Bio-specific: Determining An Individual's Lock Up Duration

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    Much debate and opinion surrounds the question of "How long should I lock him?" Rather than seeking the advice of others--which may or may not work for you--why not let his body tell you directly?

    Here is an easy way to get that done:

    Step 1 Lock him up for one week.
    Step 2 Unlock him and masturbate him for exactly 60 seconds.

    If he does NOT cum, lock him back up and wait another week and repeat the test. He was obviously not locked long enough. Repeat this weekly process until he finally cums within 60 seconds.

    If he DOES cum, then you have a good idea how long you should make him wait between releases.

    This approach has several advantages:

    A: It's flexible. You can reduce the timing from 60 seconds to 30 seconds, for example, if you want him to develop a hair trigger.
    B: He won't want to miss his chance to cum, so he'll be encouraged to let go as quickly as he can.
    C: Many keyholders will appreciate having more time to devote to their own pleasure instead of masturbating their chaste partner until her arm is ready to fall off.
    D: You can teach him to cum quickly so he'll be less likely to bother you for additional stimulation.
    E: You are letting his own body give you a good idea of his chastity durations. This eliminates your concern with milkings and other maintenance issues. No longer worry about what others are doing. His body will take care of this for you.

    Jason
     
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    Very scientific, clinical even.
    Thank you for the suggestion.

    x




     
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    This has a lot of milage if you really think about it.
    Would it be possible to make your sub suffer from what is virtually premature ejeculation . .
    It may also be possible even if you were a solo player.
    I both circumstances reducing the time say from first touching your willy to climaxing .
    So what time to start with and would 1min be possible from start to finish omg.
    Xx wendy
     
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    My wife has a much simpler method. When a girlfriend asked "When will you unlock her?" she replied

    "When I want to"

    The lockup isn't about me; it's about her.

    In the last five years it's been as little as three days and as long as 350 days. Currently 7 months.
     
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    We get it. Yours is the most pure chastity. The rest of us are just pretenders. Does she tell you when to go to the bathroom, too? If there is no interaction between the two partners, I guess your "do whatever she says" approach is a good one. In my case, I presume most of the members of this forum have some sort of interaction with their partners. My note was for them.

    For those of you who are the bestest, most chastest, superest, super deluxe, maximum chaste coolio's......I'd go with Kali.

    Does your wife at least give you extra points for sanctimony?

    Jason

    PS, Yeah, I know the moderators will now have to step in.......I am sure they are quite tired of the "I am more chaste than you" comments......as well as the rest of us who don't aspire to be the "this sub aspires to please Her because i am dirt" guy.
     
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    Hahaa here here jasonpatalonis! Well said!
     
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    Actually, the only one sanctimonious here is you. You can put all sorts of energy into figuring out ways to make this as much of a game as possible or you can just get on with your life and live with it. It's not about being cool, or being "dirt" (your kink, not mine), it's simply that your way isn't the only way. If you don't want comments on it, don't post it where other people can read it.

    Some of you put so much energy into figuring out ways to play games its amazing that you get anything else done in your lives. Of course, since it's the Internet, at least 90% of what appears is bullshit. Given your overly antagonistic response we can presume that the "do it and enjoy your life" approach touches a nerve. I guess if you need to build rule and structure into something that you are imagining or that you are trying to talk a partner into, is the way you live things out, such a response is to be expected.

    You also seem confused about what you are actually writing; you provide detailed instructions and then attack me based on an assumption that my life is micro-managed when that is actually what you are suggesting with your detailed level instructions. While there are people whose kinks (like you) revolve around that level of management, mot people just incorporate things like this into their day-to-day lives and focus on living, not minutia.

    You could have ignored my response and moved on, but you seem to have decided that attacking me for my opinion was a better choice. It's great that you have a partner who is willing to play your game for you. And that you have given her detailed instructions about how it should be played. This, of course, has nothing to do with any real interaction; giving someone an instruction list doesn't build any sort of bond between two people. It does, in fact, put up more separation because no actual interaction and bonding is necessary. actual interaction requires constant communication and emotional bonding.

    And for someone with 2 posts to comment on the ongoing behavior of the the forum moderators usually indicates it's a troll account or that they have been previously banned under another name. Which one are you? (FYI, that's a rhetorical question; I really don't care)
     
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    Thank you Jessica's Boy, and to others who have voiced their support or interest. I also thank Kali for voicing her opinion.

    A bump is a boost!

    On a different note, the "60 second" test has been done twice on me now. I am facing week #3. This is not my record--it's just over six weeks--but my wife and I have decided to see what my body really says based on the criteria we set.

    Wendygirl is right in that the arbitrary nature of choosing 60 seconds can really mess with one's head.

    Jason
     
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    As a follow up, it FINALLY happened. Last weekend I was experiencing my 60 second stroking by my wife and I finally came.....28 seconds! I lost official count, but I estimate that this program was exactly 8 weeks in duration.

    My wife thinks this is hysterical.

    The proverbial "watch what you wish for" curse is certainly applying here. She now won't even give me the sixty seconds until we get to about six weeks now.....

    Jason
     
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    28 secinds start to finish omg.
    I used to have a gf who was besotted with this guy so she got him into bed only to find that if she even did not touch his willy he would climax as he got between her legs done and reach for the tissues in about 20 sec . She gave him several goes over a couple of weeks but he never got inside her fully. !
    Xx wendy
     
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    Just for the record I like reading people's very specific scenarios . I love getting into their kinks what really turns them on so when people say what do you want to do I turn it around and say what you want to facilitate their fetish .
    Xx wendy
     
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    its no good for me having all that 60 second thingy cos im milked. But if i did have it i don't think i wud ever be able to do it that quick.
     
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    Wendy,

    You are right. The implications for my ability to have intercourse are quite clear. My wife hasn't said it, but I think her bemused response is because she realizes that this process will render me unable to have intercourse with her.

    She more or less does not allow me intercourse any more. I am sure if I insisted as her husband she'd let me. But now that I am apparently being conditioned for premature ejaculation, there may no longer be a choice in the matter.

    Jason
     
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    So this is then very deep and sort of scary and yet very interesting.
    So I wonder if you could be conditioned to climax through masturbation to become PE but if you made love to your Mistress would you be able to last longer.??
    Xx wendy
     
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    That is a good question Wendy. I believe that with careful conditioning anything is possible.

    My own feeling and fear is that I am now virtually a premature ejaculator. Since my next 60 seconds stroking session by her won't be for another month and a half, I am guessing I will cum very quickly next time too.

    The emotional hard part for me when she was stroking me was that I WANTED to cum quickly because I had already waited for 8 weeks. I knew that I was only going to get one minute.....I strongly preferred prematurely ejaculating to waiting another week with full glands.
     
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    I think my Maitresse might like this, it gets the process over and out of the way quickly, so She can go on to more pleasant activities for Her.. like torturing me... :)
     
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    I can relate. I find that whenever Mistress Suzan is involved with my release, I cannot last as long as when I am required to masturbate myself in front of her or her mentor/GF. Both agree it proves that I am no longer adequate to satisfy a woman through intercourse, and that is a beneficial result of chastity!
    dickinbraces
     
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    I can see I am in good company DS. Thank you for the comment.
     
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    I really like this idea. What I like it for is the conditioning me to have a hair trigger. I already don't last long during intercourse (maybe 5 minutes?). I would love for my tiny cock to become completely useless to women by only lasting 30 seconds.
     
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    JD,
    Thanks for the post. It is definately training me for the hair trigger.

    Yesterday, I was laying down for my weekly 60 second session. It's been about 4 weeks since my last cumming. Sure enough, I let go in about 25 seconds.

    The discussion of intercourse is now completely out of the question. Imagine a chaste man who can go a month or more without cumming, but lets go in meager seconds......

    All part of my wife's design? Who knows.

    Jason
     
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    I wonder how quickly you would learn to cum if your time kept getting reduced. Can you imagine not being able to last more than 5 or 10 seconds?
     
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    As it was, I was trying to hold back.....I can plainly see this conditioning leading to utter premature ejaculation.

    It's the perfect crime: I would like to hold back, but if I do, it could be another month before I get to cum. So I can't really fight it.
     
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    My KH has promised we shall try the monthly race for 30 seconds starting soon. If I manage 30 seconds, she will reduce the next time by 5 seconds. I'll report back with the results. Naturally they will be ruined orgasms.
     
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    Anyone got any kind of diary or notes on how long they have be training to cum in under a minute.
    I have only cum about 4 times since I did my foreskin piercing. All very painful especially afterwards. This has not helped with either trying to cum in the number of attempts or the speed . Even useing my favourite porn which is black bulls with cuckold husbands .
    I have a problem with leaking and was thinking of taking my infibulation ring out and going on a period of training admitted pleasurable fun but seeing if I can get to 1 minute or less .
    Xx Wendy
     
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    Well, the routine is rather well set now. I am officially a "Minuit Man".

    Since the beginning of this thread to now, it's been stunning, sad, amusing, factual, etc. etc......that my wife can easily take me from totally limp to cumming and back to limp well under sixty seconds. She uses an iPhone as a timer.

    Obviously, intercourse is neither attempted nor allowed.

    Jason
     
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