Covid-19 and Life

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    I forgot to include this data with my prior post. It shows the number of excess deaths based on the average number of deaths 2015 through 2019. The number of deaths was trending upward, which is why 2015 and 2016 are negative. We have experienced a significant increase in Non-Covid-19 deaths.

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    CHI COMS DROP THE BALL ON CORONAVIRUS .... AGAIN

    Another wave getting ready to infect the world??

    STOCK TIP FROM NANCY PELOSI: Invest in Chinese crematoriums!
     
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    Is this for real, or simply a means of scaring the poo out of people, again?

    Is it Chinese propaganda, which America's/World's media automatically parrots?

    China's own bot farms could drive up word searches. So and so said this and so and so said they heard so and so did this! Our media seldom verifies anything, wanting to be the first, not accurate. One unconfirmed source is good enough!

    The CIA may know the truth, but would they tell us, to save their own country, and would we believe them?

    Who is dumb enough to place any faith in "computer models" after the Covid debacle?

    China could very easily destroy the US, by doing this, again. Could our country, or any country, handle another lockdown? Or even a partial lockdown? What is the scared and sick simply stayed home, without an "official lockdown." No customers or staff and a business would be forced to close.

    Keep our fingers crossed!
     
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    More cheery information:

    This is a look at all cause deaths in the US. I've combined data from a couple CDC databases.

    The "Unknown Cause" is calculated based on the total all cause deaths minus those who died from diseases I documented earlier today and Covid-19 deaths.

    The CDC estimated there have been 1,288,826 excess deaths since 2017.

    The total number of Covid deaths is 1,080,039 per this data set, and is close the current number, 1,086,197, on their main Covid Tracker.



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    I’m with you Viper. I don’t believe ANY stuff fed to me any more. I try to listen, them assess.

    But I DO love the China Uncensored channel.
     
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    Disinformation, Censorship, and Information Warfare in the 21st Century

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    By contrast, because censorship depends on and reinforces existing power structures, censors tend especially to target those who seek to hold power to account. And, because the advancement of human civilization is essentially one unending struggle to hold power to account, this censorship is inherently incompatible with human progress. Civilizations that engage in widespread censorship therefore tend to stagnate.

    ...

    Accordingly, because virtually all human thoughts and statements can be defined as misinformation, a prerogative to identify and censor misinformation is extraordinarily broad, depending entirely on the breadth of the definition of “misinformation” employed by the censor in any given instance. Because no particular “degrees” of misinformation can be defined, an official with a license to censor misinformation could censor virtually any statement at any time and justify their action, correctly, as having censored misinformation. In practice, because no man is an angel, this discretion inherently comes down to the biases, beliefs, loyalties, and self-interests of the censor.

    ...

    The most sophisticated regimes, such as China’s, have vast social media armies consisting of hundreds of thousands of employees who post to social media on a daily basis using VPNs, allowing them to conduct vast disinformation campaigns involving hundreds of thousands of posts in a very short timespan without ever resorting to automated bots in the traditional sense. Thus, Chinese disinformation campaigns are impossible to stop algorithmically, and even difficult to identify with absolute certainty. Perhaps for this reason, whistleblowers have reported that social media companies like Twitter have effectively given up on trying to police foreign bots—even while they pretend to have the issue under control for purposes of public relations.

    ...

    Owing to the seriousness with which they’ve studied the methods of information warfare, and perhaps to their long mastery of propaganda and linguistics for purposes of exercising domestic control, authoritarian regimes such as China’s appear to have mastered disinformation in the early 21st century to a degree with which Western national security officials can’t compete—similar to how the Nazis mastered the methods of 20th century disinformation before their democratic rivals.

    ...

    The best evidence that national security officials’ alarm about foreign disinformation is justified is, ironically, an example so egregious that they have yet to acknowledge it happened, seemingly out of embarrassment and fear of the political fallout: The lockdowns of spring 2020. These lockdowns weren’t part of any democratic country’s pandemic plan and had no precedent in the modern Western world; they appear to have been instigated by officials with strange connections to China based solely on China’s false claim that their lockdown was effective in controlling COVID in Wuhan, assisted in no small part by a vast propaganda campaign across legacy and social media platforms. It’s therefore essentially axiomatic that the lockdowns of spring 2020 were a form of foreign disinformation. The catastrophic harms that resulted from these lockdowns prove just how high the stakes in 21st century information warfare can be.

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    "Think Tanks" are notorious originators of disinformation. They have essence of credibility, as the members are often highly credentialed and seemingly very experienced, but produce information of a biased nature. "The Russian Hoax" originated with (possibly former) members of a Think Tank.

    You may have noticed "news sources" have of the past decade or more often been members of a Think Tanks. Lazy "news reporters" often use them for background information and collaborating information.
     
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    WHAT DID I TELL YOU ABOUT PELOSI’S STOCK TIP??
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    Beijing Crematories Are Working Overtime

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    A district crematory in Beijing has to “maintain cremation equipment” and normally accepts a maximum of 20 bodies daily from people who don’t have district residence certificates and have died in hospitals outside of the district, a notice posted by the crematory says.

    The Civil Affairs Bureau of Tongzhou District told Beijing Youth Daily on Dec. 22 that the district crematory has been overwhelmed due to an increase of bodies to be cremated.

    “In the past, the daily workload [of the Tongzhou Crematory] was about 40 corpses. Now employees have to work overtime to cremate 140 to 150 bodies every day.”

    Buy that stock ... WHILE IT’S HOT!


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    Justin Trudeau wishes you Happy Holidays


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    Chi Com Health Authority Will No Longer Publish Daily Coronavirus Case Numbers, Up to One Million New Cases a Day
    Despite the draconian measures used by the Chi Coms to control their citizens for years, China is bracing for a spike in cases with as many as one million new cases a day.

    In an effort to hide the truth from the world, China’s health authority announced that they would cease publishing daily Coronavirus case numbers.


    The Communist News Network (CNN) is reporting:


    China’s top health authority has announced that it has stopped publishing daily Covid-19 case numbers, as reports claimed that the true toll of the country’s ongoing outbreak is much worse than the official figures published by authorities.

    The National Health Commission (NHC) said Sunday that “relevant outbreak information” would instead be published by China’s CDC, a sub-department managed by the NHC. The decision to delegate its case counts to a lower authority comes as China experiences an unprecedented coronavirus wave following a drastic easing of restrictions.

    The statement did not say how often China’s CDC would publish its Covid reports. Traditionally, China’s CDC only publishes monthly digests for all infectious diseases regulated under Chinese law, ranging from seasonal flu to Hepatitis B and plague.

    Since China drastically eased its Covid restrictions earlier this month, there has been no clear data on the extent of the virus’ spread on the national level.

    China no longer officially tallies its total number of infections, after authorities shut down their nationwide network of PCR testing booths and said they would stop gathering data on asymptomatic cases. People in China are now using rapid antigen tests to detect infections and are under no obligation to report positive results.

    Health officials in China’s Zhejiang province, located just south of Shanghai, said Sunday they were seeing more than one million new Covid-19 cases a day. The province has a population of 64 million according to latest census data published in 2021. According to CNN calculations, it would indicate around 1,563 new daily infections per 100,000 people.

    The deputy chief of Zhejiang’s health commission, Yu Xinle, said the province’s current wave is expected to peak around New Year’s Day – with daily infection numbers reaching 2 million. which would amount to more than 3,000 new daily cases per 100,000 people – and last a week before declining.

    The 9-million-resident city of Qingdao in the northern Shandong province is also seeing around half a million new infections every day, the city’s health chief Bo Tao told journalists on Friday, adding that the peak is yet to come. According to CNN calculations, this represents 5,556 infections per 100,000 population.

    In the southern manufacturing hub of Dongguan, a city with a population of more than 10 million, health officials said Friday they are seeing between 250,000 and 350,000 new cases daily.

    “The peak of Covid infection is approaching … infection numbers are increasing at an accelerating rate in Dongguan, our health system and health workers are facing and unprecedented challenge and immense pressure,” the city’s health authority said in a statement.”

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    TWITTER RIGGED CHINESE CORONAVIRUS DEBATE
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    Twitter Files dump shows company SUPPRESSED debate and information from doctors and experts which clashed with Clown House - and suspended vaccine skeptic Alex Berenson at Sleepy, Creepy, Crazy, Perverted Uncle Joe’s request
    According to documents released on Monday, in the summer of 2021, The Demented One said social media companies were 'killing people' for allowing vaccine misinformation — and just a few hours later, Berenson's account was suspended.

    He was kicked off the platform the following month, and ultimately sued (and settled with) Twitter.

    As part of the legal process, Twitter was compelled to release internal communications, which showed how the Clown House pressured the Clown House to take action on Berenson.

    But The Demented One’s administration was apparently 'very angry' that Twitter had not done more to deplatform other accounts, and pressured executives to do more.

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    You guys are Alan Krumwiede. Check it out:

     
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    Good one. It’s funny how life imitates art sometimes.
     
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    In the movie Contagion the death rate was 25 - 30%.

    With covid the death rate is about 0.2%

    In the movie Contagion the vaccines might work.

    With covid the vaccines don't do anything except make people more likely to catch colds and viruses.

    Us guys are more like those who exposed the Thalidomide scandal.

    You will thank us one day and apologise.
     
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    You would hope so ... but I doubt it.

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    It also means a blissful lack of any obligation to reconcile any incongruous beliefs.

    E.g., we should kill all of the people who don’t get the shots for the greater good!
     
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    NEW STUDY: MERCK’S ANTIVIRAL DRUG MOLNUPIRAVIR DOESN’T REDUCE CHINESE CORONAVIRUS HOSPITAL ADMISSIONS OR DEATH IN HIGH RISK VAXXED PEOPLE
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    It Does Make You Feel Better Quicker
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    It Makes Lots Of $$$ For Merck

    (It made nearly $5 billion in sales for Merck in the first three quarters of 2022)
    Researchers found that hospitalizations or deaths were recorded in 105 (1 percent) of the 12,529 of the study participants who received Molnupiravir, versus 98 hospitalizations or deaths (1 percent) recorded in the 12,525 study participants who were given usual care.

    See:
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    https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/mercks-covid-19-antiviral-drug-doesnt-reduce-hospitalization-or-death-in-high-risk-vaccinated-people-study_4945301.html

     
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    YA THINK:
    US Government Mulls Coronavirus Restrictions For Travelers From China


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    The US government is considering imposing new Coronavirus restriction on travelers from China.

    The Chi Coms recently ended its Draconian ‘zero Covid’ policy following violent protests.

    According to reports, China is experiencing a new wave of Coronavirus infections.

    The US may impose new Coronavirus restrictions on travelers from China such as requiring a negative Chinese Coronavirus test upon arrival.


    Bloomberg News is reporting:

    The US is considering taking new coronavirus precautions for people traveling from China, which has seen a rapid rise in infections as officials lift Covid Zero restrictions.

    US officials said the government is concerned about the surge of cases in China, and has raised questions about the transparency of data the country is reporting about the spread of the virus. The officials requested anonymity to discuss internal thinking.

    Japan is now requiring a negative Covid-19 test upon arrival for travelers from China, while Malaysia has imposed new tracking and surveillance measures. The US is weighing similar steps, the officials said, as a way to prevent further spread.

    Discontent with Covid Zero sparked protests in China, leading authorities to move rapidly toward ending those policies and three years of self-isolation from the rest of the world. Yet the speed of those changes has seen infections surge.

    US officials said they were considering new travel precautions based on consultations with public health experts and international partners. They said the talks have been prompted in part by concerns over the lack of genomic sequencing data that could help identify the emergence of a new variant.”


    Of course, in the end, Sleepy, Creepy, Crazy, Perverted Uncle Joe will probably view such restrictions as:

    R*A*C*I*S*T !!

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    Life imitating art. One has to wonder if artists (writers) actually provide the seed for these nefarious agencies' agendas? If so help us all...cause the prospect is quite grim. Human imagination may be the most dangerous weapon of all.
     
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    I had this thought when I read the post that mentioned this new surge in cases in China.

    The problem is that people fly from China to numerous countries, infect people living there, and those people with fly around the world too. There would have to be a global lockdown, and it would only slow down transmission, but I am guessing, may suppress global immunity.

    China knows the more they harm the global economy, the more they MAY move up in the global economy, as least base on the data they produce.

    This map is from March 2020. Even at that point there was already at least 8 variants.

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