Shoe on the other gender

I would honestly love to have my wife behave like this. She can top from the bottom all year if she likes. But, of course, women are different than men. For one thing, most women don't want their lover as a sex slave, and I think most men would probably be okay to ecstatic with it.

 

The female chastity device has actually turned me into a man, I know go out doing manual labour all day while he fucks other women, I’ve grown a beard and he only lets me dress in men’s clothes. He now calls me Dave and refers to my clit as my cock.

 

welcome to the 1950s, when that was all too often (with the phyiscal exception of the cage) the reality for women.

 

Being very happy to switch ether way, I would be absolutely delighted to explore this!

 

There are female subs out there who have that kind of life. Doms too. The only difference is with your post, is you are asking the opinon of a bunch of dom women on a FLR forum. Basic knowledge would say they probably don't care too much on their end about the immediate feeling of their sub, because this life is about their main satisfaction.... but may also say the man in that situation isn't aren't topping, he is just unsatisfied in that role or with that person. Dissatisfaction should be expressed, as that has to do with the actual dynamic. Brattiness, whinging and complaining not as much, if the issues were reasonably expected within the positions that make up the dynamic.

Also, that situation you describe outside of the physical context doesnt just apply to subs, male or female. Many female doms get into chastity because they want more sexual attention from their partner, and from that find that even increased kink and chastity doesn't last fulfilligly with their partner. Some people may be able to ignore the humanities of a relationship outside of FLR/kink, others are dependent on this for a connection with others. If you are only connected in a sexual/kink/dependent way, you are going to feel used when your criteria for that role isn't satisfied. If you are connected in a holistic way, you can try to get satisfaction from other areas given the broader roles, or maybe thats when extramarital relations or divorce/breakups happen.

Personally, I was in a sub position for years, and was proactive in doing things like increased toy play, anal, CP, roleplay etc as a means of trying to seek attention from my dom, and resassurance during his emotional absence. I was also a massive enabler and so I thought trying to providing solutions would make the other person proactive too, but instead he relied on my smarts and skills as a way for him to not have to contribute either to not only us but also himself; all I did was enable an already selfish person to take even less initiative in life instead of matching my motivation for sex, money, careers, outcomes, love and status. I wasn't fulfilled.
((I'm now trying not to be an enabler (or a 'fixer' as my family always say), and being in a dom role has helped with that to a degree...but also comes with responsibility which often makes me emotionally drained))

So it depends. If you are complaining during conditioning/training, thats one thing. If you were asking whether females would be pissed off hearing about other women being in emotionally abusive relationships, we would say fuck yes we are pissed off. If you are asking about women being subs and complaining about conditioning, we would probs say no that's part of it. It you asked about women subs who aren't emotionally fulfilled with the whole partnership, we would say yeah address that asap girl.

Realistically IMO, if you aren't getting the necessary reassurance from your partner that they are as committed to their role with you, as you are in your role with them...then maybe there are broader relationship/partnership (defined however) problems that need addressing (discuss/switch/breakup/divorce/cuck/counselling/swipe left etc).

 

I think there is nothing wrong with the sub expressing what they want within a chastity relationship, when the contract is being made.
If it's made, then the sub and domme both know what is expected of them and the sub should stop topping from the bottom by making it about what they want right now, as that was not agreed upon in the power exchange.
If the sub feels neglected, there are always safe words and if we're talking about a good Dominant, moments for time out discussion of whether the relationship is still going well.

The problem with most 'subs ' proposing to us dommes what they want is that they are usually not our sub and usually don't care one bit about whether we are even interested in a new sub

 

Very interesting reading!