Great threads here all and a great resource. I would like to leverage the crowd knowledge and experience here with some questions regarding the tradeoff I need to make. I am considering either the jailbird or the queens keep as an upgrade from my well worn cb6000s. I am wanting to ensure security, longer wear comfort and also discretion. My keyholder likes the look of the QK but I am worried it is more bulky and may be hard to conceal, the bump, under jeans or office work pants? I know tube length will have an impact on this overall but wanted to also ask the group here about their experiences with the jailbird or the QK being a more discreet device when worn under male clothes? Any and all input, advice greatly appreciated. mitzi
Hi @mitzi welcome to the mansion. I would like to add my opinion, I have recently ordered the Jailbird in favour of the QK. The main reason being the QK is that little bit wider at the base of the cage. After reading many reviews here and other forums and blogs, this extra width does sometimes impede on hygiene. I do like the openess of the JB. That's just my opinion and others may have differing ideas and opinions. Regards Sonic chaste
The jailbird can have more curve because the curve can start closer to the back of the cage. The jailbird is the easiest to keep clean.
I have to agree, I am a proud wearer of a QK and it´s perfect for me, no problems wearing it under clothes or so and I can have it on for weeks and months. But, I think the Jailbird is easier to keep clean when you clean it your self wearing it in shower. I have to take my QK of once a week to clean it, with the Jailbird I don´t think I have to do it so often. But the QK is nicer to look at!!!
Have you considered MM's Pet Trap? Photos 2 and 3 on their site show one with a very steep downward curve.
I find the flat bar of the qk is often painful. I can wear the jb without knowing it's there. So while I really like the look of the qk better, I wear the jb.
I have both the Jail Bird and the Queens Keep, and use MM's double ring with either. Both are quite easy to stay clean without removing it for me. I've worn the Jail Bird for over 6 months at a time without removing it, and am now in the Queen's Keep for 9 months solid, with its security screw sealed with Loctitie. I actually like the bit of extra weight the bar provides on the Queens Keep. Both are very expertly crafted chastity devices that I find are very comfortable to wear long term.