstonmacgregor, Jul 25, 2018
    The difference between the two is that we are all conditioned to believe/desire to be a member of the social class that benefits from the opportunistic banking policies. So we accept it in the name of "that will be me someday". Findom is frowned upon because it involves (almost always a woman) using her allure to get men to hand over their money to them in exchange for nothing. You are being used in both scenarios, the second one is maybe viewed as a form of psychological manipulation maybe? That is why it is looked down upon.
     
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    #124 Mascara^Snake, Jul 25, 2018
    I think that the Findom exchange is her giving time to the paypig or client in way which satisfies his fetish. If he got ansolutely nothing in exchange then I'm sure it simply wouldn't work.
     
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    #125 Digital, Jul 25, 2018
    Appear this thread has grown complex and controversial and I'm sure there are some interesting arguments being raised although from a completely neutral perspective there has been a disappointing amount of trolling and snipping.

    Back on topic and it seems this thread combines a lot of complex debates.

    Should a Domme be providing a service?
    This is a very tricky topic but in the real world I feel a Domme should really have duty of care over there submissive. There submissives are a representation of there domminace so if they are out of control it shows a major negative on the quality of a domme. They are better having one quality submissive than 1000s of bad ones.

    Services are provided at different levels of qualitie be it from a bank, financial advisor, plumber, mechanic, lawyer, doctor, submissive, Domme or Findom.

    Some of the range of services different Findoms may advertise as providing are:
    Blackmail, humiliation, domination, chastity, training, communication, photos, videos, genuine quality financial advice or they will simply ignore you (being ignored appears to be a kink) and enjoy your gifts. Like any service if you do your research you get what you pay for.

    Debt is a very complex point of discussion. People are born into different scenarios some more fortunate than others. But in life there are lots of tough and tricky decisions you can make to improve or complicate the situation.
    These decisions are made harder by the traps and hurdles modern society has developed in order to suck you in to giving up as much money as possible.

    The reason a lot of people struggle to see a link between findom and a loan is because they are focusing on 2 different ends of the spectrum as this is the quality they are used to. But if you are open minded enough to see the entire scale there are similarities and connections which can be drawn.

    Hopefully future posts can provide a more intellectual discussion instead of resorting to imature trolling.
     
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