Covid-19 and Life

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    More deaths every week than during the height of the panicdemic, yet no one cares.

    More deaths and no one even notices.

    Where is the panic? Where is the alarm? Where is the 24/7 media coverage?

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    It is election time here in the US so all federal agencies with government appointed leadership are going to do their best to suppress all negative information; this would happen regardless of the party in power.

    In the UK, your government and economy are (also) in turmoil, and I suspect government leaders will do everything to suppress additional bad news. Your leaders are (also) likely circling their wagons.

    I would guess, that excess death should decline after a pandemic, as the members of our population with the poorest health would have been killed by the virus in increased numbers. Though, if millions of people didn't receive normal medical care for two years, perhaps this wouldn't be true; cancer, diabetes, cardiac, and similar diseases might cause increased death if untreated for extended periods. I would expect this to be more true for older people than younger people. It seems there should be a decrease in the number of elderly deaths; though this may have only been true for a short period time, perhaps months.

    Simply thinking out loud.
     
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    The article shown in Lucy's post surmises that lack of care during Covid is the cause of these increased deaths:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/11/01/crisis-excess-deaths-soar-levels-higher-covid-pandemic/
     
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    Good video. Of course we know the answer to his rhetorical question. What amazes me is to what degree no one seems to care excess deaths are now about 5 times higher than during the plandemic.
     
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    Your speculation may be true Viper. And I’m sure it is true at least to a degree. But doesn’t that bring us to the same conclusion anyways? That the lockdowns did more harm than good? Dead is dead.
     
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    From linked to article:

    "The most obvious red flags were that approximately 95% of Covid mortalities had multiple serious comorbidities and the average age of death was around life expectancy. CDC statistics show that 95% of Covid-related deaths list an average of 4 comorbidities, while 5% list Covid as the only known cause of death. Such comorbidites include cardiovascular disease (10.5%), diabetes (7.3%), and cancer (5.6%). The average age of Covid-related death is 77 years old."

    "In the early stages of the pandemic, the metric based on the 30-day time frame was more useful, according to Goebeler. Even then, there were relatively few false positives. The median age of those who have died after positive coronavirus tests has risen since last spring from 84 to 85. The median age for men is 81, while for women it is 87."

    ""Most deaths now occur at the very end of the natural life cycle," said Goebeler. "You can count on the fingers of one hand the number of patients under 60 who have died solely from Covid since last March," she added."​
     
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    FOR YOUR VIEWING ENJOYMENT

    “LIVE FREE”
    By
    THE REFUSERS

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    I do not. The beggars of “amnesty” will imprison you in a heartbeat
     
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    Art imitating life.
     
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    When did you first notice the world was going mad and descending into woke chaos?

    This was the first incident for me, in 2017.

    And then a couple of years later it was everywhere.

     
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    If I had to guess, somewhere around 1998, round numbers.
    Prison Planet, Info Wars, Natural News (health pages), and then Daily Sheeple...
    Little Green Footballs, Ace of Spades, Fred Reed I think he was, (Fred on Everything, I think a dot-net now), and way too much sci fi and fiction reading. Stainless Steel Rat and Deathworld Trilogy were favorites, also the Startide Rising book by David Brin, plus I'd read a lot of OLD literature (Middle English and onward.) Analysis of The Handmaid's Tale alongside Canterbury tales, and a broad range of people met and listening to, even interacting with my father, an expert in fire and explosions, and his coworkers, rocket scientists and engineers - Lots had happened, so I was early to "wake up."

    Because the principles of human behavior predate the Yellow Emperor's Treatise on Medicine and the Tao Te Ching, and the Book of Five Rings, and even the written version of the Bible.
    Once you start connecting the dots, it all comes together - and it's not a pretty picture. E.G., the nun in grade school tells you one thing when it's the two of you, and another when the parents are present. Same situation with teachers in High School. And a helicopter Mom type, before the term was invented... Put it all in a blender, hit frappe, and the Rorscach splotches reveal a ton...
    Most obviously, put the damn lid on the blender first. ;-)
    But you hear what others say about those splotches, and.... You learn what THEY see, and learn who they are.

    Machines... In fleshy form.
    Well programmed machines. E.G., Piggly in Lord of the Flies, "What would adults think?" Or the Animal Farm, or Ransom of Red Chief, Lucifer's Hammer, Quantum Leap, Knight Rider, Airwolf, Blue Thunder, Star Trek, but you see it in Gilligan's Island, too...
    Etc, etc, etc.

    How we haven't made ourselves extinct already, I don't know, but we keep trying harder... Despite what we've seen in the Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, The Black Hole, Alien / Aliens / etc., Terminator, Little Women, Adventures of Tom Sawyer, Beatrix Potter stories, it's an endless list, and from Richard Scary et al to David Brin to Harry Harrison to Adam Smith - principles drive people. Rules of power, rules of seduction, rules of etiquette; fear of loss and anticipation of gain.
    And it's echoed in psychology textbooks and history books, then re-told in Deus Ex or Doom or (insert game or story here.)

    Humans are humans, just like sheep or wolves or snakes, they operate by certain rules. Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs dovetails with the rest.
    And then you learn to mirror everything, so you're not being assaulted - would a boy do this? Would a boy do it this way? Is this being girly? Get hit a few times for having emotions, and threatened with more if you don't stop crying... Yeah, principles, again.

    I cannot understand how so few people are REALLY aware of what's going on. The people MUST be willfully blind.
     
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    Some of this may stem from the idea of pandering to the wants of the students, trying to attract the largest student population possible. In the US we have built very expensive 5 star resorts to entice young adults to spend 4+ years doing as they please. College enrollment was decreasing, at least until the current federal administration announced free college education for everyone, at least $10-20,000 in free tuition.

    This college president clearly wasn't in charge.

    It may sound odd to place the students in charge, but over 20 years ago I witnessed elementary school aged students being placed in charge of a learning environment, and as you may imagine, it wasn't very productive. When an adult took back control of the situation, needless to say the students weren't happy.

    If your school system fails, then soon follows your city, county, state, and nation. Which students populations are becoming more educated, and which less educated?
     
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    For me it was around 2011 when the city of San Francisco banned infant male circumcision while keeping abortion legal. Their reasoning was that the male infant had no choice in the matter. As if the fetus did.

    The two actions don’t reconcile. But we as a populace were told that it did.
     
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    Contained within an article about US Monetary Policy, and is supposition:

    "Then February 2020 came along. As best we can tell from documents that we’ve pieced together and connections we’ve made, Powell was likely getting phone calls and office visits. They were not only from Anthony Fauci but also from the National Security Council and FEMA, which was then itching to take over pandemic planning. They eventually did.

    "Powell was surely told that the virus was much worse than a regular flu bug. It was a result of a lab leak in Wuhan, China, the one funded in part by US taxpayers indirectly through a grant from the National Institutes of Health. But now this very lab has released a bioweapon. That meant that national security was at stake.

    "We are at war, he was likely told, and he’d better get on board. He didn’t want to but, at the same time, it’s better when you are Fed chairman not to be accused of sedition in the midst of a major national security operation.

    "And so, he decided to go along. The long march to profligate credit expansion began with lowered federal funds rates on March 5, 2020. This was before lockdowns had begun in the US and before Congress had allocated any money to states and the pandemic response. Following travel restrictions, the release of the HHS pandemic plan on March 13, and especially following the March 16 lockdowns, each step toward easy money was more extreme than the last...


    "Public health officials made every effort to make apocalyptic predictions come true. They distributed deeply flawed PCR tests, and subsidized hospitals provided they declare Covid deaths, and encouraged misclassified people all over the place. The National Security Council and FEMA, along with the CDC, set out to get Big Tech and the national media to join them in the holy crusade against the pathogen

    "But there was a problem. As time went on, it became ever more obvious that the pathogen behaved like a textbook respiratory virus. It was severe in the elderly with comorbidities but had only a 0.035% infection fatality rate for anyone under the age of 70. Meanwhile, the lockdowns that the Fed’s money pumping made possible killed more people than the virus, based on excess death data from 2021. And the vaccine that was supposed to solve all the problems didn’t work as advertised.​

    https://brownstone.org/articles/maybe-the-fed-too-was-trolled/

    https://brownstone.org/articles/governments-national-security-arm-led-the-covid-response/
     
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    More recently: we can't force women to have a baby, by banning most abortions, but we can force EVERYONE to get a vaccine utilizing new unproven medical technology.
     
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    PSST ... WANNA STOCK TIP?
    Short Life Insurers - Long On Funeral Service Cos.
    Business is GOOD for companies that specialize in DEATH. Today Service Corporation International, the largest for-profit funeral operator in North America, had its quarterly earnings call. SCI had another great quarter, you’ll be pleased to hear! So far in 2022 the company has made almost $500 million in profits - and its stock is up over 15% since last week's earnings report.
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    As Thomas L. Ryan, Service Corporation’s chairman and chief executive told investors last Wednesday in a conference call:

    If you go back in this industry and particularly with SCI, year-to-year you would see the numbers of deaths -- probably in one year you may be down 1% or 2%, in the next year you're up 1% or 2% which you could predict was pretty good accuracy over a year and over a big footprint like ours what was probably going to happen… 2020 comes along, Covid, game-changer, right. We're having to do at one point of time 20 percent more funerals which is unheard of in a year versus, let's say, a year or two before.” ...

    What we're telling you is, the third quarter of this year, we did 15% more calls than we did in the third quarter of 2019. That is not what anybody would have anticipated and that has just a very de minimis amount of Covid deaths in it.”

    Hmmm .... the Chinese Coronavirus is pretty much history .... but it seems that it’s the gift that keeps on giving ... for funeral industry .... because people just keep on dying in record numbers.

    Yet ... the U.S. is hardly alone in seeing a large and so far unexplained spike in deaths in 2022.

    Countries from England to Germany to Australia to Taiwan are also seeing similar trends.


    They all seem, have something in common. Could it be mRNA?? Inquiring minds want to know?

    Now, on the other hand, what’s good for the grave diggers is BAD for the life insurers. Market participants were somewhat stunned when Lincoln Financial announced results last week and shares collapsed over 30% after a shocking, and unexpected, $2.6 billion Q3 loss.

    “A Catastrophe (and Not the Natural Kind),” Wells Fargo Securities analysts said in a note to clients Wednesday night, following the after-market release of earnings by the Pennsylvania life-insurance and annuities company.




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    Lincoln National group insurance death payouts for working age in USA 18-64 yr olds. 2019 is pre covid and is the baseline, 2020 covid hits no vaccine 9% increase, 2021 covid still here but now add the vaccine a 163% increase:
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    So ... the moral of the story ... don’t get vaxxed ... Go Short On Life Insurers - Go Long On Funeral Service Providers ... and you’ll be just fine!

    See:
    https://filecache.investorroom.com/mr5ir_scicorp/248/download/SCI Q3 22 Transcript.pdf

    https://twitter.com/MichaelEvanson1/status/1587966802403143680

    https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/st...y-large-quarterly-charge-PYqkl7e15V2oyz4xxm81

    https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/the-funeral-business-is-booming-and/comments


     
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    Yet another very useful and interesting post. Thank you Fit.

    My wife works in the HR realm. She hears the sales pitches insurance companies give to companies for group policies.

    All sorts of “discounts” if you have “wellness programs”, don’t smoke, do screenings, etc.

    NONE have added “getting vaxxed” as a discount.

    We can all forget what we hear anymore. Just trust our eyes. Like you said, death is booming. Insurance is not. The govt is still actively bribing you to take one and only one medical treatment. Why? Never mind what they say.
     
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    IT’S ELECTION DAY HERE IN THE U.S. AND IF YOU BELIEVE THE POLITICAL PUNDITS CHANGE JUST MAY BE IN THE CARDS

    - If So -
    Then it’s time for accountability. Health Nazis and Government Tyrants weren’t just wrong once and then changed course. No, they’ve doubled, tripled and quadrupled down on their errors, even in the face of overwhelming evidence that they were wrong. The price society has paid for their errors is far too great for them to ever be let off the hook.

    Never Forget:

    • Chinese Coronavirus jabs were never tested for, or proven to stop transmission;
    • The jabs were not 95% effective but actually increased the risk of getting Chinese Coronavirus;
    • The fatality rate of Chinese Coronavirus was around 0.005%;
    • Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine worked;
    • Masks don’t work;
    • Lockdowns did more damage than good;
    • This bioweapon came out of a lab, funded by and/or associated with The Esteemed Little Elf: and
    • "Safe and effective” turned into “sudden and unexpected death”.

     
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