Covid-19 and Life

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    We said. I am guessing Lucy would agree as well. I think you both are describing two sides to the same coin: The jabs don't work......for preventing covid. But they sure as heck seem to work wonderfully causing all sorts of other medical mayhem.
     
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    Luckily the virus wont become bad anymore. It has shot its powder and now is changing to a usual seasonal cov like all the others that are known.
    The strategy of a virus is to survive. Like every good parasite.
    Being highly infective and showing a high lethality is not in its mind. It wants to spread really wide and fast. By showing up as omicron out of the void which is very infective and nonlethal helps it to achieve this. It will just stay widely spread.

    And for the mutations it doesnt matter if it is manmade or a natural virus. The mutationrate is the same.
    I once read a polnish stidy about two other Coronaviruses that evolved from one original type in the medieval age in Europe and since then had a parallel appearance. No big killers.
     
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    I generally agree with Ms @L-u-c-y. I just think she’s being a bit hyper intense on this. And that is clouding her ability to say things the way she normally would. I say this as she’s extremely intelligent. And I say it not to be mean as her passion is so cool.

    I guess I’m saying I think the way she’s said things like this would be even more effective for those who don’t agree with us is if she took a few second and worded things a tiny bit differently.

    That said, that’s just my opinion. I’m probably splitting hairs as this whole mess has done so much damage that the CCP must be thrilled. We know they have a goal to reduce their population. We know folks like Bill Gates and George Soros also have similar goals. But yet they publicly claim to be for helping others. It’s frightening.

    I guess all I can say is what I’ve said all along. I just want the truth. And agree, disagree, or even partly agree with what she posts, Ms Lucy is doing an amazing job putting facts out. This thread alone has done a massive amount. The sad things is most people have become so closed minded that if they don’t agree they won’t listen to something that even hints as having an alternative position. Th awfully we have some folks here who aren’t that way. And that imho is great and what fosters real discussions that in turn brings out the truth.
     
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    Tom,

    Your candor and thoughtfulness is appreciated. I really think you hit the nail on the head: Lucy has helped provide an avenue for the truth to discussed.

    Long live champions of free speech!
     
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    IS THIS THE ADMISSION OF THE CHINESE CORONAVIRUS
    “PLOT”

    Dive into the 2015 statement that not only appears to admit to the premeditated plan behind the Chinese Coronavirus but also unveiled four crimes, shrouded in the guise of public health initiatives.

    • In an October 2023 lecture, David E. Martin, Ph.D., detailed how we can know that SARS-CoV-2 is a manmade bioweapon that has been in the works for years and the crimes associated its its “roll-out”;
    • The virus called “coronavirus” was first described in 1965. Two years later, the U.S. and U.K. launched an exchange program where healthy British military personnel were infected with coronavirus pathogens from the U.S. as part of the U.S. biological weapons program;
    • In 1992, Ralph Baric at University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, took a pathogen that used to infect the gut and lungs and altered it with a chimera to make it infect the heart, causing cardiomyopathy. This research was part of the efforts to produce an HIV vaccine;
    • In November 2000, Pfizer patented its first spike protein vaccine. Between 2000 and 2019, vaccine trials using this technology proved it was lethal, yet in the summer of 2020, the clinical trials for the SARS-CoV-2 shots went straight into human trials;
    • mRNA spike protein was publicly described as a bioweapon 18 years ago. In 2005, at a conference hosted by DARPA and The Mitre Corporation, the mRNA spike protein was hailed as a “biological warfare-enabling technology,” i.e., a biological warfare agent; and
    • During a March 27, 2015, forum on Medical and Public Health Preparedness for Catastrophic Events, Daszak, who you will recall is the President of “EcoHealth Alliance” noted that unless an infectious disease crisis is at an emergency threshold, it tends to be ignored, stating:

    “To sustain the funding base beyond the crisis, we need to increase public understanding of the need for MCMs (medical countermeasures) such as a pan-influenza or pan-coronavirus vaccine," Daszak said, adding:

    "A key driver is the media, and the economics follow the hype. We need to use that hype to our advantage to get to the real issues. Investors will respond if they see profit at the end of the process."

    So, what are the “crimes” according to Martin? In summary, they are:

    • "To sustain the funding base beyond the crisis ..." — Daszak is not speaking of expanding or benefiting public health here. He’s also not referring to an actual health crisis that was taking place when the comment was made.

    No, according to Martin, "the crisis was that there was a reduction in funding of biological weapons programs sponsored by the World Health Organization. The crisis was not a health crisis. It was a funding crisis for the people who were running out of money for their bioweapons programs. Those are two crimes."

    • "A key driver is the media, and the economics will follow the hype." — This, according to Martin, is an admission of two additional crimes. "Hype" refers to psychological terror. In other words, funding will follow provided the psychological terror is great enough, and he admits the media will be used to push that fear porn.

    The second crime is economic conspiracy, because "economics that follow hype is not informed consent," Martin notes. "That's not willing buyer, willing seller, informed of all the facts." Using psychological terror to secure funding implies "an intent to defraud."

    Martin explains: "Under Crown Law we call it ‘fraudulent conveyance’ when you don't inform the counterparty of the risks associated with a contract ... Why is this important?

    The reason why fraudulent conveyance is such an important principle in the law, is ... [because] the fraud-perpetrating party is required under the law to not just recompense the damage.

    Their legal obligation is to return the damaged party to their pre-damaged state. It's not, ‘We’re going to give you a couple bucks for your pain and suffering. No, you are legally required to return the condition to the pre-damage state."

    So, to reiterate, financial compensation is not the legal standard when it comes to fraudulent conveyance. The party that engaged in the fraud is legally required to make the defrauded whole again. And why is THAT important? Because "we’re not even asking for what we should ask for," Martin says.

    Is there a dollar amount that can cure the myocarditis you suffered after the shot? Or the turbo cancer that’s killing your mother? Or the blood clots that killed your father? "If we followed the law, we would actually recommend, not a financial compensation, we would recommend a return to the pre-damaged state," Martin says.

    (You will note that just within the last week or so, Texas Attorney General, Ken Paxton, has filed suit against both Moderna and Pfi$er for fraud associated with their “vaccines” under the Texas Consumer Fraud Statutes.)

    "We need to use that hype to our advantage to get to the real issues." — What are "the real issues"? To get investors to respond with funding, which they will do if they can "see profit at the end of the process." In other words, investors will open their pocketbooks if they can confirm that psychological terror makes people line up to receive an injection.


    See:
    https://media.mercola.com/ImageServer/Public/2023/December/PDF/exposing-covid-19-crimes-pdf.pdf

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/MMXfRHgFybqK/



     
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    By far the most heinous crime against humanity. Happened(ing) right under everyone’s nose.
     
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    The Esteemed Little Elf Who Believes “I Am the Science’ Explains Why He No Longer Practices the Catholic Faith

    Hint-Hint: He Also Believes He’s God

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    In a BBC interview conducted by Katy Kay at the grounds of Georgetown University, The Esteemed Little Elf, who is the former director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and current is “Distinguished University Professor” at Georgetown University, (a Catholic University), has shared his personal perspective on faith and his decision to step away from traditional religious practice.

    In the below clip The Elf pointed out Dahlgren Chapel, a significant landmark in his life where he and his wife Christine were married, prompting Kay to delve deeper into his current relationship with the church.

    “That’s where you were married?” Kay asked.

    “Yeah. Yeah,” he responded with a note of nostalgia.

    “It’s beautiful,” added Kay, to which The Elf simply agreed.

    However, when the conversation turned to his current religious practices, The Elf’s response was straightforward: “No.”

    “You don’t practice anymore?” Kay pressed.

    “No,” The Elf confirmed.

    Kay, seeking deeper understanding, probed further. “Why?”

    “Uhh, a number of complicated reasons,” said The Elf.

    “Go on. We have a whole corridor,” Kay insisted.

    According to The Elf, his “own personal ethics” are “enough” to keep him going on the right path. IN SHORT HE BELIEVES HE IS GOD.

    First of all, I think my own personal ethics on life are—I think—enough to keep me going on the right path. And I think that there are enough negative aspects about the organizational church that you’re very well aware of. I’m not against it.”

    “I identify myself as a Catholic; I was raised, I was baptized, I was confirmed, I was married in the church. My children were baptized in the church. But, as far as practicing it, it seems almost like a pro forma thing that I don’t really need to do.”

    Watch:
    https://twitter.com/LauraPowellEsq/status/1733594715847864818

    No doubt, some of the “complicated reasons:” First of all, becoming a messiah figure for a competing religion makes it kind of AWKWARD. Plus, as the literal incarnation of The Science, I’m sure he just thinks it would be a bad look for him. And ... like ALL other Democraps, the Marxist progressive pursuit political power is The Elf’s true religion!


     
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    I never paused to think of it this way. Indeed! Zero. Point. Zero. Regret
     
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    Top epidemiologist and plandemic hero Dr. Harvey Risch interview. A sampling :

    “They did the exact opposite of all established public health protocols for managing a respiratory virus pandemic.
    Some of the people, like Tom Engleseby, who’s been involved in the pandemic now, wrote the exact opposite in a major paper 2006, talking about how to manage an influenza pandemic. He said that lockdowns should not be used, closing airports should not be used, masks are useless, social distancing is useless, and so on. You manage the severity of the illness, but not the fact of the illness. And that was all correct. That was all standard health technology of 2006.
    Nothing changed in public health. What changed is, who was telling the public health infrastructure what to do, and terrorizing the public health infrastructure into carrying this all out.“


    What we’ve lived through has been a fifth-generation (as they say) propaganda war from the U.S. security state that took command of the pandemic on day five after the emergency in 2020. It became a propaganda WAR. Not just against the American people and people around the world, it became a propaganda war against the public health establishment itself.
    (So) you had people like (former CDC Director) Rochelle Walensky being told that, if she didn’t comply with the security state requirements of what she had to say, and what her policies were, that she would be responsible for killing millions of people. And unfortunately she believed that.

    https://rumble.com/v3zz4b1-progress...ry-null-and-guest-dr.-harvey-risch-9.05..html
     
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    Maybe he had enough from all those fat child molesting clerics. These might be the "complicated reasons".

    And in two weeks, again, some billions of people will forget, what they did to mankind.
     
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    Here's another little factoid. Essentially proving the point that the experimental shot was in fact an experiment that failed. Any other biologic with such flaws would be immediately halted and governments around the world would investigate the companies that pushed them. Not with these shots. Why is that?

    So 25% of the folks who took the vaccines have damaged their immune system. This is from Cambridge University, not some Podunk institute from Katmandu. This is in addition to the blood clots, myocarditis, and aa host of other issues with the vax.

    I have learned that my wife is usually right, whether it's to keep my dick locked up, or to refuse the jab even if I'd be fired (worked for a DOJ contractor). Tell me why we should ever listen to them again?

    One in four who had Pfizer Covid jabs experienced unintended immune response (telegraph.co.uk)
     
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    This is a very sad part of all this. I, along with millions of others, no longer trust most institutions. Ten years ago I would have taken a CDC or NIH recommendation to heart. Today? I will assume the opposite. I no longer trust doctors. EVERY decision they recommend, I do my own evaluation and I decided. (much to their annoyance)
     
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    I feel with you.
     
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    “... MUSIC TO MY EARS ...”

    Former Italian Health Minister Under Investigation for Murder for Concealing Chinese Coronavirus “Vaccine” Deaths
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    Former Italian Health Minister Roberto Speranza is under investigation for homicide after emails reveal that from the very start of the vaccinations, he knew the shots were killing people and gave orders to local health authorities to conceal deaths and serious side effects in order to reassure Italian citizens of their safety and to not jeopardize the vaccination campaign,” reported InfoWars contributor Greg Reese in a viral X post shared by Alex Jones.

    He knew the shots were killing people and gave orders to local health authorities to conceal deaths and serious side effects.”


    Watch:
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    (An English translation of a German broadcast of the story.)

    See:
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    One down, a thousand more to go ....

     
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    Regardless of whether Covid was such a thing. In 2020 I picked up some form of "virus" which changed everything.

    I suddenly couldn't smell or taste. And instead there was an occasional smell of burnt something.Nasty bin smells followed within a few months. Everything was tasteless except for this strange vile smell.. I had developed a cough that would not go away within days of catching the virus. I had the most awful sinus problems and felt like I had a vice across my entire face. I kept forgetting things as if I was losing my memory. At first I had absolutely no idea what was going on. Within the first few days of catching this virus I had an extremely high fever that lasted for five days. One minute boiling hot and sweating profusely, the next freezing and shivering as if I was in the north pole naked. My whole body was hurting as if somebody had beaten me to a pulp. I was as weak as a kitten. I had no strength. Following this I never really got better. December 2023 I have what they call flareups. I cough and cough and cough.. Still no taste or smell except for that foul bin smell. My favourite perfume smells of absolutely nothing. I have what is called fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue. I don't go around saying I have long Covid. But I cannot hold a conversation for more than a few minutes without choking. Insomnia every night and if I do fall asleep for a short period of time I have nightmares. And I don't talk about this because it's frightening but I'm 60+ and I started bleeding downstairs.



    I caught the "flu" over a year ago.

    And five ''colds'' since 2020.
     
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    Are you vaxxed? If so, there are protocols that may help. Hit me up if so.
     
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    I was advised to NOT get vaxxed.
    Soon as My partner was vaxxed that night in bed,laying next to him I had an attack...Then again the next time he was vaxxed.
    Im being treated as Disabled.
     
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    I don't claim that shedding is real, but in your case, it sure sounds possible. Have you ever heard of it. Here's one article about vaccine shedding from partner affecting a women's menstrual systems. If shedding is real, there are things you can do. I don't claim to be an expert or evangelist.

    COVID-19 vaccines, irregular periods and spike protein shedding | Nebraska Medicine Omaha, NE
     
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