Do you wear a balltrap device and not lube it daily?

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    I've read elsewhere and here that you have always seemed to use a CB device. I know you have said you mainly use it for punishment and maybe a few other occasions but have you considered trying another type of ball trap device? My first device was a CB and while it started me on the path, it really is a poor design compared to other ones out there (and what a pain to install with those pins!). Even a cheap knockoff steel one can allow for access and cleaning, alleviating the smell...
     
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    But didn't I create with the purpose of getting an answer to my question?

    You know after being here for around 8 years it just seems like every thread I read is someone asking a question or asking for help, (excuse the analogy) they ask :

    "Can someone tell me how to paint a fence?"
    and the response comes:
    "I have a house and I don't have a fence but the proper timing for a 1959 Pontiac Tempest is 3 degrees before top dead center"

    It get's old.

    So because it's the Internet I should understand and be tolerant when I ask how much is 2+2 and the first repsonse is: Broccoli and the second one is: I hate Broccoli!

    Thus I could "understand their perspective"?" That would be a hard pass for me.

    Thanks for your feedback.
     
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    I’m in a custom 3D print iron maiden device, don’t use lube at all, it’s removed every 5ish days for hygiene as it’s fully enclosed and I’m uncut. Bit I do moisturise regularly.
     
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    seminal fluid, what causes blue balls
     
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    Oh lord, no that is not what causes blue balls.

    Geez

    Just google it:

    When people with male sexual organs are aroused, the blood vessels to the penis and testicles to allow a greater volume of blood flow. Over time, this blood causes the penis to expand and stiffen, leading to an erection.

    Typically, this blood is released after orgasm or as a result of decreased physical arousal. Too much blood may stay in the genital area of some people who become aroused for an extended period without a release or decrease of arousal. This could cause pain and discomfort.
     
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    Internet smart ass eh? Here’s first result:


    Blue balls is thought to be caused by the excessive accumulation of fluid in the epididymis, the tubes that transport sperm from the testicles, during prolonged arousal. Without ejaculation, the back-up of fluid can cause congestion in the epididymis, causing discomfort or pain.
     
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    A very expensive Evotion Orion
     
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    I wear one without lube long term with no problems. Pic on our profile
     
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    What would be at least as relevant as the model of device regarding the need for lube when wearing it would be:
    - the person's skin type, is it dry, greasy, flaky, smooth, hairy, shaved, plucked, ...
    - how often the person washes the genital area, how and what with,
    - how many hours a day they wear the device,
    - how close a fit the base ring is, does it compact the skin, hug it or is it relatively loose?
    - what type of underwear they wear, and how tight their clothing tends to be, which will affect the humiidity and skin temperature.
    - and probably a few more I haven't thought of...

    If you only consider the device and nothing else, then the other many variable factors are likely going to invalidate the answer.
     
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    Not internet smart ass, 33 year healthcare worker.

    The fluid is BLOOD not semen.

    Sperm in testicles, blood surrounds.

    Semen in Prostate gland.

    During ejaculation sperm leaves testicles, joins the semen and propels out the urethra.

    This is like 9th grade biology.
     
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    You told me to Google it
     
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    Wow! That is an extremely small ring by my standards - smaller even than a cock-ring I would wear to get and keep an erection! How the heck can you make that work? But also, why exactly do you need such a small ring? If the tube part fits close enough to the ring when assembled, the amount of space available to squeeze a testicle through should be like a quarter of an inch! You are clearly an escape artist with very malleable testicles! :)
     
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    i use lubricant perhaps 1-2 times a month or so. I wear a steel ball trap device, with a 45mm diameter, wide base ring. ( koalaswim, 'she's small' model )
     
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    I have found after ten+ years of trial and error (at least for me)
    (I have a mature metal jailbird that has been modified by MM a couple of times.)
    that the difference between a too loose (balls slipping out with much pain) and too tight (ball burn) is a matter of 1/2 to 1 millimeter.
    I am on my third ring and my second cage and I think I am close.
     
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    I wear the same thing (Queen's Keep) 24/7 except for a 1-3 day release each month, so far. I did not use any lube when I had my original base ring. I had a ball slip out, so I had the ring downsized. Since then, I often need to use lube once or twice a day, especially before the gym or exercise .
     
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    You can only control yourself. Just ignore the noise.
     
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    I wear a BA-01 Titanium and don't need any lube or moisturizer.
     
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    The seminal vesicles secrete a significant proportion of the fluid that ultimately becomes semen (i.e., 70-80% of the seminal fluid). The prostate contributes only 20-30%. The sperm constitutes only 2-5% of the volume (100 to 300 million sperm each ejaculation). The epididymis is where the sperm matures and is stored before ejaculation. When the sperm enters the epididymis it is incomplete and cannot swim. It takes 2-6 days for sperm to mature.

    There is a nice Fig 1. That shows what amount is produced/released at what time.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2203235/pdf/bcp0063-0404.pdf

    9th grade biology
     
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    Mature Metal Queens keep, it just works perfectly without lube.
     
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    I don't understand how this is possible with any ball trap cage. You guys must have really "roomy" cages and rings. Any ring that is pressed up against skin can result in some rubbing as temperature and tightness changes and with a lot of movement. Sure, metal might be smoother, but it still rubs. Maybe I just go tighter than all of you.
     
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    Best response.
     
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    I wear a watch and ring everyday and they are not lubed. Once you build up a tolerance you shouldn't need much for a well fitting device. The key is steel/titanium- you just can't get that smooth and friction free with plastic...
     
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    I hear you, but your watch and ring exposed to the air is not the same thing as your balls trapped in your underwear and pants all day long. The skin is different, and so is the movement in the area. Your cock and balls shift and move and adjust all the time, your finger beneath the ring does not. Not a reasonable comparison.

    I'm glad some say it works. If I could find a metal cage that fits that doesn't cost $400 I might try it. Until then I don't see why a little lube now and then is a bad thing.
     
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    Allow me to say three things:
    1. I don't think that anyone has said that a little lube now and then is a "bad thing." I don't know why the original poster wants this information. We just supplied the requested data without comment.
    2. I've worn my current base ring without interruption for over 16 months. Even when the cage portion was off while I healed from my PA piercing the base ring stayed on. At this point, one can see the evidence of this in a ring of what may be essentially callus or scar tissue where the ring comes in contact with my skin. Even so, when I was on a 10-hour flight back from Europe last weekend, I had to make three or four trips to the bathroom to adjust the skin under the base ring and "air things out." That is one of the realities of long-term/permanent chastity for us.
    3. During the time I've worn the current base ring, I've never had a ball slip out. Even before the PA I never felt that the cage would slip off. As @samseaborne commented above, the difference between too loose and too tight can be as little as 1/2 to 1 mm. My first custom base ring was just a little too tight. It ended up cutting off blood flow to the testicles in a dangerous way and resulted in a trip to the emergency room. Getting a perfect fit is one of the reasons we invested in a custom cage and took the time to work with the manufacturer to get the sizing right.
     
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