Nocturnal erection, again...

Hi,

it does depend on what “quite some time” is of course.. it took me a couple of months with cage on/off overnight. Sometimes not at all, sometimes for a few hours and took it off after waking due to the pain and over time I managed full nights…

Going to pee would help to take the pressure off but still it does take quite some time for the body to get used to it.

I found that sizing is of a big influence.
Ring, gap and cage!
For me, the cage girth helped a lot. Better be a bit on the “wide” side.
Length is best to be a bit on the short side.

 

The biggest improvements for me was getting a lightweight custom titanium cage and wearing snug boxer briefs that keeps everything aligned. Of course I still wake up every night with me trying to break free so I have instinctively reset my 4am pee break to coincide with cage straining events. The other aspect is time. The more months you pile on in experience the easier it gets.

 

You need a shorter cage. Much shorter.

 

It sound right yes cos you new at be caged but after a bit it wont do it and then you be able to sleep better. If you dose what the man sayed above and get a littler cage that migt help as well.

 

You can also curl your knees into your chest this will help with the pressure. I have been wearing one at night for quite some time it, though it took me a long time to find a device that fit / worked for me.

 

I am going to hijack this existing thread because nocturnal threads are abundant here.

Last night, I wore my titanium BAWR cage for the first time overnight after a full day starting at 11am. I made it until 7am this morning and finally took it off, partially out of fear. I had no issues with it during the day. But I woke up at 2:30, 4:30, 5:30 and 6:30 from erections. I would wake up and try to wait for it to go down and pass out and dream and wake up again an hour later. I don't know if it ever fully went down or not. Finally, at 7:30 I started worrying about medical issues and took it off. I didn't have ball burn (like I did the last time I tried wearing a chinese steel cage to bed) but I felt like my dick was trying its best to break through the titanium both by expanding out and pushing forward. The pressure was intense enough to wake me up every hour.

My cage is 64mm long, 35mm ID, 11mm gap, and 38mm ring. The gap is comfortable, the ring allows one finger, and my flaccid state sits right at the end. The ID is just enough to cause indentations from erections but no edema.

I can get an erection in the day in my cage and it feels fine (even a little good) and it goes away naturally. At night, the erections are a different beast altogether. It's like a day-time erection is 75% but a night erection is 110% power that has no intention of going away. I am 6" hard but it felt like my body was pushing 6" erection behind the cage and another 2" (including my balls) forward in the cage!

HERE'S MY QUESTION/FEAR:
Is what I am experiencing in terms of a rock hard erection that doesn't seem to subside normal or is my ring too small? @bemfem - what are your thoughts? I believe my ring is slightly smaller than the girth of my erect penis and I am fearing that I could be causing damage similar to priapism from the ring trapping blood in longer than normal and also generally smashing my balls and head up while being so hard behind the cage. Does this really get better with time?

I am not sure if I am going to try to go through the night again tonight. Waking up every hour is horrible for my sleep cycle. I think if my wife wanted this, I would do it for my sacrifice to her, but with self-locking for now, it's not worth it to prove something to myself. I will continue to lock during the day for now.

 

Did you try to go to the bathroom? I find that solves it for me. initially I would get multiple per night but now it seems I am down to 2 or so with one coinciding with my normal 4am pee. It is more difficult in the beginning but eventually you get used to it (to a degree).

 

Yes, I am typically a middle of the night pisser and half the time I have to wait to let an erection subside before I can go. I can usually count down backwards and by the time I get to 60 or so I am soft enough to piss. Last night I purposefully cut off liquids at 8pm and went before bed. My first wakeup at 2:30 I was able to get it to go down enough to pee. The rest of the night I really did not feel like I had to pee and never went again. My understanding of my nocturnal erections is that they usually seem to happen to prevent me from wetting the bed. After 2:30, they just seemed to be there all night for the purpose of waking me up.

 

There’s no doubt whatsoever that persistence helps. If I take just one week off, I dread the first night back in. But after three days uninterrupted, the body relents.

Shorter is better. The less room to grow, the easier. It’s a leverage thing.

 

I wonder how short it should be when people say this. My cage is 2.5" or 64mm. It seems pretty short and I am almost always right at the end of the cage when flaccid. Like most, I could probably smoosh it another inch to 1.5" but I am not sure what that would be like for general comfort. Do you think that my cage should actually be closer to 1.5" to prevent nocturnal discomfort?

 

Fit is a function of so many things. It’s hard to say what’s best for your anatomy. But TIME will be your friend. Your body will learn to stay soft in a matter of days. But it will also UNlearn a few days later.

The best way to sleep in your cage is to....sleep in your cage.

 

Thank you sensei. Now I know why your avatar is a Japanese symbol.

 

There is tension between the base ring to serve as the cage ring, holding everything in place and the cock ring to promote an erection. If I would have my ring alone, without the cage, and I get hard, it would be crazy. The cage has to rally prevent erection. I had similar issues you describe and it was because my cock cage was too big. I reduced the cage length and that removed some of my issues. Also, the cage ring has to be tight, but it cannot be too restrictive. I had to train my body for night erections. They are really strong. Now, I can sleep well. I do wake up sometimes in the morning, but I am in the stage deciding to ride it off or go pee. If I go pee, my erection goes down quickly. You should not be in stage you think it can be dangerous. However, it will take some time to get used to it. There is certainly some adjustment period, but a property designed cage helps a lot.

 

@ChasteJase It sounds like cage length could really help you. Cutting off the erection as quickly as possible makes sense.

Quick question: what is the difference between your fully erect length and your fully flaccid length? And how does your device measurement when assembled from the inside of the base ring to the tip of your cage compare to your flaccid length?

 

Thanks to you both. My cage length is 2.5”. My flaccid length is a little under 3” and erect is around 6”. Tonight I’m going to try a strap around the cage to see if that helps.

 

I am also a grower and suffer from nocturnal erections pretty much every hour on the hour, I tried to sleep in my small cage thar I wear to work last night and I am now paying the price.
I broke the skin on the side of my penis due to the restriction my wife told me to take it off this morning because she wanted it and I did but it was painful.

 

Is that only the cage length or total length? There is still a gap, and bars have some thickness too. So the total length is cage length + gap + thickness of steel bars the cage is made off. Also is your diameter perfect fit around your penis? I think you might have a bit smaller ring and maybe a bit longer cage. There is really a sweet spot for comfort. If the ring is too big, the cage is pushed towards testicles and that is not good. If the ring is too small, it is less comfortable at night. Same thing with the cage length, to short cage and foreskin gets out and it is not comfortable, but a larger cage allows erection and that is no good. I recently went down the ring size. I definitely can have that smaller ring, but it was much less comfortable at night so I reverted back to the original ring that is a smidge too big. As my scrotum stretches, I might try smaller ring again. On top of that your private parts are all over in length. 99% of time my cage is good fit, and everything is snug yet I have a small room for foreskin, but sometimes my penis relaxes so much I could use much shorter cage. Don’t let that trick you. That is not a natural state. I think when people see it there is a room and panic and try to go shorter cage that can lead to some discomfort too. You really have to watch and keep adjusting the ring size, cage length to make it work. Hopefully your gap is good, but we are talking about night erections and your cage is comfortable otherwise so I am guessing the gap is ok.

 

well some men can get very hard a lot and i think you am one of them ones and you dont want to keep be waked up evry hour cos then you will get poorly so if you can i wud just wear it in the daytime and then you will be ok.

 

To close out this thread (I hate unanswered threads), I never tried another full night after the first night, as I was too tired to risk losing more sleep. As I said at some point, it would be worth it if my wife required it as some point, but I'm far from that point at this phase of my journey.

 

perfect advice!

 

The only real way to get through this is perseverance. I think everyone who moved to 24/7 has the experience of a good week of restless nights (there may be exceptions).
You just have to push though it while the body adapts. Any change of/break from the cage can start the cycle again, but it gets easier each time.

That said, my most recent change barely had an affect at all. I’m now in a REALLY small cage! I’m pretty sure I slept like a baby from day 1.
I’m starting to believe it’s changes to (or getting used to) the base ring that cause the issue. Even a night of slightly more ‘slide-ability’ will cause problems.

 

I found If I do a big hard stretch blood will start flowing to different parts of your body. The body at rest has one place for the blood to go and that is your junk.

 

I have said this many times, Cyproterone acetate in a very low dose will stop night time arousal. For me night time awakenings were very nearly a show stopper. For me this low dose had no side effects other than what I wanted. IE it did not have any impact on my ability to get hard when needed.

You can buy it from in house pharmacy, I get all my drugs from there that I don't want to go to the doctor for. They also sell premature ejaculation drugs even combo ones with viagra.

It takes about 2 weeks for it to take effect, I start out by taking say one every other day till I notice the erections subside...then STOP, they will go away, then when they just start to come back ill take one pill and it usually means about one pill per week.

I dont need them any more because my body is well used to my small cage, sometimes ill wake up with a woody but its not enough to play havoc with my sleep.