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    Thanks to @littleguy3 for mentioning Karezza to me.

    Karezza is a lovemaking style/technique where orgasm is avoided. As a concept, this is fantastic. Hours of sex. Intense highs and connections. Totally transformative.

    On a practical level, how in the world does one achieve it? I am very interested in it. For me, it's because my wife loves PIV (so what am I complaining about). But I cum too quick and then I'm in a funk for a day. Orgasms are getting to be a bit of a bore. (Can't believe I'm saying that. See what chastity will do.)

    Does anyone else practice this? Do they have any success? If so, how can you manage:

    1) intercourse
    2) don't ejaculate
    3) keep your wife interested

    I do #1, #2 happens. If I pull out or stop moving, I lose #3. Karezza talks about "The Block". A method to pull back from the edge and avoid orgasm. I tried. I failed. Anyone have ideas?
     
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    The Multi-Orgasmic Man provides a good foundational understanding. https://www.amazon.com/Multi-Orgasm...4601&sprefix=multi+orgasmic+man,aps,79&sr=8-1

    And exercises to try. Learning to master your energy, and especially sexual energy to circulate it through your body, light up different/all parts of your body and have non-ejaculatory orgasms.

    Urban tantra is a more modern version that has stuff for women, too.

    https://www.amazon.com/Urban-Tantra...1695825006&sprefix=urban+tantra,aps,77&sr=8-1


    It takes practice, especially learning how to breathe properly. (https://www.amazon.com/Breath-New-S...h&qid=1695824709&sprefix=breath,aps,78&sr=8-1)

    Breathing properly will affect every aspect of your life and change nearly everything about you, making things like this easily possible.

    Mix this with chastity and orgasm control and it's wildly exciting. To go for months with effectively no control over when sexual activity happens, to those moments of stimulation, teasing, etc, and not being able to ejaculate is tremendous fun and powerful. PIV after a month or two of no orgasm, and not being allowed to orgasm is a special thing. :)

    Learning orgasm control in itself is liberating because you aren't bound to "must ejaculate" as part of sex. This hits on #3 because if your wife can really tune into her body and feminine sexual energy, can ride the waves of your masculine energy (which gets really amplified after weeks/months in chastity). She'll find it totally yummy. Everything becomes much more intense for both of you.

    Blend in tantra, breathing, meditation, mindfullness, good exercise, etc.
     
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    Most important thing is to realize that what you’re trying to accomplish is the equivalent of going from couch potato to running a marathon. Also, hours of orgasm free sex that Karezza tempts with is not hours of sprinting style sex.

    Prior to me being locked, PIV was me fucking my wife, lasting just long enough for her to orgasm and then me promptly finishing. Now that we’ve flipped and I am locked by default, she is also taking on the role as the top. When she unlocks me for PIV it is expected that I will not orgasm unless she decides. What this entails for us is she gives me Viagra, she is on top, I let her know if I am getting close to orgasm so she stops to give me a chance to recover. While she is on top fucking me I am tasked with doing whatever it takes to not orgasm, if I need to mentally check out the viagra keeps me hard so she can continue enjoying herself. I also find that breathing and for me kegels help. It wasn’t an easy path to get to that point, I can’t be the top and not orgasm and my wife had to compromise to allow me breaks, in the end it was worth it.
     
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    Yes we have and my mistress/KH/wife also requires PIV often, so we learned about karezza exactly because of the ejaculation downer, you know without it denial causes this intense build up to where I could orgasm spooning in bed still locked and I hate loosing that feeling. So now onto the karezza trip, it works it’s wonderful but I simply cannot stop myself from losing it … it’s wonderful but last time actually three days ago I failed in my attempt to stay orgasm free and now I have to start that buildup all over, oh my I think it’s all part of this great chastity experiment, don’t see an end to it soon. Locked in love ! Keep on keep en on….
     
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    It takes practice, self awareness, and self control.

    Forget about orgasms, accept that you won't have one. When you truly accept that then you'll shift your focus to other things, such as pleasing your lady.

    Stay well away from the edge, don't even go close.

    Slow down. Your wild horse brain will want to race to the finish, but there is no finish. So why are you racing? Think about it and reason it through, things will become clearer.

    Learn to breath into your feelings and ride them like a wave, meditation helps a lot.

    Don't despair or give in. Dig deep, you can do it.

    193 days since I last had an orgasm(of any kind) and we fool around and make love a lot. It is difficult but it is worth it.
     
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    That's encouraging AF. I will talk to my wife. I think she definitely will need to be involved and aware or she will wonder WTF am I doing stopping, going slow, pulling out, etc. She tends to be the female version of the horse racing to the finish too. I'll need her to go slow as well. She's probably going to start kicking me.
     
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    I think this is probably crucial to success!

    Have her read some more information on it, to really understand what you aim to achieve.
     
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    Jay, what are your thoughts on edging...once you start to master control? I love being edged and teased without being allowed to orgasm. Like...for weeks or months of sessions. Riding edges under her control is so fun. And the frustration of not getting release at the end makes for such great buildup of energy.

    But I know there are circles that frown on edging (for various reasons), and edging vs circulating energy (tantra-style) are different things. It's fun to do both at different times for different effects.

    I can do non-edging circulation if I relax and breathe really well that can go on for a long period. But it's fun to push into the edging/towards ejaculation space from time to time as well.
     
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    Absolutely...one to not freak her out or confuse. But also to get her help and support. She can make it super fun if she knows what she's helping you do.
     
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    I'm not jay, but I'll chime in with an opinion. I have loved edging. I had recognized a long time ago that I could edge instead of orgasming while masturbating. Either to prolong the session, or to get a little release without shooting the whole load. It does not cause the post-orgasmic blues so from that perspective, it keeps a guy focused as is probably ok. On the other hand, it is a form of masturbation that does distract. I've also found I'm a little less horny afterwards. My guess is, for the best effect, edging is something to avoid.

    I've lumped edging in with masturbation in my chastity experience. Meaning, I've been locked for a month. I have not edged at all. I did fail once, got hold of the key, and jerked-off once. I've corrected that and it won't happen again (famous last words).

    That last sentence there about it not happening again made me reflect a bit. Am I really saying that. Am I ok with never jerking off again for the rest of my life? Never edging either? (sex with the wife excluded). Hmmm. Interesting question.
     
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    #11 JaySaysYes, Sep 28, 2023
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    It's bad for you. It's part of the dopamine chasing cycle and is ulimately an empty experience.

    If you stop having any sugar, then soon enough everything will taste sweet. Edging prevents you from experiencing everything as sweet.
     
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    Another perspective on edging, that goes in line with my overall experience and the breathing and energy circulation I described. And hits on Jay's points about the dopamine hit and negative aspects.

     
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    He's basically saying to not edge.
     
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    I found it a good video to point out, as you say, typical edging - to porn, hunched over a table, sustained on edge, poor breathing, clenched, is bad.

    I liked that it points out the contrast of that with relaxed, tuned into ones body, breathing and circulating energy is a good path to take. And I have found the arousal and sensations here can be amazing. Especially with connection at the hands of my wife to drive me crazy and challenge me to stay relaxed, breathe well, circulate the energy, and not clench up. The effect is not the same as that high intensity edging, but feels very good and builds great sexual energy. Especially without orgasm. And is a good way to train on different techniques to build energy without resulting in ejaculation.
     
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