Key Holder to Key Holder: My basics

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    Sure thing to be attained as the ultimate goal of chastity. A device is an artificial way to reach that objective, so to say, having males on full control of their sexual desires aiming no more than please their wives/GFs and through that reaching a higher conscientiousness.
     
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    That's the second message from you I've read in the past few days that's resonated on this subject. Men being men, there is a tendency to fetishize the cage, as though that is the be-all and end-all. Obviously, most of the men on here do not think that because they've moved beyond that. But in general I think it's probably true of most men who dabble with the idea of chastity.

    But what you're saying takes it way beyond the cage. It's about the engagement, the mental contact and the mental contract. That is so much more powerful.
     
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    Well said. The psychological elements are far more powerful than any physical accoutrement.
     
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    Thanks Breathe, I would say that if i were more proficient on English, but that's my idea for a better world, women leading not for the will to lead and conquer like men do, but for showing them how life can be more fulfilling with the male sexual desire redirected to another higher center.
    I believe on the power of love to attain that, not with physical power, but with the natural female born mental strength.
     
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    @LesterBallard and @Joan.t I'm pleased to see you bring this up. I'm a newer keyholder, and I keep feeling like I see the same situation again and again, where the men are very focused on themselves, their cage, their experience, almost to the point of overlooking the KH's experience or considering that there may be deeper elements that could be explored.
     
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    Spot on, Lady Moon. When I first started getting interested in D/s it was embarrassingly crude. It was completely about my self-gratification. Over the past year it has deepened and I thought the idea of chastity was taking me to a better understanding of the Female/male relationship. But I see I'm only part way there. Your comments and those of @Joan.t are helping me enormously.

    Thank you.
     
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    @LesterBallard and @LadyMoon , I appreciate your comments.
    Many think when we talk about caging and chasting that we are being naughty and sexual, that's only part of it, there's much more, this is only the beginning of a long journey into the development of mind and soul of men.
    The way I see it, women are the ones that can lead for a better world, teaching men how to surpass the stage of animalistic sex to a higher conscience, that's what I firm believe.
     
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    I think this is undoubtedly true. The big question is how to achieve this on the bigger scale. It is easy, one-on-one, to enlighten individual males, but the male population as a whole is difficult. And particularly the idiots who lead our governments. Oh for a way to enlighten Mr Putin or Mr Trump.
     
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    Easy my friend? Not so, difficult times ahead, even for one-to-one, impossible for the whole male population.
     
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    Yes, perhaps that was typical male arrogance there! You're quite right, seeking enlightenment isn't easy. But we must keep trying.
     
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    I wanted to take a minute and say goodbye to you all. I will no longer be frequenting CM.

    I will still be on FL. Feel free to Friend Request/Follow me there if you're on that site.

    Bye to my friends and followers on here. I wish you the best of luck with all areas that you are exploring.

    Bye.

    M L
     
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    Very sorry to see you go. You have made a huge contribution to the understanding chastity and the role of the KH and the caged male. Thank you.
     
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    @LadyMoon, you may be "a newer keyholder", but you've got it cock on. ;)

    It's about time that males' obsession about themselves begin to change. I personally don't tolerate it anymore.

    Keep up the fight, all the best in exploring those deeper elements that make this worthwhile, and keep us posted.
     
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