Covid-19 and Life

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    COVERUP:
    The Esteemed Little Elf, The ChiComs, and Harvard Suppressed The Lab Leak

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    The Chinese Coronavirus Rabbit Hole: An Inside Look at the Virus’ Origin
    • Evidence points to SARS-CoV-2 being the result of a lab leak, and that The Esteemed Little Elf, Harvard researchers, China, the mainstream media, the World Health Organization and tech companies all worked together to cover it up. U.S. Right to Know has published a detailed timeline of the cover-up;
    • In mid-January 2020, then-director of the CDC, Dr. Robert Redfield voiced concerns that the pandemic may have been the result of a lab leak at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) in China. He called The Elf, Wellcome Trust director Jeremy Farrar, and World Health Organization director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, urging each of them to “take the lab leak hypothesis with extreme seriousness.” To this day, he believes the lab leak theory is the most credible;
    • In his memoir, “Spike,” Farrar noted that emails were circulating among credible scientists “suggesting the virus looked almost engineered to infect human cells.” The topic so concerned him, he acquired a burner phone and instructed his contacts to use different phones and email accounts when discussing the matter;
    • January 29, 2020, Scripps Research virologist Kristian Andersen discovered a research paper describing gain-of-function techniques used on coronaviruses at the WIV that could have given rise to SARS-CoV-2. According to Andersen, the study looked like a how-to manual for building the Wuhan coronavirus; and
    • Andersen and several other researchers who initially suspected a lab leak rapidly changed their minds, coincidentally mere days after the Chinese real estate company Evergrande made a large donation to Harvard Medical School.



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    Debate must be closed down at all costs.

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    Ms Lucy

    I like this but it's very simplified. And it neglects the social construction of science elements. Thomas Kuhn wrote about the social construction of science and how the scientific community determines what are "facts" and what are "theories" and non scientific ideas and such.

    I mention it as idiots like Fauci claiming he's science and questioning him means you're against science and stupid goes against all Kuhn explains. In fact, Kuhn and others in the Sociology of Science explain how the scientific community works to keep the norm (the earth is flat), while a small few push our learning and understanding (the world is round). Yet some voices are shit out (round and flat aren't exclusive. And both are wrong as we are on a spherical rock).

    I guess I mention this as you're very bright and intelligent and thought you might be interested in some of this. It's actually quite interesting and much deeper than most don't understand. And sadly, what you have on the right, is sometimes more of the current norm than we'd like as government and corporate funding controls too much of "modern science". Add in "peer reviewed" publishing and review and fear innovation and understanding is being stifled by idiots like Fauci and those he controls under him in his agencies.
     
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    From Useful Idiots to Useless Idiots

    As bullets fly, if you are someone who only responds to bullet points, try these two:

    1. We may be on the verge of a replay of 2008 – but we can’t use the same central bank policy responses without creating massive inflation, global Arab Springs, and global chaos.

    2. It took a special kind of thinking to get us into this mess, and an equally special kind of thinking is not helping extract us from it.

    Zerohedge produces a lot of click-bate, so it is an interesting source but not a credible one. This is one of the interesting articles.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/useful-idiots-useless-idiots

    Separate Headline:

    "The Fed is hosting an emergency meeting today at 11:30am."

     
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    They couldn't have created a worse mess if they tried...
     
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    https://wolfstreet.com/2022/10/02/b...st-25-to-66-from-highs-so-far/#comment-470208

    "1. It’s not an “emergency” meeting. It was announced early last week.​

    2. Nothing to do with “pivot” but with the “discount window,” which is currently barely in use.​

    3. They had a meeting on this same topic in March, same thing, an announcement a week before, and then they tweaked some terms of the discount window. No one cared.​

    4. Some bloggers made a lot of hay spreading BS about this meeting, especially by sticking “emergency” in front of it, which was sheer clickbait. And you, Arya Stark, fell for it, hahahaha.​

    5. You could have just read the Fed’s actual announcement last week about that meeting.


    I forgot about this meeting, and was thinking this was something new. Click-bate wins again. ;-)
     
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    A MUST WATCH!
    “Safe and Effective: A Second Opinion”


    It’s about an hour in length. The floodgates of truth are starting to open. Watch it before it “disappears” from ScrewTube!
     
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    Mind boggling. Everything from the corporate shills claiming safety to the blatant changing of the definition of the word “vaccine”.

    Can there be ANY question we’ve been systematically lied to? The only debatable question is motive. Money? Stupidity? Control? Genocide?
     
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    Some or ALL of the above!

    BUT ... WAIT ... THERE’S MORE
    Big Pharma Just Can’t Get Enough Of mRNA
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    Moderna and Pfizer Start Phase 3 Trial of mRNA Flu Vaccine
    The same twisted gene technology that was used to “treat” Chinese Coronavirus which has seriously harmed millions of people and, in the worst cases, has caused death, will now be used to “cure” that dreaded scourge to mankind ... influenza.

    The Phase 3 trial of an mRNA influenza vaccine has begun at Moderna and Pfizer.

    A major Phase 3 clinical trial assessing the efficacy, safety, tolerability, and immunogenicity of Pfizer’s quadrivalent modified RNA (modRNA) influenza vaccine candidate in about 25,000 healthy U.S. adults has begun dosing participants, the pharmaceutical giant reported last month.

    For years, there has been a need to better address the burden of influenza, despite the use of existing seasonal flu vaccines. Our experience with RNA viruses and mRNA technology has given us an even deeper understanding of the opportunity to potentially provide more efficacious vaccines that could further reduce the yearly rates of the severe outcomes of viral disease like flu, including hospitalization and death,” claimed Annaliesa Anderson, Ph.D., Senior Vice President and Chief Scientific Officer, Vaccine Research and Development, Pfizer.

    And in June, Moderna reported that the first trial participants had been dosed with the company’s seasonal influenza vaccine candidate in a Phase 3 trial (mRNA-1010). Roughly 6,000 adults from nations in the Southern Hemisphere participated in the trial.

    We are pleased to begin this Phase 3 study of our seasonal influenza vaccine candidate, mRNA-1010, our fourth mRNA vaccine candidate to begin a pivotal Phase 3 study. mRNA-1010 is the first of several influenza vaccine candidates we are developing with the aim of iteratively improving traditional vaccines by inducing broad and robust immune responses. We believe our mRNA platform, with the flexibility and speed of our manufacturing process, is well-positioned to address the significant unmet need in seasonal flu,” said Stephane Bancel, Chief Executive Officer of Moderna.



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    https://investors.modernatx.com/new...enza-Vaccine-Candidate-mRNA-1010/default.aspx


     
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    Truly horrifying. Somehow not enough misery was caused by the Covid jabs. I wonder how they are gonna try to force these shots this fall. And tell me there isn’t the potential of a Trojan Horse tactic being used.
     
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    I got a notice from my Dr saying it's time for flu shots. And I saw they were giving these.

    so

    PASS

    I'd rather risk the flu
     
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    Smart move. Never had a Flu Shot or the Clot Shot.
     
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    I hadn't had flu shots most of my life. Before Covid the doctor before my current one convinced me to get them. So for two years I did. After what I learned about the Covid Jab I've since decided to go back to my American Indian roots and avoid anything 100% needed. I've always be careful about taking medicines only when needed. But now, I'm getting to the point that we are planning a large garden and going to get chickens. The idea is to get more control over our food.

    I guess if Covid did one thing it's made me aware that these big corporations and others are messing with what they put in us. And I'm really starting to get scared.
     
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    Tom, May I humbly suggest this is an understatement for effect? For me it’s a “no fucking way!”

    Thanks for your comments.
    I feel similarly. I’m angry and very apprehensive.

    My guess is the time to REALLY get scared is when they STOP pushing the shots.

    Here’s my thinking: Injection is a way to make sure that only that individual receives whatever poison is being offered. Injections aren’t cheap nor easy to deliver and take a lot of effort to get you to show up for them. So they really want YOU to be exposed.

    If contaminating the food supply was safe for THEM, they’d do it. But everyone eats the same food and breathes the same air. So the elites couldn’t guarantee their own safety.

    So the day governments and drug companies truly back off on the shots we should expect they chose another means to infect you.

    And they clearly are searching for new excuses to give you shots. Monkey Pox, Covid “variants”, flu shots......

    I still worry, but still confident that the needle is how they get to you.
     
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    I can’t find the article now, but I recall reading about how they are trying to figure out a way to get the mRNA shit into the food supply. Meaning .... when you buy that pound of hamburger or that zucchini .... you will be getting vaxxed!
     
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    Your Friendly Neighborhood PFIZER-MAN:
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    US pharma giant partners with Marvel to create comic that urges people to get their Chinese Coronavirus vaccine and be an 'everyday hero'
    • Pfizer's comic tells the story of a grandpa who is waiting for a Chinese Coronavirus vaccine;
    • It shows Ultron attacking - who represents the Chinese Coronavirus as he keeps 'evolving'; and .....
    • He is fended off by the Avengers who mirror the different Pfizer vaccinations!
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    What’s next? Getting “Sacrament” Status for the mRNA Clot Shot?

    See:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...-PFIZER-MAN-pharma-giant-partners-Marvel.html

     
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    Man I hope you are wrong. I don’t doubt they are trying.

    But I’m still following the money. And that’s govt and big pharma’s unholy alliance.
     
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    "Researchers are now experimenting with the idea of placing mRNA vaccines in lettuce and other agricultural crops, reports say.​

    The National Science Foundation is funding this study, having committed more than half a million dollars in grant for the mRna-in-lettuce initiative, NOQ Report revealed.""
    https://www.christianitydaily.com/a...o-vegetables-so-unvaccinated-can-eat-them.htm
     
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