hi there! its really all a matter of preference, but plastics for me are harder to keep clean than metal unless I take it off daily. long term wear, metal is the way to go. just my two cents worth
Hey there! Agreed with all of the above! However, I'm not sure HOW the CB-X range have established themselves as the 'starters model.' They are very adjustable I guess.... But at $150 I'm not sure that's an entry-level price.... There are many fine metal devices at under a third of that price that would do the job better AND be more hygienic.... With a bit of careful measuring for a base ring AND a few tweaks here and there I believe one can get a fine metal device that will enable you to be in chastity for as long as you care to be, and, which will eventually be a good - if not perfect base - for measuring for a bespoke device.... Should you want to go there!!! Have a look on Amazon and DHgate and see how you go!!!! I believe the ones with hinged base rings and concentric circular rings for the cage are both good quality steel AND can be modified by pushing the rings closer together (or further apart). I say closer as we usually over-estimate our size when we start out in chastity!!!! Smaller is definitely better!!! The solid base rings tend to be chrome plated... not good for long term wear and prone to rusting.... Good luck and don't hesitate to ask any and all questions!!!! With the absolute kindest regards. J.
"Metal for long term/hygiene, plastic for starters.... my humble opinion....." This is my experience as well. The CBx devices were good for me as a first option, as they included a large number of ring and spacer sized. As you are first learning chastity, you won't know what the right size/fit is if you order one of the custom metal ones. After having been in chastity for close to 10 years, I still don't feel comfortable ordering a custom sized device for $300-$600 and not getting the size right on the first try. But plastic/silicone devices are not as hygienic and need to be removed more often for thorough cleaning. Metal devices are much better for long term, continuous wear. I know you aren't thinking about that now, but if you continue down this path, it probably will. Lastly, I would not waste the $20 or $40 on the toys you find in eBay, Amazon or DHGate. Invest some money into the health of your most precious jewels. Go visit the manufacturers sites.
The first time my cock was locked was three weeks ago tomorrow. I wore a knock off CB6000s $20 almost constantly until two days ago when I received my Chinese Jail House, also $20 plus $10 shipping. The following is an account of a newbie's experience with both. The CB was nice and light but did cause a fair amount of pinching. No real damage save a few red spots where the head of my cock was in constant contact. I cleaned it while in a hot shower using Q-tips and plenty of soap. When it was off for short periods I gave it, and me, a through wash. I started out with baby gel for lubrication but soon switched to Lanacane Anti-Chafing gel after hearing about it here at CM. With the JH it is very easy to keep everything clean down there. In both cases I used a hair dryer to dry off. The JH dried allot faster and more thoroughly. . Time may prove me wrong but I cannot see spending hundreds for either of these two devices. I do not think an expensive replacement will be any more comfortable. If it's a matter of longevity, I can replace either many times over before getting anywhere near the price of genuine. I find the JH more comfortable for sleeping. Day time I wear a tight fitting pair of panties to hold everything up or the sheer weight stretches my ball sac too much for good health or comfort. The JH is not noticeable even when I wear a fairly tight fitting pair of jeans. The CB makes a minor bulge but is still passable with my shirt not tucked in my pants. They both provide a different experience and I like them both for different reasons. I may ask Karen to let me switch back to the CB now and then and I would probably use the CB for air travel.
Metal by far ,I am uncut so to many issues with plastic not to mention hygine a metal jailbird from mm is so comfotable and cleaning is so much better There is a feeling of being more secure in metal as well because there in way you can break it
I think the only time the plastic wins out are the pink ones for sissys look very cute , but for any thing more than a few hours stainless and definitely the well made but very low priced stuff from China are absolutely the best starting point. Xx Wendy
the cb ones split after a bit and it hurts. if you try to glue them be careful not to glue all your fingers together.
Will a metal cage such as the jailbird also allow my balls to drop lower due to the thickness of the base ring? I have a tight scrotum and high ball sack. With my CB6000s and the ring is quite thick and I am wondering whether this is making my balls spread to the sides rather than drop below. If you look at most members photos wearing a CBxxxx this seems to be the case. Also one advantage I can see with the CB range is that you cannot touch the penis except for the very end and the side slots. A metal device is more open. Is it not therefore easier to stimulate yourself with a metal cage?
Ive got both, like the weight of the metal ones, would love a steel belt, but a bit too expensive for my budget.
Sorry to necro but there's some very misleading information in this post, and it's still the first result when the question is google searched. I bought a steel cage-style device a few weeks ago and it is very heavy! If you like to wear mens underwear then this style of cage will cause you significant discomfort after even a couple of days. - The weight of the cage will pull your testicles constantly, this will cause significant aching and maybe even swelling, even when wearing boxer-briefs with support. - If you sleep on your side, then the cage will tug your scrotal skin on one side all night. - Your scrotum can and will stretch over time, the extra skin will make cages less effective. Let's be honest, taking the cage off for a couple of minutes to clean is no big deal. I would always recommend you prioritise comfort over ease of cleaning. If the cage becomes unwearable after a few days, being able to clean it while locked becomes pretty meaningless. Pretty disappointed as I used this thread for advice, and now I have to take my cage off regularly to give my balls a rest.
My Mature Metal Jail Bird fits amazingly well, sometimes I forget it is even on. I do use baby oil on the ring it makes the "tugging" as you describe, disappear. It is heavier than plastic but not uncomfortably heavy to me at all.
I am fairly new to 'long term' chastity as I've been in a device for 2 months straight. I am mostly self locked but as of last weekend my vanilla gf "Jill" has hidden my keys for me, she has no interest in being a keyholder but has no trouble being a key hider. So since I am what I would call an 'experienced' newbie I have some insights. I did the whole knock off thing when I started this journey 2 years ago. I had seen chastity and devices on a TV program years ago and that ignited the flame. I have bought the knock off CB6000s and HT3, an A273, 2 Cherrykeepers and now wearing full time a custom metal cage built by Badassworkroom called a BA-20. The plastic knock offs were in a word 'terrible'. The fake CB actually exploded off me when I got enthusiastic. The HT3 smelled like some sort of industrial toxic plastic but was certainly secure until the lock failed and then would just randomly fall off. These products were very cheap and my first experience with chastity, I knew if I could find something comfortable I may really enjoy this. Next purchases were the metal A273 and the 3D printed plastic Cherrykeepers. The A273 was in-between sizes for me. The 45 mm ring slightly too small the 50 mm would fall off. I am a girthy grower so the narrow diameter of the cage was difficult to get into requiring tons of lube and the tip of my willie would poke thru the wide bars and rub on my underwear and cause great discomfort. I never tried the stocking method to get into it and figured if its that tight its not right. I liked the feeling of the metal tube and the metal base ring, this may be helpful information I thought. I have a Cherrykeeper for "The Girthier Grower" as its called and that was the game changer for me. Absolutely brilliant and as close to custom as one can get. There are so many interchangeable options available and so inexpensive you can try all kinds of sizes and cage shapes to dial things in. I bought a couple cages and 3 rings. As much as I love this device my skin does not. After a day or 2 the smell I generate is similar to a 2 year old hockey glove. So incredibly comfortable but I cannot clean it enough to keep it fresh, but this is a me problem, many people tolerate these devices very well and they are perfect for getting the proper fit. The weight of the Cherrykeeper is very light, but they are very strong. No matter how hard I would get the device never felt like it may be at risk of failure. I have high tight balls and they can be a little uncomfortable, but they are in ALL of the devices I've tried. I live in Canada, its very cold sometimes, this is a hazzard that doesn't go away until summer, no getting around it just have to try and stay warm. I have been interested in a Mature Metal Jailbird for the longterm benefits of easy cleaning and to be honest the feeling of the metal on my package. Since I live in Canada our dollar exchange rate is a bit nasty so I was a bit worried to spend the big $$ on a device when I still am trying to figure out the sizing. After reading on this site the review of a BA-20 from Badassworkroom I figured that may be a good option. I took lots of measurements of me and of my Cherrykeeper to help design my new device. When I put the new BA-20 on it was the aha!!! moment I was waiting for. I got this perfect....well almost. I was thinking my other devices were a bit too short so I made this one longer. A good move except its too long. I made the diameter wide enough that I just slide right in, so easy to put on. Also I like the feeling of growing a bit inside and filling the space, its very thrilling. The length is a bit long for peeing though as my dick tip is not resting on the end of the cage and pee can go everywhere. I usually sit or use urinals, standing to pee in a toilet is not really possible. The style of cage tip is designed so that foreskin for the uncut or tip for those of us that are does not slip thru the bar gaps to be irritated by our undies. I have a new BA-20 on order that is the same diameter as the one I am wearing, with a shorter cage and a small increase in base ring size. In order to find a good length I stuffed the tip of the cage with TP folded over to make the cage shorter inside. I would then remove the cage to pee but otherwise kept it on all day a few days and with different lengths to dial in the best length. If this new one fits and is perfect I may order a Jailbird later in the year as Ill have the length, diameters, and base rings figured out. These custom made cages are very inexpensive especially for Americans and Europeans with good currency exchange, but a bit pricey for us Canadians. That said I can try 2 for just under the cost of a Jailbird customized the way I want it so I want to be sure. I personally love the feeling of metal on my skin. I have had piercings in the past and enjoyed the feeling of metal, but that is a me thing. I like the hygiene offered from the metal, no smell and very easy to clean in a shower or bath. Removal is not necessary, I just use a shaving brush lathered up and use it between the bars and base ring. I have tried keeping everything shaved and have tried just trimming with scissors to keep things neat but hair covered still. I like the hair trimmed, it acts as a bit of a slippery barrier so I do not need lubrication from oils or lubes. Jill does not care if its perfectly shaved and trimmed is just fine she says so that is not an issue for me. I do put lotion on the bottom of my sack where the base ring is and where the cage sits against my sack too, this helps keep irritation to a minimum. I sometimes use some silicone lube on my tip just to help it find the proper spot in my too long cage, it can get a little jammed up in there otherwise. It took some time to dial in proper underwear as well. I wear thongs everyday and have for a few years now. Some of them are very small and tight, they are men's with a pouch shape but for the first while the only ones that worked for chastity were JM Skinz from a manufacturer in Canada. I have 50 thongs at least of about 10 different styles and brands and the JM ones are the best ones for fit and for coverage. The smaller ones do not cover everything and would cause some irritation. I have tried the smaller ones in the last couple weeks and since I've been wearing my device for a longer time the skin is more tolerant and I can wear the skimpier undies with less irritation. All in all I have about $1000 invested in devices. If I had stuck with just Chinesium or knock off devices then would be just a couple hundred. If you are planning to get into this lifestyle with the intention of long term wear it will require some investment in first off the shelf products then some custom made device or devices to really dial it in. Of course everyone is different and each experience will be different, but dialing in what works for you will be a process. I have been on this site a couple years and spent hours reading other members experience with getting their fit correct, measuring, cleaning, lotioning and mind set as well. My learning curve has been so much shorter gathering the experiences of others as my guide to enjoying this. Learning from others who have vanilla partners has helped me understand why Jill is not interested in being involved and great stories have been told about how to live with someone who tolerates chastity but doesn't want to be involved. This chastity life has been so much fun, interesting to learn about and experience. Being locked in a cage is intoxicating for some reason. Since I have been locking I feel "like I'm home" and very comfortable wearing my cage. Each day it gets more and more normal to be locked up and contained. Each time I try to get a hard on, a feeling I absolutely love, I am reminded of the device in my pants which helps keep my thoughts on Jill and free from porn and masturbation. Daytime stiffies are not painful just sometimes a bit uncomfortable if I let them go too long. As nothing in life is for free each morning I wake up between 0500 and 0700 to a raging, painful attempt at morning wood, which has me getting up to use the washroom in a desperate attempt to get it to subside. In all the devices this has been a thing, and given that I'm two months in, I suspect this is my penance for enjoying chastity so much otherwise. Its worth it to me, 10 minutes of pain for hours of pleasure. Chastity goes beyond metal or plastic. Its about fit for your anatomy, your skin, your mindset and of course your partner if you have one. If you are interested in experimenting with this lifestyle jump in and give it a go, you may awaken something within yourself that won't go to sleep again. Life is short, spice it up and have some fun.
Would tell same about going metal. But Cherry keeper offers a good compromise with very wide and compatible parts to dial in great cage. https://www.shapeways.com/shops/josielynn-s-body-jewellery
I know I am a broken record, but went through some of what you went through, got a PA and shaft cage, solves most if not all the problems you describe. Wished I hadn't wasted time with all those ball trap devices.
PA definitely moves into different class. Assuming your game to piercing that could be future route depending on chastity future. It appears to be a good route with my short length as well. Time will tell.