Real chastity starts only with PA

Not to mention the fact that destruction of the device (or even the lock) is usually going to be apparent to the keyholder, so ... that’s a deterrent, unless you don’t care about repercussions of that.

 

Thank you. Bottom line: Literally 100% escape proof is not real. Neither is the “I can defeat any device in mere seconds or minutes” BS. Security is a matter of degree, not absolutes, and the degree required is subjective.

 

Buy a really expensive device and it will break your heart to damage it. Like several thousand dollar cage. Go for titanium, it is hard to cut. Security screws plus Loctite should suffice. If even this does not work, create an extensive, reputation destroying, financially ruinous blackmail portfolio and hand it over to your keyholder. Voila.

 

Say what you want but real chastity starts when you accept the rules and don't try to defeat the cage. Regardless of how it is place on you.

 

I think it starts when the key holder “buys in” to the lifestyle. You can have a full proof inescapable cage but if your key holder leaves the key on the night stand and doesn’t care wether or not you are locked up then nothing has started. Conversely, if you have a cheap cage that you can pull off but a key holder that takes note and deals out punishments or rewards then real chastity has begun.

 

I've come to the opinion that real chastity can happen via self-locking. I know that may not sound ideal for many on this forum but hear me out.

As many have stated on this forum, it can be very difficult to reach inescapable chastity. Fit options, hygiene, life circumstances... all may require release.

For many, maybe most, the dance between the desire to please another through denial of self vs the urge to experience the ultimate sexual pleasure are the primary reasons for chastity.

If you don't have a KH or your partner is not willing to participate in chastity, you can determine to lock yourself for the purpose of becoming a better person outwardly so that you can attract a mate or so that you can become more attentive and caring for your current mate. By locking yourself up so that you have adequate deterrance from giving in to the urge to pleasure yourself, chastity becomes "real". You may have to use a timed key safe or other means to prevent yourself from accessing the key. The deterrance feature stops you from going over the edge, from gving in when frustrated, keeps your hormones regulated, and from making a mistake that you will regret later by controlling your behavior.

If your chastity starts to interfere with your intimacy with a current mate, then chastity & relational intimacy have started to intersect and a conversation needs to take place to discuss goals. This becomes the perfect opportunity to bring a relectant partner into the practice of chastity as long as the benefits to your mate are clearly apparent.

For those who don't struggle with masturbation, the game of chastity is more of a tool to enhance your sexual experience. The tease & denial; the game of control. Without a willing partner, then it becomes pointless to self-lock. Chastity becomes like any other sexual practice outside the norm like anal sex, oral sex, and the use of other toys, etc.... if both parties don't enjoy it, it has to go by the wayside.

 

I voted "Yes", BUT, many folks have made excellent points on why this is not an absolutely true statement.

PROS OF A PRINCE ALBERT PIERCING (PA)

• It's a mind fuck to submit to being pierced!
• It takes a long time to get over how hot it is to see a piece of titanium go in one way and come out another.
• Properly used, it offers a high level of physical security.
• Looks cool.
• Definitely offers a psycholgical boost to both the Keyholder's and wearer's feelings of commitment to chastity and to the overall chastity experience.

CONS

• Does not make chastity perfectly inescapable.
• Can require extended healing and fitting time.
• Permanent
• Can make you pee funny... ;-)
• Does not do anything to prevent orgasm while in chastity.

But on balance the psycholgical and security impacts are pretty significant and for that reason add a lot of punch to the chastity experience. It is possible to replicate some of these impacts with things like a full belt, and some anti-pullout systems, but both are more subject to defeat that a piercing based device.

Successful chastity is always a matter of finding a balance between security and wearability, while serving the aesthetics that make chastity such a turn-on in the first place.

ShieldingMatrix

 

Very good consideration, especially for self locking. While slightly trending away from the initial topic this idea is worth an own thread to empower self lockers.

 

Elaborate. I was under the impression that other than breaking the lock, you are stuck. Obviously, doing so would incur the wrath of your keyholder.

 

Now you've got your reason for not getting a PA!

 

Any lock can easily be picked…

 

I don't agree that you need to get pierced for it to be "real" chastity. I find even just wearing a device gives me a reminder of who I am in the relationship and that I do not have permission to cum.

I can take it off myself, but it would be a massive betrayal.

On a practical point, I think the issue with chastity and security is we're trying to lock up effectively one of the most flexible parts of the body.

Maybe some day soon a new innovation in chastity devices will come out and will be a great leap forward in comfort, security and hygeine but I haven't seen it yet. I absolutely dream of a really innovative device that just ticks all the boxes but we'll see.

 

But notice how he didn't actually want out in the end.

I can easily see how chastity can escalate to a PA. A new challenge, a new level of (even perceived) control. But in the end it is still a mental commitment.

 

I think this a beautiful take on the premise of chastity and so well put… thanks for sharing it.

I would also say that chastity only becomes real when you decide it’s real to you in your day to day. If you are committed , then uphold your commitment and embrace it. Whether or not self locked or with a partner /KH , if you embrace the challenge, the sacrifice and the potential benefits it offers you and others in your life by being chaste — well congrats to you… sure seems and sounds real to me.

 

Well said!

 

I don't know if PA is done in my country. Who does PA ? Surgeons ?

 

Piercing pros. Anyone who does nipple piercings is a good place to start. Sometimes there's heavy overlap with tattoo businesses as well.

 

Consequences aside, I was talking a bout security in the "absolute" sense, that "inescapable devices" are for fantasy stories. Any device is escapable. It's always a balance between security and comfort, and a quality PA based device does provide an excellent level of security and reasonable comfort.

 

I would say….
Wearing my steelworxx Cage is kind of fun…I could pull out and coming in it is not that difficult…
So real chastity for me starts in the moment when my lovely wife locks my belt on me (BBCS)…
That is a completely different feeling plus I/we didn’t manage it yet to bring me over the edge in that belt although I have a lot more space in the tube.