Perfecting the Ball Gap

Most people can fit into a 45mm ring, but almost everyone starts with a ring that is around 50mm. Once you get used to it I am almost 100% sure you can downsize. Given the Cheery Keeper is a modular system, I would just order a ring or two and go from there.

 

Moved to 44mm ring with 2-5 degree downward tilt - I almost have a small cage with short head length and smaller head lock so I stay put no movement

 

I wearing a knock off of a holy trainer and last week orders the real thing. Wish I'd seen the cherry keeper sooner.

 

I've found it more to be an issue with ball gap versus diameter of the ring. Mine slipped out the other day at work, no clue how. I could not get it back in at work for nothing. Had to wait until I got home, unlocked, slipped it back in and locked back up.

 

Lazlo is an expert on cherrykeeper s

 

One ring to big or you need a small ball gap
I move from 45 mm ring to 44mm ring and had 5 degree cage and ring connection on the ring angle down to reduce the ball gap -

if you can get more than finger tip in your ballgap it too big - balls shrink and swell

if you can’t get more than first knuckle of your finger the ring too big

I would go for month or 2 no issues then my right would make break - since I made the new ring purchase no issues - I exercise ring spin bike - move things for living in and out of the car -

 

I have over 16 years in various cages - I’m the end. Cherrykeeper has been the best -
You just to look make notes - many ring options with the cherry keeper

 

Your should have no space when soft - normally your get a cage about 1/4 in smaller than your soft stage

 

Happy to help. Rodeo Cowboy is too kind. But he is right in that I have done a TON of experimenting--because it's so fun and easy with the Cherry Keeper concept.

I say KEEP the cage. But experiment with the rings. The angle (downward, expressed as a "-" angle) matters a lot I am finding out. A little more downward angle, reduces the ball gap a little....and this leaves less room for one of your testes to escape. It also makes the cage a little less conspicuous in your clothes, if that is a bonus for you.

Don't be afraid to try the TALL oval shape. This narrows things on the side, but leaves room at the very bottom of things (the "taint" area) for peeing and the like.

For me, I've found the more exaggerated "tall oval" shape and more downward angle help things a lot.

Keep in mind, we are all different, so no one can tell you what is best.

I own about 8 different rings now.....each one I get (I buy for a purpose) is just a little more and more comfy.

Hang in there....no pun intended.

Laz

 

LockedPom,

I recommend you think of more than one option and order several at the same time. I apologize if I am not being sensitive to your budget, but at about $24 each, it is better to order several things at once.

Don't be afraid to try the exaggerated oval......I forget dimensions.....it's like 50 tall and 44 wide....

 

I am amazed at how much even small dimensional changes radically alter the feel of the device.

 

Oh, typical appears to be between 1/4 and 3/8 inches. 6.35mm and 9.5mm.

With those ergo rings the ball gap is variable. Smaller closer to the top and wider near the bottom. This is why you probably are finding that a tough number to find.

Even with flat rings, the ball gap, so to speak, varies. While the gap on one plane may be constant, it varies on another depending on the diameter of the cage opening and the diameter of the ring.

About all you can ascertain from the nominal measure of the gap is that a larger number most likely has more space than a smaller number.

I wish there was a definitive answer, but I don't think one exists.

 

You are on the right track. Thus, a "wide oval" shape may be most suitable for you. Too many variables to know from afar.

Another tactic that may help: Note the stated diameter of the ring you might purchase. Draw that sized circle on a piece of paper. Then draw the "shaft diameter" within it. You will have to concentric circles. Now you can visualize where the ball may slip through.

 

Thanks for sharing your wisdom - you know your way around a cage it seems

I've tried to simplify the ball gap issue by offering the measurement from the cage to the ring on a diagonal, so it doesn't matter what size ring you have or what size cage, so you can compare numbers a little bit better. The angle does definitely make a difference, and I've found that going larger on the ring and angling the ring toward the cage to close the gap is my personal preference.

As for "typical gap" - I'd have to say 10-14mm is an average range for CK's, but that's small customers and big customers too. The material of the CK does flex a bit, so be mindful of that - that is, I believe, one of the reasons it's more comfortable - it has just a bit of give to it. I did tests with CKs in metal and they are RIGID and not as comfortable, not to mention heavy!

 

3/8" or 10mm seems to work for majority but everyone is different. Also depends on round ring versus ergonomic ring shapes.