Do ruined orgasms count as an orgasm

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Do ruined orgasms count as an orgasm

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  1. SubHubbyInChastity
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    I don't mean stimulation until the first spurt then stopping. I mean a true, honest, ruined orgasm. What I'm talking about is where there is absolutely no feeling, one where the cum just "flows" out. The only sensation I get is it sort of feels like I'm peeing.

    I keep a spreadsheet of data each month. I keep track of my Wifes orgasms, mine, and time spent in chastity. I have separated my orgasms into two columns ruined/full. Would like to hear you all's opinions, or if i should combine that column.

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    My mistress says any male fluid that comes out of penis that is not pee counts as a orgasm.
     
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    My wife says they do.

    She also says my nocturnal orgasms count as well.
     
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    i think they dose cos after it happen theres mess everwhere in there.
     
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    I think everyone's play differs in this. Some count them and some don't. My Mistress doesn't count them as orgasms. She likes to ruin mine because when done right she can go right back to teasing moments after and ruin another and another until I am out. I don't feel any part of an orgasm and I would tell her if I did because her goal is for me to not feel a thing. When I orgasm she can't go right back to touching. I am far too sensitive. Okay, she can and sometimes does keep touching but that's post orgasm torture at that point.
     
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    In the way you describe it in my opinion they don´t count. I voted "no" but it´s meant only if the stimulation stops more than 5 seconds before the first drob.
     
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    To me it counts as an orgasm. Even if it's not as fulfilling.
     
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    It depends on what goals you set while entering the lifestyle and the limitations of you or your KH. IF it was masturbation control and you were supposed to keep your hands to yourself, it does count. If its was just ejaculations you wanted to keepin check, it doesnt.
     
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    If it's not urine it counts as an orgasm to Me. So enjoy it.

    MistressS
     
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    In my experience a "ruined orgasm" counts as an orgasm......but what is lost is that a "ruined orgasm" has a totally different feelings....ranging from just pressure and leaking.....but oftentimes can even be painful. In either case.....they are not pleasurable.
     
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    If that is how you feel and run your sessions/play then, yes. But I would not say there is much enjoyment in it? I guess there is enjoyment to a degree even if there is no orgasmic sensation at all.

    I have yet to have a ruined orgasm be painful. But I suppose that is how one ruins them. I have read the method of pinching or capping off the urethra with the thumb to stifle an orgasm and that does not sound at all like it would feel good to have done. Yes, a ruined orgasm is completely different in terms of feelings and any hormone release that may occur during a male ejaculation. It's not the same for me at all. I happen to be one of those men whose interest in sex drops off a cliff after an orgasm. I do my best to mitigate it, but I need some time for my system to reboot and calm down.

    Perhaps I can work up to where it works in my relationship that she can give me a release and then we keep heavy playing. After a ruined orgasm for me not much alters. But it has to be done correctly and at the right time too. In my experience if there is a spurt rather than dribble out then there are different feelings afterwards. They are not major if I spurt and I soon recover, but I can emotionally feel it even though the physical sensations are roughly the same. I don't know what other guys feel, but there's nothing after a ruined orgasm. I suppose getting one assists maybe in just feeling backed up so to speak?

    My Mistress does relentlessly tease and she enjoys it. And she will do it to the point to where I get to the edge quickly when touched. That's no fun for her cause she wants to do play for a bit at least. Since She realized that she can ruin an orgasm and it makes it a bit easier to play longer, that has been something she does. I get ruined and she keeps going. For some reason I get a slight reset after a ruined one and can last longer before the edge. Perhaps that is similar for most men. I have not asked.
     
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    They count if she says they count.
     
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    In our relationship, She says it counts and has told me there will be NO orgasms of any kind until She is ready to let me have one.

    The best I get, which I REALLY DO enjoy, is to share Her orgasm. THAT is nice!

    ~subrick
     
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    From my perspective any stimulated spill counts the same. However, also my perspective, the mental impact and mental recovery is much different from a full 'O'. While there is physical pressure relieved, the mental drop I have is not comparable.
     
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    I wasn't sure when opened thread. But after reading replies, i have to agree they do count. In some ways, they are the best kind of O, because they leave you unfulfilled and wanting still. Plus you have a release to consume, which helps your submissive attitude.
     
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    Right there with you.
     
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    The clue is in the Title - Ruined ORGASM!
    If you emit fluid other than pee, whether it gives you pleasure or not, it's consistent with relief and should be considered an orgasm IMHO.
     
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    it has "orgasm" in the name, so....
     
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    My wife says they count for me, I’ve been allowed two caged orgasms during this latest lockup period so far.
    I couldn’t believe using the wand actually worked, and they provided some pressure relief with very little to no drop in lust or the sub mentality.
     
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    I don’t think so. When done properly a ruined orgasm takes edging right to the very edge. There is none of the pleasure associated with a full orgasm. You don’t see stars or profess your undying love to the person who administered it. You feel a crushing disappointment and helplessness that all stimulation was removed at the most inopportune moment. It also does not dampen your sexual desire and frustration (especially as you watch the cage being slipped back into place and locked).
     
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    well Mistress tell me that men dont have orgasm and only Ladies do. and what men has is just making mess cos it only last a second.
     
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    My wife and keyholder doesn’t call ruined orgasms orgasms if I don’t twitch. If I pour out and spill cum without twitching, then I stay hard and wanting. I call those perfect ruined orgasms.

    It’s more about how my body and mind reacts.

    She can tell if I’ve had an orgasms. Confused or not. My body and mind change states after an orgasm. There’s nowhere to hide.

    I voted no.

    I also asked urologists and they agreed I can have ejaculations (or what I called emissions) without orgasm and I’ll be fine living without climax.
     
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    We’ve recently discovered ruined orgasms and now have become the only way I am released. Although I thought they would be incredibly frustrating, they are actually a way for me to ejaculate up to three times in a row with no drop after. Definitely a game changer for us!
     
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    Ruined is no orgasm like @Peter Rabbit describes, so called "a perfect one" and no twitch. For me this needs dedicate handling and real slow motion with many starts-stops. These are the ones that can be frustrating as well.

    Once my Love is less slow, no touch and I do spurt, I become flaccid more quickly afterwards. These feel more - but not entirely - as an orgasm. My recovery time I need after spurt is also less than after a FO.
     
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    I only receive full or ruined orgasms under supervision every 1-3 weeks. I'd say it is definitely an orgasm but there is an obvious difference in quality. The end-result - me eating cum - stays the same.
     
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