Turtling and Fallling Out - what do you do to prevent it?

Let you know in a week or so. Without a piercing or full belt yet, im hoping a urethral plug extending past the cage and into the body will work.

 

Try taking a Viagra tablet after each meal.

 

Like the little man Chrissy says, a urethral tube that's 2 to 3 cm longer than the cage might work for some, though it wont stop the most determined of escape artists.

Alternatively, using a locked chain around the waist to fix the top of the base ring to should do the job of holding it in place enough to prevent fall-out. It would certainly prevent pull-out as in the urethral tube instance.

 

Urethral insert attachment or piercings

 

Keptforher has 2 things that work for my guy. One is this security thingy that comes in different sizes that presses down on his penis. Be careful to pick one that doesn't cause any problems. He can't get out with that one in the tube. There are also the points of intrigue. You have to be extra careful to pick the right size with those, since if you don't it could cause him some real trouble.

Without either of those, my BF managed to pull out of the CB6000 only after a lot of work and trouble. Once he got hard, it was so uncomfortable for him with his hard penis pressing against the device he just said it wasn't worth it to pull out. I had to help him "deflate" a couple of times so he could even try to get back in. He did, eventually When I put in a points of intrigue size he could deal with, he manged to get out with a lot more work and more pain, but he got out, After I helped him "deflate" again, a couple of times, he could not get back in. He said part of what motivated him to give up was he was afraid of really hurting himself on the points, but he did make a long and honest effort to get back in. Finally, I unlocked him, put in the other security device and he couldn't get out. I had to try a all the sizes to see what waa best.

I agreed with him when he said it would be too much of a pain to walk around with the CB6000 even halfway off or to try to pull out and get back in. Still, I use either the points or the security device. I like the security device better than the points.

 

Keptforher has 2 things that work for my guy.

 

It won't let me edit it, so I have to keep doing this. I noticed there was a lot of wiggle room in the CB6000 between ball trap and cage thingy, even when the lock was in. I forget what my BF called it, but he said there had to be a little room, but he could make it less by using something he called a Carter pin or something like that. He did something to the other 2 pins in it to take the Carter pins and there isn't as much wiggle room as there was. He tried to pull out again and it took longer and it was harder to get out. When I asked him about taking out the Carter pins to make it like it was, he said another thing he could do was get something like a wire (he called it something else, but he drew a picture to show me what it was) I could run through the other 2 pins and he could put something on the wire where I could lock it, too.

lol, I like the idea of more than 1 lock on my property.

 

Lol
Cotter pins like bolts but no thread and a hole in the other end to the head I think is what your after.

However back to the op . I guess if you are smallish and maybe a tidge chubby then everything disappearing is very possible and I would thing almost impossible to stop .
It may not even be possible with a full belt as you come out of the tube. .

Xx Wendy

 

No urethral tube will work for a grower that shrinks and pulls out, unfortunately. If the balls come out, it's all over. I gave up on rings entirely because of my anatomy. Between my sack being high and tight, having one ball that is smaller than the other, and being big while erect, but small when I get cold or whatnot, nothing would stay on. I spent a lot of money trying. Piercing was the only option. I don't regret getting pierced, though.

 

I don't experience turtling to the degree you described (i.e. falling out of the device) but it is still significant enough to render any pressure-on-penis-shaft anti-pullout device ineffective (e.g. KSD-G3, "punishment pins" on MM device, etc...). In addition, when the penis retracts that way, it ends up filling at most half of the tube and, in the absence of lubricant, growing back to normal size can prove uncomfortable.
I've been searching for a solution that does not involve a PA. I've been experimenting with the "plain spout" and "retainer" combination from tetherproducts.com. I hook that to a metal rod shaped to lock along with the chastity device. I'm going to take a couple of photos and upload them to the gallery to give you an idea of what I am talking about...

 

The photos of my TetherSpout-based anti-pullout contraptions are at:
http://www.chastitymansion.com/forums/index.php?gallery/albums/tetherspout-based-anti-pullout.1247/

I have made 3 such prototypes. The third one isn't pictured in the gallery at this time because it is currently locked on me.

 

How about designing a new device that has a frenum piercing rod that hold the tip in place toward the bottom of the cage (head), and then attaches to the base ring as the device is locked. This way, there is minimal pressure on the frenum (just enough to prevent the dreaded turtle) but not so much as to cause migration. This would also make pullout IMPOSSIBLE for even the normal sized guys!!! And I think most guys would not mind a frenum piercing.

If you consider this, please contact me. Id love to assist as I really need a custom device designed like this!

 

they just looks like one of my cages that's got a tube thingy in them. cept they am plastic and a lot longer than my one.

 

I assume you are referring to a cage with a plain urethral tube.
This is rather different: the TetherSpout insert is composed of a pin (hollow to allow urination) and a retainer ring that fits around it . The pin is inserted first, then the retainer ring is slipped in sideways. Finally, the pin is pulled back through the ring. The urethra actually has a ring of inelastic ligaments about 1/2 inch in from the meatus, and once the retainer ring is turned 90 degrees to the urethra axis, it no longer fits through, thereby preventing the pin from being pulled out. The pin can then be used to restrain the penis from the front.

 

I was unlocked long enough to allow me to take some pictures of the third prototype. See gallery.

 

Please Mr. @zorglub does it hurt ?

 

Oh no Jemina. You just feel a tug if the penis retracts, for instance when you bend forward (like to pick up something from the floor).
Of course, if the cage is too long, the constant tug does get bothersome.

You do have to pick the correct size for the retaining ring so it slips on without pain and later holds the penis securely.
The best way to measure yourself for that is to use urethral sounds.
Note that the smallest retainer available requires a 8.7mm diameter urethral opening. Below that, you'd need some stretching before you could use these devices.

 

@zorglub 8.7mm is awful big. my little tube thing is only 6mm and that feel like its huge in me.