Do dominant mothers make submissive men?

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    The following post in a different thread got me thinking:

    Going back several generations on my mother's side, it is clear that my family is essentially 'matriarchal': my sister, mother and grandmother are (or were, in the case of my late grandmother) very much in charge of their respective marriages. My father's second wife also heads their marriage. (However, my mother's sisters are quite submissive in their relationships.)

    Throughout my own life I have desired to be submissive towards my partners, but have found that truly dominant women seem to be quite rare. Thankfully, my KH has a strong personality and enjoys being in control of our relationship.

    So, my question is: whether by nature or nurture, do dominant mothers and submissive fathers make dominant daughters and submissive sons?
     
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    In my case, my mother was narcissistic and my father was pretty much avoidant of the drama that accompanied her scary mood swings. So from my child’s perspective I understood that as dominant and submissive. Certainly I had to be submissive to my mother, or be very much in the doghouse. Not a literal doghouse, unfortunately.
     
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    I think they can, but not always. I think if there isn’t the natural instinct of being submissive then it can have the reverse result.
     
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    Definitely. Lots of misogynists with mother issues out there
     
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    I always feel conflicted with this sort of discussion. There are plenty of serious observations I could make but tbh I prefer to wallow in hot, edgy fantasy.
     
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    This all seems abit freudian to me. All mother issues and cocaine lol. I'm more jungian.
     
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    Typically we learn from our parents how the world works. If the mom is dominant then you learn to accept those traits as an adult. You tend to act in a way that is familiar.
     
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    Nature versus nurture is always an interesting discussion.

    I grew up in a very matriarchal family. I argued a lot with my Mother and still do. I never considered myself to be a submissive person, normally I have a quite dominant personality. I've been told many times I'm very stubborn.

    However, I was recently reflecting on prior relationships and realised that well before I knew anything about kinks it was always the woman who took the lead sexually, I was always responding to what they wanted and I enjoyed that. On two different occasions I got passed around between friends who gave me a good "review".
     
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    Jung was a Nazi charlatan. His work is worthless and inane.
     
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    Freud was you wanna bang your mom here's some coke.
     
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    As far as nature vs nurture. I believe nature plays a huge part in who you are but it's not a blank check to be an asshole you're whole life. Ultimately you're in charge of improving yourself as a person. Nurture or lack of it plays a role, too much or too little can cause definite issues. Again though not a blank check to have a victim mentality you're whole life. We define who we are as people not nature or nurture.
     
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    Oh I see you’re just mucking about - apologies for outburst about Jung, I thought you seriously rated him and there are few people I hold in more contempt, get furious at the mere mention!
     
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    I like certain parts of his work. Mainly dreams and archetypes. In end though neither him or freud are anywhere near infallible.
     
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    That sounds fun, Did you enjoy that experience?
     
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    My father was abusive, and my mother let him walk over her. Therefore I am attracted to strong women who don’t take any crap. I also refuse to be the kind of person my father was, so I suppose that makes me at least somewhat submissive.
     
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    I did enjoy that very much. They were more experienced than I was, I think women mature earlier and the people I dated tended to be the same age or a year or two older than me. I'd always remain friends with people I dated, and that sometimes turned into ex girlfriends asking "do you want to date my friend?"
     
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    Thanks to everyone for your contributions.
    Some very thoughtful and interesting replies!

    It seems to me that personality traits are inheritable, much like physical traits are, too. Perhaps my mother inherited the 'leader' gene from my grandmother, but her siblings did not?
    It also seems reasonable to presume that dominant women would naturally pair with complementary, more submissive men (otherwise there would be too much fighting for dominance within relationships). So, there would likely always be a mix of dominant and submissive 'genes' passing from generation to generation.
    However, nurture has an important role to play, also: we can indeed learn from examples set by our parent.
     
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    I'm not submissive, and all of my partners throughout my life have been strong dominant smart driven women.

    I like a partner who can work alongside me, as equals, not someone to dominate me or tell me what to do.
     
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    Nature vs Nurture - there is strong evidence that we are not our genes and that most of what makes us who and what we are comes from our environment.

    Epigenetics is a fascinating subject :)
     
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    This was my situation as well, my mom was a DV victim and due to the social mores of the time divorce wasn't an option.
     
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    Nothing special about my parents but my father pretty much ignored me because I was a feminine sissy boy. So I started out submissive and always remained that way to both other boys and girls and then men and women when I was older.
     
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    Its so comforting to have a strong woman in charge who knows whats best for her sissy boy and knows what she wants in life and she can run the household her way. Any hired help to embarrass you.
     
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    a strong personality combined with emotional blackmail throughout adolescence. that would make a great D/S story!
     
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    My wife and I are equals in our marriage as well. But, I am sexually submissive, which I bleed over into sone domestic servitude. But, all of our kink was started by me, so she really likes me caged and T&D, it may have been my idea, but she likes it way more than I do, lol! Outside of her sometimes “being the boss” outside the bedroom, we are largely equals, though I am slowly but surely helping her learn to be comfortable to take control outside of the bedroom. Neither is us wants an FLR, but I’d like to to lean heavily FLR
     
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    My wife's mother is dominant in her marriage. And I think my wife tried to be more dominant in the early days of our marriage, but struggled with that because I had a more dominant nature and I think I wore her down. But when we started with chastity and I asked her to hold the key to my sexuality the old girl returned.

    She doesn't come across as a dominant. When I have asked her for a release for something other than hygiene and grooming she has gently but firmly denied me every time. She likes to be in charge in the bedroom. She wants me to serve, pamper, and care for her in a very passive way without her needing to ask me to. And that is unlike her mother-in-law who is much more vocal and expressive of her wants.
     
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