Ideas for Popularizing Male Chastity

Gosh this is a hard one .... a lot of ideas that come to mind make my mind drift in ways ... that is not productive .... I think whatever the promotion of this comes down to having women understand that enforced chastity is required by men. The problem is the fantasy of physical chastity is the reality that most women expect of men on the intimacy front.

As an example ... a guys view on domination is usually radically different then a woman's end view. The big question is how to converge the two into one ....

Just because you spun the start of the discussion the way you did .... given the Selective Service will be including women in the draft ... maybe it should evolve into a conscripted service, where women are the officers and the men are the non-officers .... (there you go .... enjoy that food for thought ....)

 

here is a funny idea. A Chinese game show where there are couples and the couple that last the longest where the male ware a chasity belt wins the cash prize, what do people think.

 

I meet so many couples doing my job and I often just sit there, thinking 'what a dick'. I would just love to tell the women to lock up their mens cocks and make them beg for forgiveness for being sucks to them!
If only some women knew the REAL power of their sex.

 

Why Chinese? But game show could go on a long time with not a lot happening except a stalemate.....

 

Not too sure how you'd market it, maybe....
"Is your husband a dick sometimes.....? Does he talk down to you in front of people and friends?......have you just spent 2 hours making yourself pretty for him....? And all you get is a wam bam thank you mam!
Well no more.....introducing the latest in cock control.....
Control the cock, control the mind xx

 

You could get the more vanilla types to go in on it saying it can help increase foreplay so he focuses on her more in order to be released so they can get down to business...

 

I had another thought ... call it the Educational Act of 20xx ... since young men's grades have fallen behind it has to be due "alternative activities". Why get ADHD pills, when something simpler and less damaging to the health is around the corner ... with this "device" you can guarantee a serious bump up in your male childs high school and later college grades. (and take it from there) ....

 

OK, I have put on my 'serious' hat, with my 'devils advocate' lapel badge and my pedants-r-us t shirt. I have a few thoughts I want to add to the discussion.

Unfortunately I think the original idea is fatally flawed. While we have 'seen the light' and have taken on the Male Chastity lifestyle (or female chastity, but CM seems to cater more for the male) and while many of us live in a range of versions of an FLR, I do not see this to be a sign that a switch in gender power is imminent. In fact I would suggest that we are as far away from a return to a Matriarchy as we have ever been.

While it is true that many Women do not fully understand the power that their sex gives them I still don't see them wanting to implement male chastity as a way of fixing their idiot brute husbands/boyfriends.

My reasoning goes like this.

• It is well documented that women in western society are paid much less than their male counterparts, even when they are more highly educated and experienced. Also the vast majority of top business jobs and politics are held by men.
• Recent cases of misogynistic attacks on social media of females who have become known in the mainstream media has been brutal and intense. In the UK a woman dared to suggest that one of the banknotes should have a female from history on it instead of a male, a female games journalist is attacked for daring to have an opinion about games and in Gamergate a female games developer is attacked unbelievably harshly and extensively.
• In the six months I have been wearing a Holy Trainer and my Wife has been growing in confidence about her role as my Keyholder I have become increasingly aware that I am one of the lucky ones. Over and over again I have read posts from guys who want to do this but their wives and girlfriends want nothing to do with it. Responses have ranged from ewwww, to you are a freak, to actually leaving the relationship altogether. Granted many of the men are their own worst enemies with the methods they use to try and convince their wives of the benefits, but even so the balance seems to be more say no than yes.

That is just a few ideas off of the top of my head as to why I do not think there will be a revolution any time soon.

 

@Jasmic68 I think we have a weird divergent thing happening (or better yet polarization). I think the easy access to always available and free pornography has made traditional PIV sex go from the "it thing" to "whatever". If you look at the effects of boys from the age 10 onwards being bath'ed in it, the effects on women from 18-35 are starting to show. If you stop and think about it, current access came about full out in 2000, so you had 10 year old kids who were shown this now being 26 and if you give it another 5-10 years you will have a generational sample.

Given the marriage rate is now low-to mid 20's% for 20-35 and using the european studies with gay marriage (for it personally) that shows it decouples heterosexual desire for it by an additional 4-6% average drop, we could see it go below 20% in the short term, and would only be inflected upon the wealthy and college educated with long-term jobs.

So without the normalcy (or defined view of it) of marriage in partnership, which reflects the coming together of two people who are willing to compromise and work together as the evolution of friendship (which means respect) and sexual compatibility. That means one or both sides in the sexes have checked out. I would call that to be the guys in society.

As early as 2004 Naomi Watts in one of her articles stated that guys she interviewed stated after the end of a club/rave night instead of hooking up, there was a large population of guys just went home and "jacked-off". When she asked why, they women were too much work and had to much baggage that it didn't make it worth it at all. So what you have seen as a silent response from women, is the dressing and acting more like the guys favorite porn stars etc, which can be degrading to alot of them, which means since they are giving up their hopes/dreams there is a cost ... and the death spiral starts.

Now ... if you take the societal spin where girl power is pushing forward and women are gaining more power and access, guys are feeling threatened. So what do guys do ... simple .. fight or flight in the worst possible ways. As most people probably don't remember their history lessons, the reason why you want guys engaged in productive activities such as work, marriages etc, is that it helps focus them in good ways. Without it they drift and become destructive fast .... the problem is in the focus for equality, folks have become so hyper-focused on the small details like pay ratios and number of women in boards etc, that they miss the big picture that equality means nothing if there is no respect and caring for both sexes.

As men don't understand the fear that a woman feels when she is the only person in a train terminal late at night, women don't understand how hard hitting the sex drive is in guys (especially from 12-16 to early 30's. This last point came to my attention while on my travels I was talking to a women who went through hormone therapy and the doctor got it wrong, and she stated that was the worst 30 days of her life, as she never felt anything like that in her life.

 

Now this is a proper debate! Thank you @tegelad for some fascinating and thought provoking ideas.

I was an early up taker of the Internet and what was one of the first things I did? Collect porn! It made my sex life pale in comparison. All the women were fabulous and where my wife hated giving oral sex these porn stars were quite literally gagging for it. I was in heaven when I discovered porn.md, the search engine of my dreams, and it was this that started my journey to modifying my penis (which then instigated my journey into chastity.)

As you quite correctly point out we now have a generation who think that sex is like it is in porn movies. I have helped out with Duke of Edingburgh award expeditions (a youth camp skills and development scheme) and have heard kids of 14 and 15 openly talking about anal sex and other sex acts that were considered niche and extreme when I first started discovering sex.

I am totally sure that men are becoming desensitized both physically and emotionally by porn. I know I was. I could masturbate to an orgasm in less than a minute but when it came to having sex with my Wife I was hopeless. I either came really quick or not at all. I would have to fantasize some porn scenario to get anywhere. Chastity has completely cured me of this. I recently watched some porn as an experiment and it had no effect on me at all.

I find the idea that men are attacking women as part of a fight or flight response fascinating. It does ring true, as some of the misogynistic attitudes are hard to understand. But then my Wife has always been the major earner and career person in our relationship, and I have always been fine with this. When I told work colleagues that I was quitting my job and moving to Germany to be with my Wife one guy told me that she should give up her job and move back to England. I told him that she earned more than double what I did, so that was idiotic. He honestly couldn't see that was the obvious thing to do, he still thought she should give up her job.

With regards to the woman you met are you saying she had no sex drive for a month, or the overtly ridiculous sex drive of a male for a month? I know for an absolute fact I think about sex way more than my Wife does. It would be an interesting experiment to do that on purpose so that women understood us better, and perhaps felt a bit sorry for us!

 

@Jasmic68 the women stated it went into hyperdrive and beyond. She stated she thought and felt about sex several times a minute, and having sex abated it some (for an hour or so), but right after it came right back just as hard as before. She was honest and open and stated she thought what guys stated was utter bullshit, and after felt really really guilty (I guess her husband had a higher sex drive then her). She stated when the med's went down it was a very happy day, but she did state she was happy to bring her desire up a notch.

Once you go down the porn rabbit hole, especially that young, it has to be a pretty severe event for a guy to bounce out of it. It is interesting that folks in the US keep pounding on how teenage pregnancy has gone down and they aren't sure why. They claim abstinence and sex education are the primary drivers; however, I highly doubt it ... Couple that if they are trained long and well enough on it, erectile events occur, or else PIV sex just doesn't feel as good as the masturbation event. So after a few times ... they say 'meh ... and move on ...

I know women really don't need us they tolerate us , but I have no idea what kind of backlash will happen. Maybe one of the more enlightened ones in our group (the ladies) could hypothesis. If you are into really dark humor and from a perspective as a thought exercise, I can't imagine the distraught that a traditional woman would feel in the following situation. She goes to college becomes super successful, gets a fantastic job, starts work and starts getting ready to move on to the next point in her life (which is super awesome). Then she desires to have a relationship , start a family, and do all that good stuff ..... and bammo ... 80-90% of population are smacked up on porn and detached/desensitized ....

That IMO is going to happen in the next couple of generations and the question will come down to what will the ladies do ....

The crux of the problem is the male ego is far more sensitive then a woman's heart; and it is only because the majority of the guys can't handle their emotions at all .....

 

@tegelad its funny isn't it, we grow up thinking of sex constantly and think of it as normal. A woman is given the sex drive of a male and can't stand it, and is relieved when it subsides!

Last night my Wife was bored. Nothing to do with me, just one of those days when she couldn't think about what to do. I was sat there thinking, well, we could always go upstairs, take our clothes off, have a shower then let our imagination run wild. It didn't occur to my Wife at all and I knew better than to suggest it. We ended up watching utter rubbish on the Telly and she went to bed in an ok mood but not exactly happy. I could have easily given her an hour or two of fun.

In all of my life I have only known one woman who had a higher sex drive than the guys she dated. She destroyed one of my mates, she wanted sex at least three times a night. All our other work colleagues thought he was lucky, but when one of them told him that he actually burst into tears! Two weeks he lasted before he had to admit defeat. The 'I have a higher sex drive than my wife/girlfriend is very common in this forum.

My escape from porn was literally through discovering chastity. It has increased my Wife's libido (though obviously still not up to my level!) and made watching porn redundant. I don't miss it.

 

In good and bad ways I was popular at University, but one thing that sticks out was there was a very forward Swedish woman who walked on us talking about consequences .... her response was priceless ... she grabbed her current guy at the time (which I found out later was a 2 month relationship) ... and stated ... I have no problem draining this American pony .... I had to laugh ... but I said hey ... I am guy that loves redheads and brunettes so sorry I can't play the game ....

This goes into the topic though ... women if given the safety and love and caring can be as or more responsive then men; however, they aren't treated as such .. hence the issues.

I so chuckle I had another friend, who was "closed minded" ... who stated I can't stand X girl because she is so wet, I like them "tight" ... I kept thinking you poor stupid guy .... tight usually means apprehension ... wet/loose means she is into you .... but that is why I think God is the ultimate jokester .... he programs our thoughts on women like that and gives us another reality. Another example is peak sex drive in guys of 18-21 and peak drive in the early 30's for women .... and yet allowed the programming to skew for men to prefer younger ....

 

Hello All.
I say bring discussion about this "new couples behind-closed-door phenomena" known as "enforced male chastity through the use of a male chastity device" to several mainstream women's publications which like to see themselves as the type of mags which like to push the envelope such as Cosmopolitan. My God they always have very provocative headlines on the cover teasing sexual techniques to better please a man or themselves. Surely one of the companies which manufacture devices would be willing to reach out to give the magazine a juicy new concept to discuss to get the advertisement out there, perhaps the maker of the Lori's devices, the Mature Metal devices or even the Miller CB devices. The article would have to discuss the benefits of chastity for women and how orgasm denial effects a man. Frank Q&A with couples who live the lifestyle to varying degrees should be included so readers could see how earth shaking and relationship changing enforced male chastity and male orgasm denial can be. Also interviews with men gushing with joy about how being locked has made their woman the Sun in their universe once again and interviews with women who thought they had lost their man to porn, ESPN and selfish wham-bam-thank you maam sex were were overjoyed by the results of introducing a male chastity device to their relationships would be needed. Certainly the article would include a mention of the various types of devices on the market and the rough cost of each as well. There is so much potential here. All of these mags always discreetly include sex aid advertisements hidden among the articles...why couldnt some of the manufacturers band together to try to get small titillating ads in the mags? I think this could go as mainstream as Viagra if done right. Oh well. Those are my thoughts. Just dont make it pornographic.

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