Covid-19 and Life

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    According to NATURE, one of the absolute leading scientific journals in the world:

    More than one (1) in ten (10) people experience LONG COVID after contracting the coronavirus.

    “Surveys of thousands of people have revealed an extensive list of symptoms, such as fatigue, dry cough, shortness of breath, headaches and muscle aches. A team led by Athena Akrami, a neuroscientist at University College London who has long COVID, found 205 symptoms in a study of more than 3,500 people1. By month 6, the most common were “fatigue, post-exertional malaise, and cognitive dysfunction”. These symptoms fluctuate, and people often go through phases of feeling better before relapsing2.”

    Get vaccinated - you don’t want to get long covid.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01511-z

    Don’t take chances with your health or the health of your loved ones and coworkers. Get vaccinated and become part of the solution. Don’t let the dark corners of the Internet, YouTube videos, and anti-VAXXers convince you otherwise.
     
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    It's a shame the vaccine doesn't stop you getting covid or long covid.
     
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    You are spreading lies and causing harm. This is misleading. As the owner of this site you actually have a responsibility to curate information and not propagate false narratives.
     
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    The Real Dr. Death, aka, Dr. Doom, aka Dr. Quack, aka, Dr. Flip-Flop, aka,
    Dr. Phony Fauci
    • Fauci is the highest-paid federal employee in the U.S., and 68% of his $437,000 a year salary comes from bioweapons research;
    • Instead of safeguarding public health, Dr. Anthony Fauci turned the National Institutes of Health into an incubator for pharmaceutical products, and essentially sold the entire country to the drug industry;
    • Fauci has had a hand in creating the vaccine gold rush. In 2000, he met with Bill Gates, who asked to partner with the NIH in an agreement to vaccinate the world with a battery of new vaccines. In 2009, this agreement was rebranded as “The Decade of Vaccines,” the objective of which was to implement mandatory vaccinations for every adult and child on the planet by the year 2020;
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    • One of the darkest stains on Fauci’s career, aside from his role in the COVID pandemic, was his handling of the HIV epidemic. Suppressing the use of repurposed drugs, Fauci zeroed in on AZT, a toxic drug that has killed an estimated 300,000 AIDS patients; and
    • The similarities between the AZT scandal and what's happening today with the COVID jab and remdesivir are striking. Again, Fauci has suppressed all treatments using inexpensive and nontoxic drugs. (e.g., Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin). U.S. taxpayers have paid for research, while drug companies have raked in the profits, all while having zero legal liability for injuries and deaths!
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    See:
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    I thought you were against censorship?
     
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    OH .... SO SORRY!
    SUM-TING-WONG WITH JAB
    As by looks of things, there appears to be a Worldwide Vaccine Failure! From Singapore to the Netherlands to Iceland to Vermont. And coming soon to the entire northern half of the United States...

    According to Dr. Fauci, this
    is not how it was supposed to go:

    Deaths hitting new highs in Singapore (85% of the population fully vaccinated - NOT adults, the entire population):
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    (Source: Bloomberg)

    And now ... A new lockdown in the Netherlands (70% fully vaccinated):

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    And in Iceland (76% fully vaccinated):
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    As Vermont - the most vaccinated American state (71% fully vaccinated) smashes highs for cases:
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    (Source: Bloomberg)
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    BUT DON’T WORRY ... THE BOOSTERS WILL FIX EVERYTHING!

    *** JUST ASK DR. FAUCI ***
     
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    Dr. Fauci Admits Vaccines Did Not Work as Advertised and that Vaccinated Are in Great Danger Today!
    It should be clear by now that the pandemic will not end until Dr. Fauci is removed and replaced. For over a year Dr. Fauci has blocked successful treatments and over-promised on ineffective vaccines . BUT ... at least Big Pharma made record profits.

    On Friday Dr. Fauci The New York Slimes podcast that the vaccines did NOT work as advertised and that Americans are in danger due to their waning immunity.

    As a solution to this problem Dr. Fauci is of course promoting more shots.
    When will this end? .... NEVER until you eventually die from a compromised immune system or an adverse reaction to the genetic experiment.

    Yahoo.com reported:

    “On Nov. 12, White House COVID adviser Anthony Fauci, MD, went on The New York Times’ podcast The Daily to discuss the current state of the coronavirus in the U.S. According to Fauci, officials are now starting to see some waning immunity against both infection and hospitalization several months after initial vaccination. The infectious disease expert pointed toward incoming data from Israel, which he noted tends to be about a month to a month and a half ahead of us in terms of the outbreak.

    “They are seeing a waning of immunity not only against infection but against hospitalization and to some extent death, which is starting to now involve all age groups. It isn’t just the elderly,” Fauci said. “It’s waning to the point that you’re seeing more and more people getting breakthrough infections, and more and more of those people who are getting breakthrough infections are winding up in the hospital.”

    As a result of these findings, Fauci warned that vaccinated people should get their booster shot, as it might actually be more important than health officials first realized. “If one looks back at this, one can say, do you know, it isn’t as if a booster is a bonus, but a booster might actually be an essential part of the primary regimen that people should have,” he said on The Daily.

    Fauci went on to say, “I think … that the boosting is gonna be an absolutely essential component of our response, not a bonus, not a luxury, but an absolute essential part of the program.”

    *** BOOSTERS FOR ALL .... FOREVER!!! ***
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    I wish I had this sharp of humor:

    "But the woke deplore the idea that someone else refuses to mindlessly goose step right along side them into the Happy Vax Room, the CRT Classroom, the Woke Greenhouse, the FEMA camp, and finally the soy ovens."

    Soy ovens! Hilarious. Yet, hilarious because of the plausibility.
     
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    Yes, the essence of the totalitarian left: think and act like we tell you. Otherwise we have to kill you.

    Notice how the left--which used the term "herd immunity" as the holy grail in terms of returning to norma--"If we can just get to, say, 70%........" no longer talks about it.

    Notice how acquired immunity somehow doesn't seem to count.
     
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    Long LIVE THE BOOSTERS. And boost the boosters!
     
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    The more people like you push, the more people are questioning it.
     
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    My post was addressed to you in particular and not anyone else. Specifically your failure to mention or acknowledge the fact that vaccines help reduce the risk of long Covid.
     
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    I'm not in the habit of repeating things I don't believe to be true, just because others think they are true.
     
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    People like you parrot all the misinformation they give you. This didn't stand the test of time well.

    You have been repeating misinformation for the last 18 months, and now it is just normal to you.

    You think you are on the right "side" but you are not, everything you are doing is immoral and unethical. And history will show that to be the case.

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    #791 L-u-c-y, Nov 15, 2021
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    NHS doctors begin to speak out...

    Why have we doctors been silent?

    By Lucie Wilk November 15, 2021

    AS an NHS hospital doctor, I have had a front-row seat as the drama of the coronavirus pandemic has unfolded. It has been a year and a half of confusion, frustration and anger for me as I’ve watched our profession drawn into complicity with what I anticipate will be regarded as one of the most egregious public health disasters in history.

    I have watched as ‘the science’ has been presented on the national stage flanked by Union Jack flags as an unassailable truth. For something so apparently inviolable, it seems to shift and change disconcertingly from week to week, and for those of us looking beneath the pomp to the plain data, we see the rather unexciting (and unchanging) truth: the novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2, as it turns out, has a much lower infection fatality rate than early predictions. It is less deadly than the seasonal flu in children. The Office for National Statistics has reported the mean age of a Covid-attributed death in the UK to be 80.3 years, slightly older than deaths from other causes (78.2 years over the comparable time period).

    What has been most upsetting for me has been the unquestioning compliance from the medical community as increasingly draconian, non-evidence-based and destructive virus control measures have been implemented. Some of the overt corruption, financial conflict of interests and politicisation has been laid bare in editorials in prominent medical journals such as the BMJ. But the vast majority of doctors have had no interest in asking questions or looking further.

    My concern over our professional passivity turned to alarm as our compliance required us to support the roll-out of an experimental vaccine to a trusting population.

    Contrary to the basic tenets of evidence-based medicine, pronouncing an experimental medical intervention ‘safe and effective’ now does not seem to require any peer-reviewed evidence of safety or clinically meaningful efficacy. The vaccines have not been shown in clinical trials to reduce transmission, hospitalisation or death. The phase 3 trials are not over and the safety data is not complete; the earliest trials will run into 2023.

    The consent form for the Covid-19 vaccine does not disclose its status as an unlicensed experimental product. The risks remain largely unknown, although it is becoming clear that the vaccine has resulted in death or injury in a rising number of healthy people. A growing number of vaccine-induced syndromes are being recognised, including immune thrombotic thrombocytopaenia, myocarditis and menstrual irregularities, among many others being published in the literature. At the time of writing, there have been more than 380,000 reports, 1.2million injuries and 1,700 fatalities submitted under the MHRA Yellow Card scheme.

    The Prime Minister himself has communicated the latest evidence, that two doses of the vaccine do not stop one contracting the virus, nor do they stop person-to-person transmission, they merely reduce the severity of symptoms. Despite this, it is clear the public are being subjected to a relentless media campaign of shame and coercion, that they must take this experimental product ‘for the greater good’ lest they be viewed as selfish cowards. A vaccine passport is now likely to be rolled out under ‘Plan B’, which proposes to return unlawfully usurped fundamental human rights and freedoms to only the vaccinated. Workers in the care home sector have had their livelihoods tethered to their compliance with the vaccine mandates, and a recent announcement confirms that this will soon include NHS employees. Not only is there no scientific basis for these mandates, these coercive actions breach the Nuremberg Code, as does the unprecedented lack of animal safety data for a novel medical product. A betrayal of the Nuremberg Code constitutes a crime against humanity.

    It does not end there. The campaign marches on, and now includes the vaccination of children against a disease that has a statistically negligible chance of harming them. In the world of evidence-based medicine we doctors must weigh risks and benefits, we must ensure the risk of harm is far exceeded by the potential for protection or cure. In this case, with no real risk to healthy children from the infection, any harm is utterly unjustifiable. And the risk of harm is very real and measurable. Vaccine-related myocarditis is now a recognised injury, the risk inversely proportionate to age. Although rare, myocarditis can be fatal, and fatality is more common in the younger population. For reasons that have nothing to do with health, and despite the JCVI advisory board concluding that the health benefits do not outweigh the risks to children, the government is advising that we administer a medicine that carries a risk of serious injury to children who are healthy and who have no significant risk from the disease it purports to protect them against.

    Despite all this, and despite our training to look at scientific literature and data with a critical eye, the silence from the medical community in the UK has been deafening. Yet we are the ones who should be shouting all of this from the rooftops. This is a duty of care and an oath we have forgotten.

    It is typically those of us most conditioned by the expectations of society, utterly obedient and deferent to authority, who gain entry to medicine. One can see the path: we were good, compliant children and then good, compliant students. Now we are good, compliant doctors. I’m beginning to understand that goodness is measured in a different way, and obedience is not a virtue.

    Obedience is learned through fear, threat and intimidation; it is in fact trauma programming and achieved through small control gestures when we were young and helpless. Now we are adults but still operating under these childhood programmes of beliefs and fears. We still feel helpless and beholden to a higher authority. We still submit to an authoritative decree even when it overrides our inherent moral compass.

    The horrors of the classic Milgram experiment demonstrated that we live in a deeply traumatised culture, and the same conditioning, in my view, has shaped the medical community and its silence.

    Even on the occasion when my counter-narrative evidence cannot be denied by a colleague, the usual response is: ‘It’s coming from the government; our hands are tied.’ But the truth is that most of the time doctors don’t want to see the evidence; their subconscious has prevented them seeing that the parent-like authorities of government, Sage and the MHRA, upon which we project a childlike trust, might be misguided, corrupted or dishonest.

    And so we comment to each other on all the changes we are witnessing months into the vaccine roll-out: the unseasonal surge in hospital admissions, the post-jab autoimmune conditions and coagulation disorders, the numbers of ‘double-jabbed’ patients admitted with severe Covid infection, the numbers of lives ruined by lockdown and other Covid control policies. I challenge any doctor to deny that all of this simply feels wrong. To avoid this uncomfortable, authentic, human feeling – important information that should be acted upon – we will reach for something rote. ‘Anecdote is not evidence’ and ‘association is not causation’ will be the justification for carrying on, no questions asked, even though most of the damaging control measures implemented from on high were not based on any evidence at all. Meanwhile, an already struggling NHS has been damaged beyond repair by many of these policies. We are overwhelmed by the demand that we cannot meet, and the complexity of the crisis feels far beyond just one hospital Trust. The locus of responsibility to investigate remains above us and we wait for someone with more authority to come round and make sense of it.

    And as we remain silent, the destruction continues.

    Most of us went into medicine for the right reasons: to help the vulnerable, to reduce suffering. I know my colleagues are kind and well-intentioned and that their faith in our unelected public health policymakers is the result of a lifetime of conditioning. For those of us who have looked at the data and see the truth, I understand the fear: the risk of non-conformity is immense; careers, reputations and livelihoods are at stake. I recognise an even larger threat: a threat to our chosen profession, our life purpose, the possibility that we have been following a false god in our honest intentions to help the ill. We are at a difficult crossroads, but the choice for me is clear.

    Although I am not on the front line in the ‘fight’ against coronavirus, and have had nothing to do with the vaccine campaign, I feel complicit in this public deception. I can no longer hide within a system that has proved itself to be weak-willed and unwilling to stand against the irrevocable erosion of inalienable human rights and freedoms in the name of public health safety. It is past the time for us to grow up, stand up and speak out.

    Lucie Wilk is an NHS hospital doctor.
    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/why-have-we-doctors-been-silent/
     
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    Kudos to Lucie Wilk for clearly and boldly saying what many of us believe--and increasingly know--to be true.

    Her citation of the Milgram's Experiment is so apt. The human tendency to "follow the experts" (the "science") is astonishingly strong. I myself have used this tendency to my financial advantage over the years. My profession has allowed me to present myself as the unquestioned expert. So I got away with some sloppy "science" all too often. Fortunately, it's not in the health field, so the only harm that was done is that people purchased less rigorous analysis from me than they should have. I never lied to clients. But I was able to simply assert my beliefs instead of proving things way more than was appropriate.

    If anyone wants to know the data tricks being played on you by our "experts", the quintessential book on the topic is called The Visual Display of Quantitative Information by Edward Tufte.

    https://www.amazon.com/Visual-Display-Quantitative-Information/dp/1930824130
     
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    UK Study Reveals 99.995% of Children And Young People SURVIVE Covid-19; Only Two-in-A-Million Chance to Be Fatal!
    A study out of the UK (that has received little attention in the MSM - like the NY Slimes -has confirmed once again that children and young people have effectively ZERO risk of death after contracting the Chinese Coronavirus.

    The massive study determined that an overwhelming 99.995% of children and young people in England with a positive covid test over the first year of the pandemic SURVIVED the virus, which translates to a microscopic 2/1,000,000 mortality rate (99.9998% recovery) for people under 25 when adjusted for population.

    Astonishingly, out of the over 12 million children and young people who live in the UK, just 25 passed away due to complications directly related to the China Virus that has locked down the entire world.

    The analysis was collaborated on by several prestigious medical institutions across the UK, including NHS England, the Imperial College of London, Public Health England, and the Bristol Royal Hospital for Children. When the team of researchers looked at data from the UK’s National Child Mortality Database they found that a total of 3105 children and young people died from all causes in the first year of the pandemic – 61 of which occurred in individuals who tested positive for Covid-19.

    Researchers then reviewed each one of the 61 deaths with a positive test to differentiate which ones died directly relating to their Covid infection, from the ones who died of an alternative cause and just coincidentally tested positive.

    The study also found that the general mortality rate for children and young people overall is 125x HIGHER than their chance of dying from the Chinese Coronavirus.

    Hmmm ... I wonder if the CDC / FDA /Pfizer read this when they came up with the bright ($$$$) idea to vaccinate 6 month old babies?

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    It's true genocide. And the world watches.
     
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    In a real pandemic no one would even remotely consider firing any doctor or nurse.
     
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    You think you're on the side of science, but you have been repeating this mans medical misinformation since the beginning.

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    Gibraltar, with a vaccination rate of almost 100%, is cancelling Christmas festivities due to the increase in COVID cases.

    Pretty hard pinning this on the unvaxxed when there aren’t any.
     
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    You really are a Nimrod. Most of us have gotten back to normal because of the vaccines.

    Public health is not a political question.

    Do you even interact with other people out there in the world? I would say a good 25% of the US population was extremely fearful of the virus, and was a big driver behind public policy.

    The vaccines gave these people, many of them at risk, a comfort factor to get back to normal.

    The vaccines have been proven safe and effective.

    Conspiracy mongering and alternative facts, this seams more about you and your own political paranoia.

    It takes a lot of work to turn a good thing into a bad thing.

    Luckily most people will just see you as a wingnut imprisoned by false propaganda and misleading information.

    You do sprinkle in a kernel of truth here and there, but your message is actually a hopeless one, namely that there is no medical protection against the virus for anyone whatsoever.

    This message is so false and yet you cling to it for reasons that are entirely irrational.
     
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    What it’s like to die from Covid-19

    “I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy”: Doctors describe what their sickest coronavirus patients endure.


    Since the coronavirus attacks the lungs, it hampers the intake of oxygen. People with worsening Covid-19 typically show up in the emergency room because they are having trouble breathing.

    As their lungs deteriorate further, they have a harder and harder time getting enough oxygen with each breath, meaning they need to breathe faster and faster — up from an average of about 14 times per minute to 30 or 40. Such gasping can bring about a very real sense of panic.

    Imagine trying to breathe through a very narrow straw, says Jess Mandel, chief of pulmonary, critical care, and sleep medicine at UC San Diego Health. “You can do that for 15 to 20 seconds, but try doing it for two hours.” Or for days or weeks.

    Patients struggling through low oxygen levels like this have told Kenneth Remy, an assistant professor of critical care medicine at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis, that it feels like a band across their chest or that their lungs are on fire. Or like a thousand bees stinging them inside their chest. Others might have thick secretions in their lungs that make it feel like they are trying to breathe through muck. Many people say it feels like they’re being smothered.

    The ordeal is so taxing that many wish for death. “You hear the patients say, ‘I just want to die because this is so excruciating,’” Remy says. “That’s what this virus does.”

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    ^^^^^ any normal person would choose vaccination over the possibility of dying from asphyxiation in about 20 days time.

    https://www.vox.com/2021/2/20/22280817/covid-19-deaths-us-nursing-home-icu-ventilator
     
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    I would rather die a painful death than live in your world.
     
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