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    Hi guys,


    are you only expected devotion to your wife or are you also expected devotion to other woman?


    My wife really trained me and expect me to show my devotion to every woman. As a real feminist she wants to show all people that know us, what she keeps in mind as the true order...


    A few examples for rules in her (our) house when we are alone:


    • when she enters the house or leaves the house I have to go on my knees and kiss her feet as long as she says it is enough

    • when she enters a room and dressed me in a dress or with a skirt I have to courtsy

    When her girlfriends visiting us:


    • Most times expected to wear a dress, a litte make up and a flower-parfum to show them that I except her dominance and don‘t have any „macho-fantasys“ as she calls it...

    • always kiss their hands, take their jackets and serve them drinks / food until they leave

    • never speak to a lady, unless I am spoken to expect the greetings with „welcome miss XXX“

    Outside her (our) house:


    • always in female atire. My wife usualy don‘t force me in skirts / dresses outside our home, only when she is realy angry with me...I mostly have to wear girls high waisted jeans from hollister or levis for example with a subtle woman shirt or blouse . Sometimes she makes me wear jumpsuits wich is realy hard, as woman and men know that it‘s not usual to wear this type of clothes for a male. Also when we drive to our yoga-class she expects me to wear leggings, a sports bra (both for example from oecans apart) and maximum a loose ladys sport shirt. This is realy tough because I feel very exposed and don’t want to look in the eys of the (mostly woman) people around us. What helps is that she is when I have to wear such atire outside - always close to me. I am often allowed to hold her hand or she grabs her hand around my waist or botty and shows me and the others that we are here togeher and that she is proud that I do this for her

    • I am never allowed to use male restrooms. She always joins me and goes with me to the ladys room (only if it is not frequented because of discussions) or I have to wait until we are home

    • In Restaurants I am never allowed to order something to a female waitress, as she made it clear that I am never allowed to give a task to any woman.

    I could give you so much more examples or if you have any questions just tell me.


    I am very excited what you are doing or are expected to do to show your devotion to the supermacy gender...
     
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    Not devoted to all women, no. By definition that's impossible. You can't devote yourself to everyone, that's not possible.

    However, I respect women greatly and I believe, as a generalisation, they are more worthwhile than men.

    I don't think the examples you give are evidence of your wife's feminism, as much as her femdom kink. No problem with that, but feminism doesn't require, for example, men to wear women's clothes. In fact, in most cases, I suspect it would abjure that.
     
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    Well, as long as it works for you both, kudos.
     
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    I don't desire to submit to anyone but my Mistress and I think that if I were to be submissive to all females, it would devalue our personal D/s connection in both of our eyes.
     
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    I think Lester brings up an important point. Feminism has its' definition stretched and deformed often. Usually by those who want to fight against it. I am not claiming that is what is happening here but it hurts the cause to say that the things described here are any part of feminism. They are kink, and if that is what you both enjoy, then more power to you.
     
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    i am tooked to partys and i serve food and drinks there so i am very polite to Ladys and to men as well. i think it rude to not be polite really. to be devote you has to love and i love Mistress but not everbody.
     
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    Jemima does Mistress make you pleasure some of the men.

    Must be very exciting.
     
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    It doesn't sound like you wife is a feminist...

    One who is for the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the EQUALITY of the sexes.

    This is not your wife.

     
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    Really?
     
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    sounds like a lovely life to me xx
     
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    #11 Peter201, Sep 5, 2020
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    Feminizacy / crossdressing is only specific fetish, it's absolutely not the rule for feminism, not for femdom, not for FLR...

    There is also the opposite perception. If a man has a woman's dress, it's as insult and ridicule for women. A man in a woman's dress looks ridiculous, thus he as mocks a woman's dress and femininity.
    The woman is a noble creature. Therefore a man should not have a right to have a woman's dress. Women's dresses are superior dresses. Exclusively for women.
     
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    This is in the male chastity forum and again it is about men becoming sissies ???????
     
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    @steph17 maybe this should be moved is there a Sissy part of sites?
     
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    #15 Metalman, Sep 6, 2020
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    It’s interesting to see that this post is getting some aggressive reactions... Actually, I even find it shocking ! Is it really un-feminist when one man is made to serve several women?

    It’s fascinating to see how quickly Men are to « fight for equality » anytime they see a woman overpowering men, but the opposite never seems to be an issue at all.

    How many parties and dinners have you been to where men are mostly seating on their thumbs and chatting while women are cooking, serving drinks, cleaning the tables. It is not always the case of course but it often is.
    How many jobs have you been where secretary, assistants, hosts and so on, are all women?

    How many men stand up to say that’s against equality ? They mostly don’t, because they don’t even notice it!

    In the struggle for overall gender equality, some powerful strong minded women must rise to power, and at home men will serve them their drinks and listen to them taking without interrupting... and at work, men will serve them coffee, and deal with their paper work.

    Uniform equality accross the board is a utopia just like Communism, that can only be enforced through despotic rules. Real social interactions are power struggles sometimes resulting in equality, and sometimes resulting in an imbalanced relationship where one has more power.

    Most of us have been raised seeing all instances of power being held by men, especially in public, social and work settings.

    If we are uncomfortable with the opposite setting, when a powerful women commands to several men, or when a more submissive man submits to several women, then WE ARE NOT feminist!
    Equality is just a false and intellectually dishonest argument.

    I am really surprised that a chastity forum, with an FLR section has such reactions.

    It makes me wonder : why are men locked up in here, and/or in FLR, if they are uncomfortable with the idea of women being on top in public settings?

    How do you justify submitting but only to your wife?
    What attributes are other women lacking, that make them undeserving of your serving and submissive tendencies?
     
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    The main attributes that other women are lacking are:

    (a) they're not my Mistress and therefore I don't love them in the way that I love her.
    (b) they didn't consent to me submitting to them, so to force or project that onto them without their permission is something I would see as creepy (and so do most people- especially if it's something you get off on).

    I treat everyone I meet with basic courtesy, kindness and respect. Part of that respect is taking into consideration what they may or may not want and trying not to make them feel uncomfortable.
     
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    #18 Metalman, Sep 6, 2020
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    Good point.

    I was probably not clear about what kind of "submission" I’m talking about. What I had in mind was not sexual or kinky In any way, but socially acceptable behaviors, such as respectful manners, accrued listening, not interrupting like men so often do, and so on.

    Looking back at the original post, i can see how it can seem a bit too kinky, and excessive in the submissive aspects for vanilla people.

    What made me react is the idea that it would be wrong or inappropriate to use chastity and FLR to get men to show more respect to women as a whole and not just their own key holders.
    I see so many men in real life, behaving poorly with women, driven by their BS male ego, and social norms that entitle them to interrupt, correct them for no real reason, talk louder, manslpain, and so on...
    Sometimes it’s obvious douchebag, most of the time it’s just subtle undermining of women charisma, knowledge and so on.

    My own journey through chastity and FLR has made me really aware of those gender imbalance, and it gave me the desire to often let women talk, explain, shine, and be wonderful :rolleyes::love:
     
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    very well put, and I totally agree!
     
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    @LesterBallard: my wife expects me to show devotion to the female gender and to the women I meet, no matter in which circumstances...why shouldn’t this be possible? My wife is an absolutely beliver in forced feminization...please keep in mind that I don‘t have to live as a sissy or such kink-fantasies...I have to dress and make up like a girl to honor the female gender and to show the women I meet that I have no masculine ego or macho attitude left...


    @Peter201: never, since I am only allowed female clothes - a women told my wife or me that she felt insult or ridicule because of my appearance...I can understand that woman feel this way when they see a femdom porn video with a mistress that dominates a not-in-shape male in a cheap sissy dress and with terrible make up or a wig or something like this. But this is not our kind of „business“. A lot of woman complimented us...example:


    • Some women of our yoga-class told us that they are happy that I wear leggings and a bra because they also know men who where starring at them but the men don‘t wear tight sport attire which express there bodys...also because I stay locked in the HolyTrainer Nano or neosteel full-belt for crossdressers no errection will ever be shown...

    • Some women told us that they are happy that a „male“ like me gets to know the restrictions a woman have to manage with everyday: walk in heels, hold your legs together when sitting or step out of the car while wearing a dress or skirt, wear a bra...

    @Metalman: thank you for your words and your support! I got your point...my wife exactly thinks this way: why shouldn’t it be also ok if a „man“ is doing the household and stays at home like me, does the cooking and serving for the guests and supports his wife to feel free and express herself...my forced feminization and forced chastity extreme supports my mind mind-set in this cases...my wife loves the statement which she sets in our society with showing herself with a well trained, soft (in many ways...) and supporting man.


    I for myself support my wife in any way I can and if it is her wish to show „her world“ an example of a soft and supportive „male“ than I do this for her with proud. Due to the feminization and the live in chastity I got a complete new look of women and their greatfullness, not only in sexuall related kind of things but also emotional...
     
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    im use to be told to go somewhere else. it usual the kitchen.
     
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    #metoo!
     
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    I am expected by my wife to submit to her mom with cheerful service, not sexual of course. And when my wife has her girlfriends over, I am expected to wait on them. However, I find none of this taxing. I am effeminate and have always bowed down to girls and women since I realized at the age of 12 that I wanted to be one.
     
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