Is Permanent Chastity defined by the notice period & chance of triggering it?

Can you define notice period and triggering for me?

I believe I understand what you mean but defined in your words would help.

 

The way we practice permanent chastity, I'm not given any explicit notice period. We have a standing monthly session with a friend, I may, or I may not get unlocked for it. Depends on the scene that has been planned, I'm not privy to the details.

Other than that monthly chance, it's completely random if and when I get unlocked. There are times that we both feel those odds are higher. Like my birthday or our anniversary. But it's not guaranteed.

If you are saying the unlocking after the notice period is absolutely going to happen then personally I've never been given a notice period.

If there is a chance that the unlocking might not happen even after a notice has been announced then mine is triggered monthly.

 

I never know. Basically, when ever she decides to use her toy she just does.

 

I've been in "open-ended" chastity for 19 months now, and have no idea when it will end. To each his own, but seems to me that you could be over-thinking this. Just let it happen and enjoy it. That's why we do this right? Because it gives us pleasure on some ill-defined level? I'm locked and she has the key. I am completely dependent on her. Feels good to me.....

 

I agree that Permanence is an expectation.
Or a lack of expectation for the future. I completely agree that the passage of time gets you no closer to any change.

There’s a difference between undefined and unbounded, and definitely infinite.

The problem with “definitely infinite” definition of chastity because you can’t prove it will happen. You don’t know.

My wife prefers the term “uncountable” like the stars. She’s a bit poetic in this.

Simply unbounded and indefinite is exacting language from a mathematical perspective.

A notice period makes it definite and bounded on the low end. “At least six months” does this.

I struggled to get her to make my chastity “definite” and she refused to even give me a lower bound. Otherwise I would keep counting days, and feel entitled.

She’s trying to get me to just live in chastity and denial and stop counting entirely.

So… to explain us….

For my keyholding wife, there’s no notice period. She chafes at making promises. This wouldn’t work for her. It gives me expectations to have something like that.

My chastity and orgasm denial is unbounded and indefinite. It’s her choice, without limit. 100 years was the only maximum she would give.

So I have to pull back and tell you that I’m not caged with a permanent seal. I pushed back on her when she started pressing ideas of permanence last summer. I told her I gave her my key, not threadlocker (or another form of permanent fastening).

We struggled back and forth. She ended up winning. She refused to give me a notice period, or a promise when I’d be uncaged.

She prefers it literally indefinite. Undefined. And unbounded.

Now, I’ve been let out of my cage by her since then. So I’m not in 100% chastity every month. Only a handful of months have I been kept always in my cage. I’ve been living over 99% of my time kept safe and snug. She decides when and always without notice. She told me I needed to stop counting the minutes I spend uncaged because she’s always in control.

So I can’t claim permanent chastity or permanent orgasm denial. Not 100% wear. Not 0 orgasms.

But she did tell me my masturbation denial is permanent last year. I complained that I should be allowed to stroke to orgasm since it had been over two years. She looked hurt that I even asked, because I vowed to her all my pleasure would be hers forever. I figured she’d guide my masturbation again to climax someday. She told me it was her mistake by leaving me out of chastity, and I should never expect that to happen again. It took many months for me to accept this. I truly did struggle with permanence.

Definite permanence is difficult to deal with. “Never again” is tough. I wasn’t grateful at all last year. The issue is she can’t prove she won’t change her mind. It gives me a little hope.

Future permanence is problematic. It implies intent. It’s easier to “count up” and look at the past.

A trailing indicator is easier to talk about.

 

We (she), practices full-time chastity, with releases for doctor appointments, travel and teasing. Sometimes she lets me out for heavy physical work. Otherwise, I am not aware when she intends to unlock me next.

 

same here, just with the addition of hygiene release about every 5 days or so, as I wear I full tube device, not a cage. But it’s wash, shave, dry and straight back on.

 

I much prefer the term "perpetual" to "permanent", though the latter sends shivers through me more than the former! I guess the whole point of using either term is that there is no notice period with decisions in the hands of the person holding the key and that scenario is as close as one can get to true perpetuity... or perceived permanence. At the end of the day, it's what works best for the dynamic between both parties. Though I never want to know any kind of target date I do want to believe release lies in the future in some shape or another!