Satisfying methods for concluding play without orgasm?

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    Prior to chastity play, an orgasm marked the conclusion of a session. Without that marker, it can be difficult to discover a satisfying endpoint.

    We are looking for ways to conclude that feel logical, satisfying, collective, team building, and/or less cruel. We want to walk away with no one feeling sour. What methods do you use?

    With pegging, we’ve tried negotiated the end of play by her choosing how many more thrusts I have left to enjoy — and I can grind away between thrusts. After the last thrust, she counts down before pulling out.

    With sensory deprivation, we have an amount of time in mind for when I’ll get out and often, I’m in for longer than I’d like.

    We’ve used timers for other types of play.

    I think I’m going to request that we try concluding a session with “verbal orgasms” — were I’m told to express how I feel about her and reaffirm my love and dedication to her. She can, of course, do the same.



    Please share your methods or ideas.
     
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    Subs have no right to feel sour. If a sub is whiny it will be met with punishment. But a great question though.
     
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    What a load of nonsense. Building a scene is a partnership — especially in a healthy relationship. But great fantasy on your part.
     
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    Subs get punished for being too needy, so why not whiny. I tend to agree that your not fantasizing.
     
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    Who said anything about subs? A relationship is still a partnership.
     
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    Misread, no orgasms for either. If it's pegging, fisting or torture she usually wants to smoke and have a drink after a time. She'll use me as a footstool for half an hour. I'm not expected to to speak unless spoken to during this but love and intimacy don't need to be spoken about at times like this. I've only ever been fisted by My One after all so emotions are already running pretty deep without words. I'll usually get invited back onto the couch and we're out of role and back to silly romance stuff.
     
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    I'm satisfied when my wife has orgasmed at least once and is lying relaxed in my arms.
     
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    Thanks for your response. I’m talking about her being done for the evening — given her all, ready to go to bed. We are trying to end where nobody feels disappointed or stretched too thin.

    We are trying to legitimately do this. That means negotiating feelings.
     
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    Sometimes my wife doesn’t want to orgasm. She’s more of a service top.
     
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    Your fantasizing if you think your equal to woman power.
     
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    Go away. You’re perspective isn’t applicable to the OP.
     
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    It’s over when my wife determines it’s over. She’ll say things like “I’m done with you now’” or “that’s enough for now. Go calm yourself down.” She’s in charge so there is never any hard feelings from me. I always want more but I accept her authority and honestly I love it when I am desperately horny and she tells me no. That’s when I know her authority over me is real and it makes me feel deeply submissive to her.
     
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    Since you have posted your question in the FLR sub, it is reasonable for people to assume that she is in control. This may be the source of the confusion.

    In our case, she is done when she is done.
     
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    Most of our playtime ends when my Wife has an orgasm or two, if it’s pegging or a handjob teasing session, she usually just tells me something along the lines of “ok that’s enough fun for you”.
    If she’s not going to orgasm from pegging me, she’ll sometimes be very generous and ask if I’ve had enough or if I need more, other times she’ll let me know she’s done and it’s time to lick her to orgasm instead.
    No matter what, she decides when play time is over, and of course being deprived of orgasms always leaves me wanting or hoping for more. But that’s part of being her mostly chaste Subby I suppose.
     
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    When orgasms are off the table, for both of us, then the new problem of knowing when to stop is a genuine issue.

    We stay away from the edge when making love and we both seem to conclude, around the same time, that if we continue any longer then we'll get too close, and that leads to a little more snuggling and kissing.

    I know that's not really an answer since it's just "you'll know when you know".
     
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    Sme here
     
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    I think you’re 100% right on the first point, but FLR doesn’t necessarily mean the man is a second-class citizen. She can just be good at decision-making/planning. She can still want those both parties to be happy with those choices.
     
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    No, this is a totally honest perspective. It’s reflective of my relationship. We want to keep the plates spinning, but we also want intimacy and friendship with one another. Having an understanding makes the transition from sex to sitting on the couch in our pjs easier.

    Would you say that your sex drive is higher, lower, or the same as your spouse? We are trying to sync up sex drives and there’s a large disparity.

    Going this route, hopefully, gives me the attention I crave but in sprinkles that are easier for her to dole out. It should helps us avoid building to one big weekly experience that can be derailed with a phonecall or mood swing, which puts pressure on both of us and makes a lot of hard work feel pointless. We can be a lot more flexible this way.
     
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    I had the following to say in a thread on pegging. It's not for everyone but does touch on the natural change to romance and bonding after pain-play or role-play perhaps with no orgasms during. Usually she will orgasm that same night but it's not necessary to the profound experience of the scene in itself...

    "I have briefly enjoyed a kind of lovemaking pleasure when she has started off with normal sized dildos, about my size if I wasn't in chastity. She sees this as strictly warm-up time and if she senses I'm enjoying it too much she upsizes to one of the punishment dildos which I can only enjoy in a masochistic way no matter how long we do it. I think maybe she has a deep seated fear about a male enjoying anal or just likes to see me squirm and moan. The sessions usually end with her cuddling me while I'm shaking from adrenaline and actual shock. This is a very special and intimate moment that I would not experience if I wasn't dating a sadist. Sometimes I can feel overwhelming feelings of love and bonding after pain sessions and I quickly forget that she went for a few more thrusts AFTER I safe-worded which is fine because I agree to that treatment."
     
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    And now we can pretend like you had your satisfaction/orgasm, so we can end this beautiful moment... unfortunately everything comes to end... enjoy your post orgasm bliss :)

    Or... I would like it even in this rubbing on your face - bully way but it doesnt sound like that sweet love maybe you want, but its fun and cruel.

    Haha I got my orgasm and you didnt, haha... now we will stop haha... hmmm why so sad? are you frustrated that we played so long and i will not let you cum? That's your problem, I don't have that problem :D :D :D
    ... and stop.


    I would like both and much more creative ways, loving, cruel, funny, ... doesnt matter.
     
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    We can negotiate cruel play, but even if — as the recipient — I’m fine with it, inhabiting that role may not feel good to her. I think assuming that the dominant’s pleasure is always derived from the sub suffering casts her in a very one-dimensional light.
     
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    I dont assume anything ... I am just giving my examples that came to my mind... maybe it works for you, maybe not... . Maybe someone else here will be inspired...

    I would totally want to hear those.
    And I would totally want to hear some loving and nurturing and caring stuff too sometimes.. but these playfully cruel talks are more fun :D
     
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    FLR is anything the participants wish. It does not require chastity, humiliation, BDSM, discipline, cross dressing, denial, pegging, or spiky boots (damn). In fact a FLR can resemble a pretty traditional relationship. Or not. The only assumption is; she leads to some degree.
     
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