Is She embracing the control to make me happy or is She just being cruel?

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    Dude, what's your problem? You are trying to control her with your emotions and threats, and it's not the right thing to do.
     
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    You need to discuss these trust issues with your wife now.
    The dynamic of your relationship and where you each think you want it to go ought to also be high on your agenda.
    Hopefully you can reconcile your differences.

    However ... As far as relationships go
    If you do not have trust .. you have nothing

    .. and remaining in such a relationship especially one without children is just wasting time from both your lives.
     
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    i don’t agree that FLR automatically includes cuckolding, ours certainly doesn’t.

    To answer your questions
    No i don’t trust Her, She has cheated before.
    Yes i am jealous, because She doesn’t seem to want to spend time with me
    Yes the FLR was my idea, it’s only been 1 week!

    Every relationship has private problems, ours is no different, She knows that there are good reasons why Her not coming home will really upset me.

    But i agree with you that this is an FLR now and She is free to make all the decisions, it is not equal. But She knows that this decision will hurt me
     
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    Which thread did you read?? i have made no threats and i learned long ago that i can’t control Her
     
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    But that is life, you wanted FLR but maybe you are not ready for one, seems that she find it nice.
    Once women taste freedom they love it. Just beware you can love to be caged and submissive while staying in control of your fantasy, this is not an FLR, this is a false submissive fantasy.

    FLR is not in the advantage of an alpha male, you need to feel sub or to accept your fate. Cuck is part of it and il will be hard if your jealous.

    And if she adopt it so quickly is that she definitely loves FLR and the freedom she has with. According to my KH she can't stand a jealous man and she is free to go where she wants alone if she wants. I have not my word.

    It should be the same for you, she decide, you obey especially when it annoyed and bother you. Else it is not an FLR.
     
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    It is certainly humbling.
    Tonight is going to feel like an awful punishment to me, and unfair as i have done no wrong.

    But maybe this is what is needed to make me accept Her dominance.

    i know i can’t have my cake and eat it. i asked Her to take charge and She is,
     
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    Again, if she knows this is really bothering you then she will continue to do so. Play it cool. This is all done to get a desired response out of you and it’s working.

    She is meeting with her girlfriend telling her how much this is bothering you blah blah blah.

    On the outside show no signs that is it bothering you. Now on the inside it will be a different story. But you have to be strong enough to handle it.

    After she does not get the response she is looking for then she will not waste her efforts.

    Also, not to get into too much of your personal life. I think I read you two are married with without children? If so, be aware of your state laws in regards to children being born in a civil union with a different person not in the union.

    In NC, if a wife gets pregnant by someone that is not her husband, while married, the husband is the responsible for that child even though husband is not the biological father.
     
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    And in an accepted FLR or cuck life you breed the child of your bull, look unfair but it is aa way of life, if you don't want it, don't go for an FLR.
    in an other way I know some vanilla wife, pure genuine in appearance, devoted to their husband that has sex adventure and baby with lovers while their husband is not aware of.
    That is not that rare and there are cuck forum about this. On my side I prefer to know and be in FLR that being a cuck and everybody knows except me.
     
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    It sounds like you Are unsure of what you want also, you want her to take control, and she is, but you are still trying to top from the bottom, cuckolding is not always apart of a FLR, but being obedient is.
     
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    Sure, one you give the lead your path is to follow, obey and endure. Cuck may or maynot be part of it but you have not a word on it at the end.
     
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    Quit your fantasy bullshit. This is not how 99.9999999999% of relationships operate, not even FLRs, nor should they.
     
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    so tell me what is an FLR for you? If you don't obey she is not really in control and you manage the game instead of her. You are then a false sub.
    I don't says there is no discussion nor limit but the base of FLR is her lead.
     
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    Sometimes we can be so close to a problem, we just can’t see it. Our perspectives differ, and we are only getting one side of the story, but so far we know:
    1. You have trust issues with her. Right or wrong, doesn’t matter, you don’t really trust her.
    2. You understand that these issues are mostly yours, there is no reason to start a FLR when you don’t trust your wife, unless you are trying to fix your own demons by having her in charge.
    3. After being told this bothers you, she still wants to do it.

    All this leads to several conclusions about her that may be the case.
    1. She’s deliberately being an asshole and doesn’t like you anymore.
    2. She thinks you’re being a control freak and wants you to back off
    (By the way, just because you can list a bunch of reasons why you could drive her home instead doesn’t mean it is what she wants to do). Maybe it’s just fun. More importantly she doesn’t have to validate the pros vs cons of her just taking an Uber. Maybe forcing the issue is her way of drawing boundaries.
    3. She is not testing you, she’s testing herself. She already knows how you feel and will react, she’s testing her own resolve on whether she can follow through with her own needs and desires, without succumbing to yours.

    I’m not saying she isn’t cheating, I don’t even know her. I do know how some of the things you brought up would sound to any girl that I knew...a desperate attempt to control something you can’t. Giving reasons why she shouldn’t stay...you could drive her etc are not helpful. Ummm she knew could have you drive. It all adds up to a jealous guy and a wife that isn’t going to let it affect her anymore. She also cheated on you before so, ya know, ummm yeah I wouldn’t trust her, would say this is a deal breaker, and she needs to earn the trust back from that first, and lady...we ain’t there yet. There should be no overnight stays for someone you don’t trust. If she doesn’t accept your dealbreaker status on the matter, than it’s over. Deal —- breaker, if something is a priority to that extent you need to follow through with what you can live with (and yourself).
     
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    I won't have say it better, and in that case she maybe even don't stay with her friends for sex....
     
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    An FLR without trust is not an FLR! What you have is not an FLR, IMHO.
     
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    A relationship without trust is not a relationship.
     
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    Must be full trust, works both ways
     
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    We have kids but because i’m working this evening they are staying with grandparents. This is why the issue of Her staying out is so serious, 90% i would be home with the kids, on this rare occasion i am free to pick her up later but She still wants to get a taxi and stay out.
    Believe me, She knows how much i’m hurting and in the past when i have not cared She still did Her thing. It was easier when i didn’t care
    Thanks for the support though i am trying to be strong....it’s just one night! And She is the Boss now so i know i have to accept it. i just want Her to acknowledge how hard it is for me i suppose.
     
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    This is great, everything you wrote made sense and helped. Until the last paragraph.... exactly that - She had an affair and i don’t trust Her. She hasn’t worked hard enough to earn my trust and so She shouldn’t be staying over night. She knows how important it is, i can’t call it a deal breaker because i’m not going to divorce Her over it. But it is just opening old wounds that were so nearly heeled.
     
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    Whether it be vanilla, chastity, FLR, or cuckolding, the key is trust. If you don’t have it, you will feel used and miserable in the worst way imaginable. It is solely your decision if you want to live that way.
     
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    good point. well stated.
     
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    This is highly toxic. Time to reconsider the entire relationship.
     
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    The thread is over a year old with no replies
     
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