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    yes indeed they are. But my point is, how come it’s ok to get medical and surgical assistance to transition but not to overcome another form of lifelong body/identity dysmorphia? I’ve spent half a century struggling with my sexual orientation but can’t go to my GP and get my penis amputated. And doubtless if I risked bleeding out by doing it myself I’d be referred for psychiatric treatment! Plus a whole bunch of people were recently prosecuted for performing consensual body modifications on one another. The distinction seems arbitrary and bizarre to me.
     
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    The difference, to the best of my knowledge, is repeatable results with treatment. Hormone treatment and surgeries have been shown over many decades and thousands upon thousands of cases to ease gender dysphoria and improve quality of life for those who suffer from it. As far as I know, there is no surgery or other treatment that is proven to repeatably change a person's sexual orientation.
     
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    It’s not a matter of changing sexual orientation though. It’s a matter of bringing the body into conformity with the sexual orientation. I feel way better about myself since I was permanently locked in chastity, but I do still have a penis and get erections. I’m hoping to reduce erections by wearing KTBs as much as possible in the hope that the pain will condition me in the direction of erectile dysfunction. But what would be so much more effective would be penectomy - no more temptation, no more sensation, no need for equipment, no possibility of reversal.
     
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    for some reason I had in my mind that this is what a eunuch was! I thought this was done to the solders as they thought the frustration made them angry and better warriors. Now I’m wondering where I got this from!
     
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    well according to Freud the castration anxiety which occurs in the resolution of the Oedipus Complex is the fear that the Father will cut off the boy’s penis to prevent him from incestuously possessing the Mother. And following Freud, Lacan understands the phallus as the Nomdupere, which is a sort of pun in French because it means Name of the Father (nom du Pere) but sounds identical to No of the Father (Non du Pere) - so that the phallus becomes identified with the “I” which it visually resembles, but it’s detached from the body of the subject (the son) and becomes the possession of the Father, leading the son to identify with (submit to) his father and thus enter the symbolic order of social life constructed by patriarchal law. This further leads Lacan to offer his famous aphorism that “man HAS the phallus, but woman IS the phallus” ie the woman is the object of male desire in the post-Oedipal universe.
     
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    that’s very in-depth, but I’m sure I saw it on a documentary once, was just trying work out where!
     
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    Lucan further (and rather amusingly) defines heterosexuality as “desiring the other sex” and asserts that since in patriarchal culture Woman is “the other sex”, people of either sex who desire women are heterosexual, whilst those who desire men are homosexual - so in a Lacanian understanding straight men and lesbians are heterosexual whilst gay men and straight women are heterosexual.
     
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    On the television in your own subconscious.
     
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    “Lucan” in this post is a typo for Lacan, but interestingly “Lord Lucan is missing”, rather like the Phallus in Lacan’s symbolic order, where it becomes “le petit objet a”, the ever-elusive object of desire which inhabits each thing we wish to possess, but only until we possess it, whereupon it jumps into the next object of desire leading us on an eternal wild goose chase…
     
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    … and of course the other typo in this post is that it should say that gay men and straight women are homosexual, not heterosexual. But since it’s 01:15 in my time zone I’m too tired to concoct a fanciful psychoanalytic explanation of why this typo might conceal some elegant hidden truth…
     
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    I thought chemical castration and hormone blockers are the same thing
     
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    I have experienced the chemical castration thing.

    For me it was not a particularly fun experience. Ended up feeling old and depressed. My objective at the time was to lower my libido because I wasn't getting any sex or intimacy in my marriage. It failed when I discovered it wasn't sex I needed it was love and intimacy. Now she is my ex wife lol. So all that exercise did was make me more depressed and dark about things.

    But yes reversible, but you can also fuck yourself up badly so anyone considering this tread carefully.

    The endocrine system is kind of like a flywheel though, when I stopped taking the drugs, it took about 6 months but it kind of overshot the mark and I ended up hornier than ever until things settled back to normal over the course of about 9 months. I think if you took them long enough though things might become more permanent.

    That said ill still sometimes take a micro dose of cyproterone acetate when my night time arousal become too pesky in the cage, a micro dose of that stuff doesnt seem to affect anything else except that.

    I used a mixture of cyproterone acetate and finasteride and it pole axed my testosterone levels to the point where I could barely manage a weak orgasm with a lot of effort to the point it wasn't worth the effort, and no ejaculate came out at all. The other thing that happened is my fingernails kept breaking, now I understand why women paint their nails with epoxy..lol.

    Both of these drugs are know as anti-androgens, the former used to help treat prostate cancer, the later used to treat pattern baldness and can easily be purchased online. They are not hormones, more over anti hormones. Both of these drugs effect different types of testosterone. There is another one called Dutasteride but I have not had any personal experience with that, at the time I did this it was not so well known, but its meant to be better at treating hair loss.

    I spose the idea of my partner using chems on me is mildly interesting, because we have a lot of love in our relationship, but she would never consider it, she doesn't really like me micro dosing, and i don't do that much any more anyway, current cage they dont seem to bother me any more

    Playing with bands on the other hand is something she has liked, especially when she cut them off and I flop around from the sting of it lol.
     
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    Interesting information.

    Im cutious, why reduce the horniness innthe cafe, doesnt that defeat the purpose?

    I thought the intense arousal and frustration was the whole point
     
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    Depends on the cafe. Some have rules about “no horny patrons”
     
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    Cafe? I must be missing something
     
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    Lol, I See, I have never been to a cafe where my erection would be visible had I had one
     
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    Yet it was you who first brought up the whole subject of cafes
     
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    Sounds like a waffle
     
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    You’ll need to be more specific
     
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    Hahaha, I missed that typo and didnt have a clue you were teasing me on it.

    The interface makes for common typos on my phone for some reason-frustrating
     
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    What’s terrible is I very often engage in protracted and obtuse trolling of people about their typos but then in the middle of doing so, make one myself and thus loose my smug superior posture
     
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    Like earlier in this very thread when I was pompously showing off about my knowledge of Jacques Lacan and made 2 typos in one post! Managed to save one by weaving in a pretentious musical reference but the other was unrescuable.
     
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    Admission is the first step to recovery LOL
     
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