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    You might be thinking regular reviews would just take too much time. Wel here is the secret about that. There is another reason he is blindfolded. While he is stroking away making his case or bumping up against the vibrating wand on the post he can’t see me. I have my phone and catch up on Facebook or this site, whatever. I have read whole books in the course of several sessions. It’s oddly satisfying as he is nearby edging up, backing off and repeating while I have some nice me time. I throw in a few “good boys” or “I love that you voulentarily cage yourself for me” while he does it. I might say “compliment me, and don’t stop till I tell you” while he edges. This is very smart because as his brain is getting intense pleasure it is also searching for and speaking any good things he thinks about me. The pleasure gets mixed up with the compliments and they get bonded together. After a while I noticed he compliments me all the time now. His brain made a connection between complimenting me and pleasure. So now he compliments me automatically. Brain Tamer stuff. Science works.
     
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    Above someone said I should write a book. I have a lot of things like the stuff on the page I do. Not all of them work but some are amazing. If enough people encourage me on this thread I will write a small book and post it on amazon and give a free copy to anyone who encourages me to write the book on this thread. I won’t do that if I don’t get enough replies though, so it’s up to you.
     
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    I think it would be especially helpful to tell how I have put most all of the work of keyholding on him in a way that is fun for him. I had lots of ideas on how to get a really fun happy and obedient hubby. However I found that it took a lot of time and effort to do it and I found I was skipping a lot of it. Then I tried to think of ways I could be a active keyholder but get rid of the workload. I had listed a few of those techniques above but didn’t list them all. I think those ideas would be especially valuable to the community here. It seems that my man gets off on being told what to do and by serving me. I have lots of ways to take advantage of that. Having him do most of the “work” actually adds to his fun rather than taking away from his own chastity experience. A lot of trial and error went into finding out what works and If motivated I could share that. However it’s only a guideline because what works with you might be completely different.
     
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    That is definitely it in IMO. You fix things so you can relax while he has to do all the donkey work. with penalties if he falls short. And which if need be you enforce, because you can. And of course you have one or two punishments up your sleeve which he won't like at all, so the prospect of them will also keep him in line.
     
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    I believe he gets more of what he wants when I make him do more. If I have to do a lot the truth is I won’t
     
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    If I get him excited then give him his tasks then review them while allowing him pleasure then the threat of punishment is not really needed. Its natural for anyone to repeat tasks that bring pleasure. Of course I have my blackmail file and I do tease him with that. He has agreed to take a spanking if I decide he needs it. There are better motivations though. Pleasure is better. The trick is to make absolutely sure I am the only one who can deal out the pleasure. If he can just jack off anytime then I have “lost the means of production” and as any Dick tater knows controlling “the means of production” is key. In this case he produces to gain pleasure. This submitting and obeying me produces pleasure. He can not in anyway have any other means to produce pleasure without me. He also wants to avoid pain of course. However I want a happy willing and eager worker that really wants to complete my tasks rather than a worker who does his tasks without joy and out of fear. There is a place for fear of punishment but managed correctly we will never have to go there. Pleasure is leading him, over time he becomes so conditioned that he would not be able to disobey because his brain will overpower his will. You see this all the time with drugs or smoking. Even though the user wants to stop those stimulants they can not help but to submit to the use of the stimulants. There is just too much pleasure and repetition for their brain to say no to pleasure. Their brain overrides thier will. In this case there is no real downside to obedience to me in like drugs and smokes. Its important to slowly work at overriding barriers to obedience. I do this by getting him really worked up. He obeys something he has no objection to, then several more and the result is pleasure. Then when he is in a very pleasurable state I make him do something just slightly out of his comfort zone. Not too far out of that zone and reward him with pleasure. I have a written list in order of difficulty as I judge it for me to use. I really don’t want him to do a lot of it but I know it’s out of his comfort zone. Usually embarassing stuff is easy. I am slow with this list and just throw one item into the mix with the other items that are not objectionable. Making him wear the cage is one that goes on all day. I always have him report in and take proof pics, most of which I never see, but he doesn’t know that. He just puts them in a encrypted folder. Also he records affirmations that he says a number of times and puts them in the folder too. He sometimes does challenges on video that are in thier too. Here is an example. I have had him do things like being in public and having my panties from the night before stuffed in his mouth. I will call him while he is out and tell him under his seat is my panties from last night in a plastic bag. Also a little sign that says “these are my wife’s panties”. I tell him to put them in his mouth, hold the sign and take a pic. This is sort of embarassing and a little dangerous if he is caught. Its not illegal though. I have had him wear the panties and told him every time he goes to a public bathroom he needs to send me a pic without anyone seeing. I need to see the cage and the panties. I really don’t want to see him in panties, actually it’s a turn off for me. It does nothing for me and I really don’t enjoy it. However I found he gets a stiffy if I put him in panties. It’s something that gets him excited. It would be embarassing if he gets caught. Adrenaline is created. He has to do something that is out of his norm. He has to obey and make the decision to obey over and over during the day. He has to take pictures in a public bathroom of his cage and the panties. Its not the wearing of panties that I want it’s all that slightly embarassing and mildly dangerous obedience that I want. Over time obedience like this sort of sand down the rough edges to compliance. The barriers he has in his mind have to be overridden by his will until it’s polished smooth. With repetition obedience becomes immediate for tasks that used to have slight objection. The tasks I give get more and more objectionable but slowly. If I don’t get easy and enthusiastic compliance I back up on the list change a few of the items up for the sake of novelty and work with those items for a while and return later to the objectionable item. I do that until I get no hint of objection. I could use threats and actually get the objectionable item done but only out of the threat not out of enthusiastic obedience. I think that sets me back. If I get disobedience from the core basic items that we have both agreed to then punishment is in order. Like for instance him getting out of his cage, looking at porn (other women), pleasuring himself sexually in any way, things like that. Huge amounts of hell and fury should follow that. I have to be his only porn. He needs to have sexual pleasure visual otherwise linked ONLY to me. I have to be the only distributor of sexual pleasure. He can in no way just give himself pleasure in any way without my permission or supervision. I have to be the only way out of his cage. Pleasure works better than pain In my experience. He could easily kick my ass if he is angry like a bear or a tiger could his trainer. However if I am his only source of treats he will be very reluctant to want to get me angry or disappoint me.
     
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    Public Sign Pics
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    I really don’t like to see him in panties, stockings or a bra. It is a turn off for me.
    Having him lick his own precum or actual cum is no fun
    ( well sometimes it’s a little fun)
    I don’t get off on the proof pics or the signs in public. I don’t even look at them most of the time. I don’t like to see him embarrassed and even having him wear a cage is no turn on. However I use these things because he has to go outside his comfort zone to obey. I use the cage as a way to be in control of his cock and the sole provider of pleasure. I use them for tools to sand down his objections to obedience. They are not perfect but it’s what I have. Let me go over some more techniques.

    Public Sign Pics

    The signs in public thing is sort of dangerous, kinda embarassing. He takes them in public but he tries to make sure no one sees him. I did give him bonus points when he had someone else take the pic for him. He will hold up a sign saying he is caged or loves his wife, could say anything. The signs go from nice to embarassing to devistatingly embarrassing. The more public the area, the more people around the better.

    Crossdressing

    Making him wear panties or any girly things is a weird exception to humiliation pushing his boundries of obedience. He actually gets off on this for whatever reason.

    I hate it.

    For some reason that stuff gives him a boner. I found this out through one of my interrogation sessions. I don’t call them that to him. I get him tied up, drunk, and edge him over and over. It takes a really long time. I tell them if he tells me enough secrets that I will make him orgasm. I then work him up, let him cool down, sometimes with an ice water wash cloth. I have to work this for a long time. I sometimes put headphones on him with a recording of me saying sexy things punctuated by my recording my orgasms. Its on a loop. After a few rounds I bring out my phone, press record and tell him to tell me sexy secrets.
    In one he told me he got excited by trying on a bra and then later told me he would put on make up, lingerie, garters and a dress and jack off. He told me he loved to play with make up. He told me he never did anything gayer than that and that anything gay was a turn off for him. (I believe him)
    He admitted that he did get off on cross dressing but had given it up. Personally I find crossdressing weird and a real turn off, I do hate it, but I didn’t let on. I put it in my notebook of turn ons I could use later. I really don’t want to encourage that behavior but I have used elements of it because it is useful. I have never told him how much I dislike it. That being said I Have had him wear panties all day and still do every once in a while. It’s just a tool I have to bring his sexual excitement levels up. It is also something he could get caught at.
    I make him send me a panties proof pic as well as his cage proof pics anytime he uses a public bathroom when I order a panty day. In a bathroom he takes pictures in a stall and his face needs to be in the pic.

    Sometimes holding a sign he made or I gave him. He sends those to my encrypted blackmail folder. He has rights to put things in-but not delete or take them out pictures. They are mine. I use encrypted storage for that.

    Full Crossdressing

    Sometimes, even though I don’t enjoy it I have made him wear the whole getup. stockings garters, a wig, make up everything.

    Several things have to happen when I “make” him do this.

    He is always caged when he does this.

    Because I don’t want to encourage it I never introduce pleasure. He knows he won’t recieve any. We agreed to it.

    He also must agree before we do this that -while dressed like this - he will give me complete obedience the entire time or we won’t do it at all.

    He has to agree to allow me to take any pictures or video for my blackmail folder -and that he agrees I can send them to anyone he knows or post them in public as a punishment if I want to.

    Once I made him all dressed up when the kids were away. I then cuffed his hands and he had been drinking. I turned on the video camera on my phone and recorded a interview. I made him admit he dressed up like this because I made him. He admitted he got off on it and enjoyed it somewhat. He agreed I could make this video public or send it to anyone I wanted if I choose to for his bad behavior. I put that one in my little blackmail folder.
    He admitted he liked wearing garters the most. He said on camera he loved playing with makeup and that wearing stockings and garters gave him a woody. I took several full body and face pictures with his cage visible and him giving a thumbs up.
    He makes a pretty ugly woman although parts of him looked good.

    Public Crossdressing

    Once the first time I made him fully dress up I had him get in the car. It was night. He had a hoodie on and a long skirt. Full makeup, a wig, panties, garter stuffed bra. High heels. It was hard to see his face with the hoodie on. I didn’t want to traumatize him too much. I drove him with me to a nearby town where we don’t know anyone. It was night and I reminded him he had promised to give me perfect obedience. I had told him before we left unless he promised perfect obedience I would not do anything like this and that I was likely to make him do anything embarassing I wanted. I asked if he was ready for embarassment if I felt like having him experience it. He agreed. I wasn’t going to embarass him but I did want him to “cross that bridge” of giving in. I don’t actually have to embarass him.
    I always drive in case we are pulled over.
    There was a bag in the car with a set of clothes and makeup wipes but he didn’t know that.
    As we drove off I said “if we break down you will be caught outside in ladies underwear, in a dress, while in a chastity cage and you will have to repair the car like that and possibly walk a lot in public. Are you ok with that risk? will you just to do what I say the whole time we are out? He said he hoped it didn’t happen but he would risk anything to obey me. “Good boy, err girl” I said. We laughed. I made him go with me to a very nice gas station, then we went in. It was very busy and I made him follow me to the girls bathroom. I texted him I wanted a full selfie, when no one was with him with his face showing in the picture, he was holding a sign that said “I am cross dressing because I am obedient and do whatever my wife tells me to.” Then on the flip side the sign said “I am cross dressing because I secretly enjoy it.” He sent these to my secret encrypted blackmail folder right then and there. I made him pay for a coke himself, he kept his head down and wouldn’t look at the clerk. He looked stupid and was a big turn off for me to see him in a dress. It was creeping me out a bit. It was fun dressing him though. We put on several faces with makeup before we left. Even though I hated him crossdressing I knew his brain was obeying me. I knew it was a turn on for him. He was getting both an adrenaline thrill and a sexual thrill while he was obeying. He was walking around in public with female underware, makeup and a wig. He also had a metal chastity cage with no key and couldn’t get out. It was really quite a thrill for him. Did I mention this first time was Halloween? I figured if we did get caught we could pass it off as a costume. If anyone asked why he was wearing this stuff he was to tell them he lost a sports bet.
    I make him do this every Halloween now. I threaten to take away Halloween if he misbehaves. He looks forward to it and so do I now. We leave the kids, get a hotel room and go to another town. I make him promise me perfect obedience and make him promise to allow any pictures or videos I want to take. Since it is Halloween I take many in public. We even went to a ihop and a bar. He had to be out in the open for all that. No hoodie, He was wearing a wonderful antebellum ball gown we had picked out at a good will. He looked good in someways, but stupid in others. I made him shave his legs and face and even his arms. I examined him carefully for any weird stubble. he has hair on his chest but it was just cut down. I thinned his eyebrows a bit but not to much. I used bill nye eybrow was on some of his eyebrows for a feminine look. Then primer, foundation, lipstick blush, false eyelashes. A stuffed bra, panties, garters (he loves those for whatever reason). High heels but not too high, he is very tall. I found it really fun to watch him try to walk in those. We bought a lot of this stuff at the thrift store.
    Now I have a suitcase full of underwear, garters, and the like that are just for him. They are always locked. He is never allowed to cross dress unless I make him. I don’t like it much so it is not often. I use it to bring up his excitement levels when nothing else is working. I don’t like him cross dressing like I said but I have to admit it was really a fun evening. Every Halloween has been really fun now. I never tell him he looks good and always tell him I hate him cross dressing. Since I don’t like to encourage this kind of thing I told him in advance He will get no physical pleasure when we do this. I have had him lick me to orgasm while he was dressed and recorded all of it. I made him Ice down his cage with ice and a wash rag when I was through with him. I told him he has to wear the underwear all night but sleep on the floor or couch. It creeps me out to have him sleep next to me in all that. He has to set an alarm early and get completely cleaned up with no girl clothes and lock up all his dress up stuff before I wake up. The next day I go over all the pictures and video and tell him things like “wow this would be super embarassing for me to send to your best friend”. I tell him you know you agreed I could and if you don’t behave I will show your buddy how you have spent the last 6 Halloweens. How embarassing would that be? In the light of day the next morning he can see how ridiculous he actually looked. I am going to say it again I don’t like him crossdressing but it’s a tool I can and have used.

    Cum Eating

    I am no fan of this either. I have to admit sometimes I get a little wicked thrill from it sometimes. However for the most part I don’t care for it. It is something weird that he objects too though. So I use it. I found after he orgasms he really hates it, but just before that he will willingly do it.
    There is a trick I have found on a forum that works. I do like him to cum in me and still lick me to another orgasm afterward. Because of that I want him acclimated to the taste. If I have him cum in my mouth I always try to deep french kiss him right after. He has gotten used to that. He says he likes it now. I sometimes allow him to jack off and climax in front of me. I usually have him do that into a glass jar or a shot glass. I have him mix it with water and a little sugar and put into the freezer in a ice tray. It has small ice cubes in that tray. Before I tease or edge him just after he is tied or cuffed I get him a little excited. Then I tell him I won’t do anything else unless he lets me put a little or many cum Ice cubes in his mouth. If he is turned on it is not hard to get him to agree. I have had him hold a sign that says what is in his mouth with his mouth open showing it. These pictures are in my blackmail file and randomly I send him one or show him it on m phone. I say I know you’ll be a very good boy because I can post this anytime I want, you said it was ok if I wanted right? He nods. “Your my bitch now,” I giggle. Tell me your my bitch, look me in my eyes and tell me. He does, again I with more feeling. He does. Hmmm, I am not convinced, get on your knees, look me in the eyes and tell me. He does, “ummm again” I say. It goes on like this, I then rub his cage, tell him he is my prisoner, make him admit it and sometimes I edge him or vibe him. I like to reinforce that humility with pleasure.

    Are there any techniques that you do as a keyholder or maybe your key holder does to you that you would share? Can you imagine any that would work?
     
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    Good Lord, yes, Miss Elizabeth, please write a book!!!
     
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    If I get a little more encouragement like this I will. Thanks
     
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    More encouragement? I don't think you need it but yes, do write the book.
    I do like your style, you approach his chastity in a quite structured way which obviously works for both of you, and your posts make riviting reading.
    If you wrote a book I'm sure it would be a great success (but don't underestimate how much time it'll take)
     
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    I do need encouragement and lots of it. I have tried techniques that do not work and some do. I look at it a little more as means toward an end.


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    Id I get a few more encouraging not s here, I have a friend who helps people publish and promote books on Amazon so it is doable.
     
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    This was one of the nicest posts I have ever read.


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    Yes it would be fun and also a useful tool for some if you were to write all this and all the great ideas that are lurking in your brain, including things that havebeen done already, in a book for others to get ideas.
     
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    You have a great approach to this that seems very effective. I can't believe the embarrassment he must have felt to be forced to maintain eye contact with your cousin as he is forced to lick up his pre-cum, especially if she's quite attractive. Just curious, why did your cousin not want to touch it?
     
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    She was very embarassed.
     
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    Makes sense. Do you think she'll get less embarrassed with time and start having fun with his predicament?
     
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